Scotto: RJ was in trade talks for BI

[RoteSchroder]

I was always taught to never half ass a job, so lets full ass this stupid plan

Bring me the 9th pick, and trading for KD. Maximum chaos!

KD's already in decline, may possibly even only have 1 year of all-star play left, and he's a terrible fit. You don't want Ingram, Scottie or KD running around chasing guards.

Save the assets and wait for the Minny situation to blow up, then get Anthony Edwards (or something similar to this scenario). Let other teams squander their assets so that they can't compete for the next real game changer.

[Scase]

I was always taught to never half ass a job, so lets full ass this stupid plan

Bring me the 9th pick, and trading for KD. Maximum chaos!

KD's already in decline, may possibly even only have 1 year of all-star play left, and he's a terrible fit. You don't want Ingram, Scottie or KD running around chasing guards.

Save the assets and wait for the Minny situation to blow up, then get Anthony Edwards (or something similar to this scenario). Let other teams squander their assets so that they can't compete for the next real game changer.

What assets do you think we will have that can outbid other teams for a player like Ant? Moreover, what makes you think that Ant is headed anywhere any time soon.

[RoteSchroder]

I was always taught to never half ass a job, so lets full ass this stupid plan

Bring me the 9th pick, and trading for KD. Maximum chaos!

KD's already in decline, may possibly even only have 1 year of all-star play left, and he's a terrible fit. You don't want Ingram, Scottie or KD running around chasing guards.

Save the assets and wait for the Minny situation to blow up, then get Anthony Edwards (or something similar to this scenario). Let other teams squander their assets so that they can't compete for the next real game changer.

What assets do you think we will have that can outbid other teams for a player like Ant? Moreover, what makes you think that Ant is headed anywhere any time soon.

It was an example, hence "or something similar to this scenario". It's not like player movement has been stagnant lately.

Assets: depends on how well we draft and depends on what the other team wants. Phoenix is most likely heading in a different direction as soon as the off-season. If Houston and OKC squander their assets on Booker/Durant, that would open up things up. Suns would still be tanking, so their gained assets don't matter.

Why I used Minny as an example: they just got rid of KAT and are in the play-in at the moment, they're management is more concerned about money than winning. Their secondary star in Randle (30) isn't gonna get that much better, neither will Gobert (32), Conley's about to retire. Their future draft pick situation isn't that great. So what kind of future are we talking about here. A lot can change in 2-3 years.

[MEDIC]

I could see NO wanting to re-unite RJ & Zion.

It would.make.for an interesting storyline for their fanbase. Nothing else.going on in NO these days.

I am sure the Raps wanted nothing to do with it. Just held out until NO accepted the expiring, KO & the 1st.

Yeah that makes total sense, oh you know except for the part where the report says that NOP didn't want RJ. But yeah, other than that minor detail, basically the same thing right?

rj is our most consistent player, night in night out he consistently gives u a efficient 21-23, 5-6 dimes, while playing rock solid defense

And if by efficient you mean below league average efficiency, and if by rock solid defence you mean average at its absolute peak. I swear to god, you guys just love to make up stuff to feel better

Yeah.........like these "reports" have a high degree of accuracy?

[Scase]

KD's already in decline, may possibly even only have 1 year of all-star play left, and he's a terrible fit. You don't want Ingram, Scottie or KD running around chasing guards.

Save the assets and wait for the Minny situation to blow up, then get Anthony Edwards (or something similar to this scenario). Let other teams squander their assets so that they can't compete for the next real game changer.

What assets do you think we will have that can outbid other teams for a player like Ant? Moreover, what makes you think that Ant is headed anywhere any time soon.

It was an example, hence "or something similar to this scenario". It's not like player movement has been stagnant lately.

Assets: depends on how well we draft and depends on what the other team wants. Phoenix is most likely heading in a different direction as soon as the off-season. If Houston and OKC squander their assets on Booker/Durant, that would open up things up. Suns would still be tanking, so their gained assets don't matter.

Why I used Minny as an example: they just got rid of KAT and are in the play-in at the moment, they're management is more concerned about money than winning. Their secondary star in Randle (30) isn't gonna get that much better, neither will Gobert (32), Conley's about to retire. Their future draft pick situation isn't that great. So what kind of future are we talking about here. A lot can change in 2-3 years.

