Dumb Luck PHI/DAL

[HornetJail]

two teams that made EXTREMELY bad decisions in the last year, try to make the best of their situations

Scenario: the Sixers luck into pick 2 or 3 in the draft lottery. A scenario that as of today has a 17.2% chance of occurring. Specifically chose this as 4th seems too light (maybe it's workable at #4 if you like a prospect enough, and the scenario jumps to a 26.3% chance of occurring), and nobody's trading Flagg if they get the 1st pick.

Mavs trade Anthony Davis, Klay Thompson
76ers trade [#2 or #3], Jared McCain, Paul George

Dallas starts a very quick quasi-rebuild with one of the top prospects in this class, rather than attempt to go all in on an aging and injured Kyrie/AD core. Also get a nice rookie who had a good season before his own injury. Paul George is definitely being valued as a significant negative asset here, but it's conceivable that he can play his way back into a respectable place. It is fair to assume next year is something of a wash due to Kyrie's ACL, and 2026 is really the only possible year to tank for a young player before their 1st pick obligations from 2027-2030 start. Still... there are worse starting points for a rebuild than #2 and #13 this year, McCain, Lively, and a mid-lotto pick in next year's draft. Not to mention the vet stars who can hopefully be back at full strength in 2026-27, and a number of good role players.

The Sixers cash in on their horrific season and hypothetical lottery luck here and snag AD to pair with Embiid. While they will quickly gain the nickname "The Glass Brothers", that's a terrifying duo for opposing frontcourts to deal with, and the AD addition definitely can help mitigate the chronic rest days and injury games Embiid is going to have to miss. Klay adds needed spacing there as well. Maxey/Klay/Oubre/AD/Embiid

[Baz]

I suspect it's a hard no from Sixers

[ReggiesKnicks]

Lucking into a Top 2-3 pick is a blessing for Philly. They can reset around Maxey/McCain/#3 pick.

[Apz]

I think it have to be the other way around. Nico betted everything on winning next 2 years. I think it will have to be kyrie to philly and mavs paying the price for the swap

[Godaddycurse]

I think it have to be the other way around. Nico betted everything on winning next 2 years. I think it will have to be kyrie to philly and mavs paying the price for the swap

dont think mavs owe much value if any in a kyrie for george swap

[youngcrev]

"We don't know if Embiid is ever going to be healthy again... Let's triple down!"



Honestly, this deal doesn't make much sense regardless of Embiid's health for the Sixers. If healthy, AD isn't a great fit. If not... What are we doing here?

[Texas Chuck]

I think it have to be the other way around. Nico betted everything on winning next 2 years. I think it will have to be kyrie to philly and mavs paying the price for the swap

dont think mavs owe much value if any in a kyrie for george swap

He's opted in? Dallas certainly owes no value and in fact would be owed value

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[jbk1234]

Dallas is pot committed at this point. Kyrie is going to opt in. AD and Lively will hopefully be relatively healthy. They need to give next season a chance and maybe trade for a guy like Sexton as a place holder until Kyrie can get back on the court.

[jayjaysee]

Lots of back and forth here. I don’t see why Philly considers the OP really.

Another problem with the OP is AD makes more than PG next season? I don’t think you can use this years salary slot anymore?

But if Philly keeps their pick this year? And owes a top 4 protected 2026 pick to OKC? How much more can Dallas get if you swapped the 2025 lottery pick for the 2028 LAC first?

Paul George, McCain, 2028 LAC first for AD. Dallas can send Powell to a third team to not trigger a first apron hard cap. Or send Martin to a third team and just get under the tax..

Maxey/AD, with the top 4 pick and some okay depth survive until Joel is healthy and feel like a contender if everyone is healthy?

Dallas lets Kyrie miss the entire season, let PG play every third game.. 2026 you have a “young core” McCain, Christie, Lively, 2025 top 12 pick, 2026 top 6ish pick and hopefully a healthy Kyrie and what’s left of PG to lead them? Some okay draft capital coming in..

[jayjaysee]

A slightly different twist which probably is more realistic?

If Philly keeps their pick

Paul George, 2028 LAC first for Gafford, PJ, Klay, Marshall? Some third team making the apron stuff work*

Philly goes with a lot of depth until Joel gets back and they don’t sacrifice the future core.

Dallas goes with Lively/AD/PG/Christie/some free agent until Kyrie gets back but at least add another future asset? Pretends PG is still a two way star?

If Dallas’ guys (and taking on 3 years of PG) aren’t worth the unprotected pick, maybe you let Philly put top 4-6ish protection and have it turn to the 2029 Philly first?

[youngcrev]

A slightly different twist which probably is more realistic?

If Philly keeps their pick

Paul George, 2028 LAC first for Gafford, PJ, Klay, Marshall? Some third team making the apron stuff work*

Philly goes with a lot of depth until Joel gets back and they don’t sacrifice the future core.

