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2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV

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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1881 » by TeamTragic » Fri Mar 7, 2025 7:15 pm

They_Them_Hatin wrote:Phoenix really put themselves in a Jimmy 2.0 situation but luckily KD won’t throw games and act like a toddler like Jimmy. You either accept a mediocre package for him or burn assets trying to fix the hot mess of a roster you created for no reason.


The Warriors are 35-28 because Jimmy Butler is that guy. Clearly it was just Riley being a **** prick.
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Post#1882 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Mar 7, 2025 9:21 pm

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They_Them_Hatin wrote:Minnesota is not trading Gobert + Mcdaniels for Booker. Y’all are so unrealistic with any of these trades. I mean Castle, Ware? :lol: :lol:


This is a KD trade premise man (per the tweet above). :wink:

Having said that, I do agree with you that Minnesota would have absolutely no intent in trading Gobert and McDaniels for KD and that their actual intentions would be to trade Randle as he's been a poor fit with them.

But none of this should have been surprising to anyone as Randle not being a floor spacing big next to Gobert only creates even more floor spacing issues.

But for us it'd not be as bad because BOTH Booker and Beal being shooter/ scorers could play off of Randles' physical post play/ gravity. And also his being a 30 million expiring contract could be used in other trades in this CBA restrictive climate.

Minnesota would want KD at the 4 flanked defensively by McDaniels at the 3 and Gobert at the 5 allowing KD to focus completely on offense with ANT.

This is why I'd demand at least additional value included in the MINNE package because Randle isn't viewed as a positive asset and as a centerpiece of the trade would make this trade a low key salary dump for us. So significant value would have to be added in the form of:

Randles' 30 million expiring/ Conleys' 10 million expiring/ DiVencenzo/ Dillingham/ Detroit's 25' 1st (19th pick) / and MIN 31' 1st.

And anything less than this, there'd be no KD to Minnesota deal. And as for the Castle and Ware incusions, I don't expect the Spurs to include Castle at all for KD, for me it's a package of Vassell/ Barnes expiring/ Sochan/ 2 decent to great 1sts (ATL 25' 1st (15th pick)/ MIN or DAL 31' 1st.

But the for a KD to Miami package Ware would be the centerpiece of the trade, and if he's not included, then the package would have to become a Rozier 25 million expiring/ Robinson 19 million expiring/ Jovic / Jacquez / GS 25' 1st ( 20th pick)/ MIA 29' 1st/ MIA 31' 1st. I'm not eating Wiggins salary and if not getting those two young players and 3 1sts back, there absolutely not getting KD at all. :D


They_Them_Hatin wrote:Of course I know this is about KD and it went over your head because it’s so absurd they wouldn’t even trade it for Booker.

Spurs are not including Sochan either. It’ll be Johnson. Vassell+Johnson Hawks picks

Miami is the only realistic trade that works for both sides with the Rozier, Robinson, Anderson, Jaime, Jovic, GS 1st & 1 more 1st. Maybe a swap. It’s not a bad trade at all. Robinson can be cut and further under the 2nd apron.

They aren’t getting a Jimmy/Kuminga picks like package in the summer. KD is choosing his team and made it clear he doesn’t want them to gut their team for him. Now the few teams you might could’ve pawned Beal off on will probably refuse the calls and make a mediocre KD offer. James Jones is such a genius!


Lol! Sorry, I didn't mean to trigger you somehow man. But clearly Nothing went over my head!. You responded to Slim's response of the original tweet that Puddles responded to from my tweet, which clearly contextually mentioned KD to Minnesota in this discussion premise and Puddles responded saying maybe a KD for Gobert and McDaniels value package. Booker was/ has never been discussed in a Minnesota trade premise because it simply makes absolutely no sense with ANT there at the same position! Below is you're quoted response to the discussion on the KD to Minnesota trade: (Booker never mentioned in any context to this KD/ Minnesota discussion other than by you personally conflating two entirely different discussion premises).

"Minnesota is not trading Gobert + Mcdaniels for Booker. Y’all are so unrealistic with any of these trades. I mean Castle, Ware?"