Ah I got you, I thought you had something specific in mind. Definitely a lot can change over the next couple years, but that's just kind of a given.

I could see NO wanting to re-unite RJ & Zion.

It would.make.for an interesting storyline for their fanbase. Nothing else.going on in NO these days.

I am sure the Raps wanted nothing to do with it. Just held out until NO accepted the expiring, KO & the 1st.

Yeah that makes total sense, oh you know except for the part where the report says that NOP didn't want RJ. But yeah, other than that minor detail, basically the same thing right?

rj is our most consistent player, night in night out he consistently gives u a efficient 21-23, 5-6 dimes, while playing rock solid defense

And if by efficient you mean below league average efficiency, and if by rock solid defence you mean average at its absolute peak. I swear to god, you guys just love to make up stuff to feel better

Yeah.........like these "reports" have a high degree of accuracy?

Ah yes, Scotto's reports are low accuracy, but you claiming that you are "sure the Raps wanted nothing to do with it. Just held out until NO accepted the expiring, KO & the 1st." is super reliable and accurate? Please, regale us with the tales of all your sources and contacts in the NBA that are better than Scotto's.

You're making things up on what you think might have happened in some imaginary scenario, and claiming inaccuracy from a legitimate reporter.

[DreamTeam09]

The main reason why I wouldn't buy it is the cap implications it would've put onto the Pels. With a Trey Murphy extension, Zion, Murray, CJ, Herb & then adding RJ definitely would've put them over the tax which is what they were going against, especially if Bi declined their rumored extension. They were trying to get guys from ATL all of whom would've been cheaper than RJ as well, a lot of these articles are just reporters saying what they think should happen and calling it sources because they still have a job to do even during the slow times of the szn.
Could be true too tho, I unno, RJ has exceeded expectations in about 80 games for the raps so far, let let it play out

[Pointgod]

KD's already in decline, may possibly even only have 1 year of all-star play left, and he's a terrible fit. You don't want Ingram, Scottie or KD running around chasing guards.

Save the assets and wait for the Minny situation to blow up, then get Anthony Edwards (or something similar to this scenario). Let other teams squander their assets so that they can't compete for the next real game changer.

What assets do you think we will have that can outbid other teams for a player like Ant? Moreover, what makes you think that Ant is headed anywhere any time soon.

It was an example, hence "or something similar to this scenario". It's not like player movement has been stagnant lately.

Assets: depends on how well we draft and depends on what the other team wants. Phoenix is most likely heading in a different direction as soon as the off-season. If Houston and OKC squander their assets on Booker/Durant, that would open up things up. Suns would still be tanking, so their gained assets don't matter.

Why I used Minny as an example: they just got rid of KAT and are in the play-in at the moment, they're management is more concerned about money than winning. Their secondary star in Randle (30) isn't gonna get that much better, neither will Gobert (32), Conley's about to retire. Their future draft pick situation isn't that great. So what kind of future are we talking about here. A lot can change in 2-3 years.

And if OKC isnt in the mix you still have teams like the Spurs, Jazz, Nets who have been building their asset base and can offer way more in a trade to a rebuilding team while the Raptors have been sitting on their hands and that’s if the next superstar doesn’t force their way to their preferred destination which they will 100% try to do.

[RoteSchroder]

What assets do you think we will have that can outbid other teams for a player like Ant? Moreover, what makes you think that Ant is headed anywhere any time soon.

It was an example, hence "or something similar to this scenario". It's not like player movement has been stagnant lately.

Assets: depends on how well we draft and depends on what the other team wants. Phoenix is most likely heading in a different direction as soon as the off-season. If Houston and OKC squander their assets on Booker/Durant, that would open up things up. Suns would still be tanking, so their gained assets don't matter.

Why I used Minny as an example: they just got rid of KAT and are in the play-in at the moment, they're management is more concerned about money than winning. Their secondary star in Randle (30) isn't gonna get that much better, neither will Gobert (32), Conley's about to retire. Their future draft pick situation isn't that great. So what kind of future are we talking about here. A lot can change in 2-3 years.

And if OKC isnt in the mix you still have teams like the Spurs, Jazz, Nets who have been building their asset base and can offer way more in a trade to a rebuilding team while the Raptors have been sitting on their hands and that’s if the next superstar doesn’t force their way to their preferred destination which they will 100% try to do.