Dallas goes with Lively/AD/PG/Christie/some free agent until Kyrie gets back but at least add another future asset? Pretends PG is still a two way star?

If Dallas’ guys (and taking on 3 years of PG) aren’t worth the unprotected pick, maybe you let Philly put top 4-6ish protection and have it turn to the 2029 Philly first?

That's more interesting to me.

I'm of the opinion that the Sixers shouldn't pay to get off of PG, but this at least nets some viable rotation pieces that could fit a potential Maxey/McCain timeline and allow Embiid to ease back in (if he's able to).

And PG at least makes some sense on that Dallas team.

[jayjaysee]

A slightly different twist which probably is more realistic?

If Philly keeps their pick

Paul George, 2028 LAC first for Gafford, PJ, Klay, Marshall? Some third team making the apron stuff work*

Philly goes with a lot of depth until Joel gets back and they don’t sacrifice the future core.

Dallas goes with Lively/AD/PG/Christie/some free agent until Kyrie gets back but at least add another future asset? Pretends PG is still a two way star?

If Dallas’ guys (and taking on 3 years of PG) aren’t worth the unprotected pick, maybe you let Philly put top 4-6ish protection and have it turn to the 2029 Philly first?

That's more interesting to me.

I'm of the opinion that the Sixers shouldn't pay to get off of PG, but this at least nets some viable rotation pieces that could fit a potential Maxey/McCain timeline and allow Embiid to ease back in (if he's able to).

And PG at least makes some sense on that Dallas team.

Yeah, Philly should only really do it if they keep their pick. Gives them a young core and the lightly protected 2026 first means they might as well try to improve.

If they own their 2026 first and Joel is having surgery, they should just let the season play out IMO..

[ecuhus1981]

Look, I don't hate this idea. I'm not sure on the spacing for Philly, but this has merit for both.

[timani]

Dallas is pot committed at this point. Kyrie is going to opt in. AD and Lively will hopefully be relatively healthy. They need to give next season a chance and maybe trade for a guy like Sexton as a place holder until Kyrie can get back on the court.

Nico won't trade for a guy like Sexton that is terrible defensively. He traded Luka because "defense wins championships", so it would have to be a defensive guy. They'll play a plodding, slow, defensive style to try and hold on until Kyrie hopefully comes back towards the end of next year. You don't trade Luka and then pay for a Sexton-type player.

[jbk1234]

Dallas is pot committed at this point. Kyrie is going to opt in. AD and Lively will hopefully be relatively healthy. They need to give next season a chance and maybe trade for a guy like Sexton as a place holder until Kyrie can get back on the court.

Nico won't trade for a guy like Sexton that is terrible defensively. He traded Luka because "defense wins championships", so it would have to be a defensive guy. They'll play a plodding, slow, defensive style to try and hold on until Kyrie hopefully comes back towards the end of next year. You don't trade Luka and then pay for a Sexton-type player.

Someone besides AD needs to be able to put the ball in the basket.

[facothomas22]

Pass for the 76ers. While value wise, this isn't far off, direction wise, this a disaster waiting to happen. 2 injury prone big men on team rarely ends well and there's no way to tell if Emiid is even going to be able to play at a high level again.

[Texas Chuck]

Dallas is pot committed at this point. Kyrie is going to opt in. AD and Lively will hopefully be relatively healthy. They need to give next season a chance and maybe trade for a guy like Sexton as a place holder until Kyrie can get back on the court.

Nico won't trade for a guy like Sexton that is terrible defensively. He traded Luka because "defense wins championships", so it would have to be a defensive guy. They'll play a plodding, slow, defensive style to try and hold on until Kyrie hopefully comes back towards the end of next year. You don't trade Luka and then pay for a Sexton-type player.

Someone besides AD needs to be able to put the ball in the basket.

Not sure how anyone can watch the offense currently being spearheaded by Marshall and Dinwiddie and think yeah this is fine lol. And no the return of AD/PJ/Lively/Gafford doesn't solve that issue.

Yes the team is going to need to be great defensively to be competitive pre-Kyrie, but you still need offensive creation at a higher level than what they have.

[timani]

Nico won't trade for a guy like Sexton that is terrible defensively. He traded Luka because "defense wins championships", so it would have to be a defensive guy. They'll play a plodding, slow, defensive style to try and hold on until Kyrie hopefully comes back towards the end of next year. You don't trade Luka and then pay for a Sexton-type player.

Someone besides AD needs to be able to put the ball in the basket.

Not sure how anyone can watch the offense currently being spearheaded by Marshall and Dinwiddie and think yeah this is fine lol. And no the return of AD/PJ/Lively/Gafford doesn't solve that issue.

Yes the team is going to need to be great defensively to be competitive pre-Kyrie, but you still need offensive creation at a higher level than what they have.

I get that they need more offense but it wouldn't be a guy like Sexton. It would be someone that can also play defense. Don't have any names but Nico has made clear his blueprint and he traded perhaps the best offensive player in the league to see it through.