So again, nothing went over my head here as the discussion and responses had nothing at all to do with Booker. And was always a discussion referring to KD. Now to your point about Minnesota not being willing to trade Gobert or McDaniels for KD (the actual discussion premise)! I already agreed with you on that and gave the reasons why they wouldn't, so I'm not exactly sure why you became so upset or bothered? I also agree with you that they wouldn't trade Gobert and McDaniels for Booker NOT on the premise of overall value because Booker would carry that value in trade, but not to Minnesota because they clearly already have ANT at that same position so such a premise makes no sense anyways!

However I do disagree with your suggestion that San Antonio wouldn't be willing to include Sochan in a KD to San Antonio trade!
On the premise of value, KDs' value has been consensus around 1-2 really good young players, salary fillers, and a lotto pick in the 4-8 range (inside the top 10 basically) and those are premised on the conditions of him only being a 1 yr rental at best scenario. So that value obviously increases reasonably IF he'd be willing to extend with the receiving team. So given this baseline value consensus determination, let's assess the San Antonio value return package:

- Devin Vassell. A good young rotational player, but also on a sizable long-term contract similar to KCP's which under this current CBA would obviously affect value exchange. So Vassell fills the good young player premise but again, value is slightly diminished by his sizable long term salary commitment.
- Barnes. A large expiring with slightly above neutral trade value but not much if at all beyond an expiring filler. So he fills the filler premise.
- Sochan. Sochan represents a really energetic/ solid defender and a decent but still not great or reliable ballhandler that can't shoot, is foul and turnover-prone, and the bulk of his value is based on his athleticism, motor, and size on the defensive end but not with much of a ceiling beyond that other than a very solid utility defensive wing on a smaller salary. So his value is at best a good defensive rotation/bench option as clearly indicated by multiple depth charts:
https://africa.espn.com/nba/team/depth/_/name/sa
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/SA/san-antonio-spurs/depth-chart/
https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2025_depth.html
- ATL 25' 1st (15th pick) right outside the lottery and clearly not close to 4-8 range! Does not meet the threshold value.
- ATL 27' 1st ( A future 1st with unestablished value). So clearly likely decent but no guarantee of meeting threshold value.

And this is the better value example I've offered man! But with you taking out Sochan and swapping in Johnson with Vassell having us take back both long term salaries while not getting San Antonio's 7th pick included coming back, there's just no way Phoenix would accept this PU PU platter of bad value for KD man. Because this package without Sochan, taking back two long term contracts with sizable salaries AND not even getting back one legitimate lottery pick for eating that money is not very realistic and honestly a pretty bad consensus return.

Now let's look at why the Spurs WOULD actually do my package value premise:
1- Popovich and KD have a very close, strong relationship from Pops' time coaching KD to gold medals twice in the Olympics in 2016 (RIO) and in 2020-21 (Tokyo).
2- KD and Wembyama (The Spurs generational franchise player) both adore each other much the same premise as Anthony awards and KD do and both would love to play together. Now this is important in the context of value extraction in trades because the Spurs will want to not only keep Wemby happy (just as Minnesota would also with ANT). But Pophas also already indicated that he's intending to come back to coaching possibly next season, so this would align well with both interests.
3- The Spurs acquiring KD not only would give them their coveted big three of Wemby/ Durant/ Fox, but it'd also carry premium value to them for KD to mentor Wemby and competitively advance their young team into the playoffs.

Now again, Sochan as you can clearly see although a good, promising defender carries at best medial/ decent inclusionary bench rotation level utility value as maybe a key throw in. but nowhere close to being a "deciding factor" or the make or break piece in a KD trade man. You can also try to argue diminished return on the basis of KDs' being on an expiring deal and possibly being a rental. But that's obviously a very flimsy argument on the basis of the clearly stated mutual interest, the deep connections between Pop and KD and Wemby too, and the cap space and willingness to resign KD to his last big contract being significant factors in KD likely resigning there. So again, increasing the value exchange return and nullifying the rental premise.

You might also argue for KD steering his destination, and not wanting to gut the team, but this too isn't a very legitimate argument because clearly it's already been established that there'll be anywhere from 4-6 suitors for KD at minimum. And some of those being more than willing to still give up significant value for him even if a rental scenario because he'd still offer a massive 54 million expiring to reduce cap for any receiving team in this current CBA. That alone carries significant value! And then you also have to consider that working with KD on a trade does not mean being forced to take back pizz poor value just to capitulate to KD's interests.