Nothing's set in stone. A lot of factors come into play. There could be multiple stars available over the next 5 years. Teams tend to want to be playoff/play-in level to make these trades, timelines need to match. Contracts need to be suitable. Players may have a say in where they want to go. Teams can value young players, productive players or draft picks more. Injuries can cause major set backs (e.g. Wemby's deep vein thrombosis could be a major issue). And no one except Mormons want to play in Utah.

[OakleyDokely]

I have a funny feeling they are going to make another big move in the offseason, like going after someone like KD. They will need some decent sized contracts to make it work.

The east is in a state where the Raps can make a huge jump up with a key move or two. The Raps are able to already compete with most of the teams despite the fact they are playing incomplete lineups and giving rookies big minutes.

[mihaic]

Per Lewenberg from wiretap:

Toronto envisions Ingram teaming with Scottie Barnes and RJ Barrett to form a switchable, versatile forward/wing trio.

Yes, these reporters will never know the truth from the Raps brass.

I dunno but the urinals at the toilets near Bobby and Masai's office must be squiky clean and dry cause they sure as well don't leak.

[Dalek]

Per Lewenberg from wiretap:

Toronto envisions Ingram teaming with Scottie Barnes and RJ Barrett to form a switchable, versatile forward/wing trio.

Yes, these reporters will never know the truth from the Raps brass.

I dunno but the urinals at the toilets near Bobby and Masai's office must be squiky clean and dry cause they sure as well don't leak.

I mean it makes sense to me. Look at the Lakers with Bron, Luka and Reaves. They seem to thrive with versatile forward/wings in the same way, just at a way higher level.

IQ just needs to be Gabe Vincent level - make shots and defend the perimeter. Maybe, Shead can surpass him, but I think losing Mitchell was a bit of a mistake.

[Basketball_Jones]

I have a funny feeling they are going to make another big move in the offseason, like going after someone like KD. They will need some decent sized contracts to make it work.

The east is in a state where the Raps can make a huge jump up with a key move or two. The Raps are able to already compete with most of the teams despite the fact they are playing incomplete lineups and giving rookies big minutes.

We are definitely going to be buyers and at this point I can really only see RJ as the piece that makes sense. We have a glut of shooting guards behind him for cheaper and could use help elsewhere. This years pick is also likely going to be another depth piece rather then a foundation guy at this point but too soon to be definitive on that. Certainly not a guy we shape things around like Flagg or Harper.

[MEDIC]

Per Lewenberg from wiretap:

Toronto envisions Ingram teaming with Scottie Barnes and RJ Barrett to form a switchable, versatile forward/wing trio..

Sounds about right. You have 2 of those guys on at any one time. 3 to start & 3 to close out.

[Scase]

Per Lewenberg from wiretap:

Toronto envisions Ingram teaming with Scottie Barnes and RJ Barrett to form a switchable, versatile forward/wing trio.

Yes, these reporters will never know the truth from the Raps brass.

I dunno but the urinals at the toilets near Bobby and Masai's office must be squiky clean and dry cause they sure as well don't leak.

I mean it makes sense to me. Look at the Lakers with Bron, Luka and Reaves. They seem to thrive with versatile forward/wings in the same way, just at a way higher level.

IQ just needs to be Gabe Vincent level - make shots and defend the perimeter. Maybe, Shead can surpass him, but I think losing Mitchell was a bit of a mistake.

But that's why it works. you can make damn near anything work when you have Luka/Lebron lol.

[tsherkin]

I have a funny feeling they are going to make another big move in the offseason, like going after someone like KD. They will need some decent sized contracts to make it work.

Making that work would be interesting. Which of Scottie or BI would we have to give up?

[sidsid]

I have a funny feeling they are going to make another big move in the offseason, like going after someone like KD. They will need some decent sized contracts to make it work.

The east is in a state where the Raps can make a huge jump up with a key move or two. The Raps are able to already compete with most of the teams despite the fact they are playing incomplete lineups and giving rookies big minutes.

My thoughts right after the BI trade is that you can't put it passed this FO to trade this year's pick away, but I'd put money on us not having a 2026 pick.

Nothing this FO hates more than having to draft players.