The Suns have already given up excessive unnecessary value in the KD trade and just about every trade thereafter and been consistently ridiculed for it. To save any face and future left, the front office won't take back horrible value here! What they demanded back from Miami is clear indication of their baseline. And if those thresholds aren't met, they'll just move to the next options. Because again they'll have multiple bids regardless of his contract situation. Under these conditions, KD won't be dictating nearly as much as you may be thinking, man.

Lastly, while I also agree on your Miami package you mentioned as almost decent baseline (bottom option value), and I also agree that Miami will try very hard to not include Ware in a KD trade, Phoenix will still demand it as centerpiece value, and IF Ware is off the table, they'll have to be getting back the package you mentioned WITHOUT Anderson (as the money doesn't match in that package with Anderson) AND WITH 3 TOTAL 1sts because the value would have to be replaced to make up for no centerpiece value with Ware excluded or no KD! So the baseline package would be Rozier 25 million expiring/ Robinson 19 million expiring/ Jovic/ Jacquez/ GS 25' 1st (20th pick)/ MIA 29' 1st/ MIA 31' 1st. Anything less than this lowest baseline value return, and the Suns will trade KD elsewhere. What I strongly disagree with is your suggestion that Miami will be the most realistic trade for KD as again, there'll be multiple suitors and mechanisms for those teams to trade for KD this summer.

It's going to play out much differently than many here are anticipating man. :nod:
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1883 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Mar 7, 2025 9:35 pm

They_Them_Hatin wrote:Phoenix really put themselves in a Jimmy 2.0 situation but luckily KD won’t throw games and act like a toddler like Jimmy. You either accept a mediocre package for him or burn assets trying to fix the hot mess of a roster you created for no reason.


You really think the Suns will just bend over and accept a mediocre package for KD man when there'll be multiple suitors for him? Even those accepting of the possibility of him being a rental, because even in that worst case scenario, without him resigning, he'd still bring any recireving team huge cap savings or a 54 million expiring contract that any team could move at thee trade deadline for other assets in addition to getting the cap reduction from moving him too. And that's not even taking into consideration the bidding that'll drive up value regardless. Even in the very worst scenario outcome, Phoenix could/ would just hold onto him and look at moving him again around the trade deadline as an enormous expiring to some other 2nd apron or cap strapped teams that find out they're not lgit contenders and give up value for the 54 million in cap savings to utilize in pivot strategies!

The suggestion that Phoenix "must" somehow accept a mediocre offer or worse is honestly very, very unlikely if not a laughable premise man. :dontknow:
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Post#1884 » by grumpysaddle » Fri Mar 7, 2025 9:35 pm

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grumpysaddle wrote:Man, **** the Lakers


I hate the Lakers but I’m a huge Luka fan. I want him to do good, but I don’t want lakers to do well. What should I do? :banghead:

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Post#1885 » by bullsaficianado » Fri Mar 7, 2025 10:15 pm

I would rather let Durant expire and walk than accept a mediocre package for him.
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Post#1886 » by Slim Charless » Fri Mar 7, 2025 10:20 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
They_Them_Hatin wrote:Phoenix really put themselves in a Jimmy 2.0 situation but luckily KD won’t throw games and act like a toddler like Jimmy. You either accept a mediocre package for him or burn assets trying to fix the hot mess of a roster you created for no reason.


You really think the Suns will just bend over and accept a mediocre package for KD man when there'll be multiple suitors for him? Even those accepting of the possibility of him being a rental, because even in that worst case scenario, without him resigning, he'd still bring any recireving team huge cap savings or a 54 million expiring contract that any team could move at thee trade deadline for other assets in addition to getting the cap reduction from moving him too. And that's not even taking into consideration the bidding that'll drive up value regardless. Even in the very worst scenario outcome, Phoenix could/ would just hold onto him and look at moving him again around the trade deadline as an enormous expiring to some other 2nd apron or cap strapped teams that find out they're not lgit contenders and give up value for the 54 million in cap savings to utilize in pivot strategies!

The suggestion that Phoenix "must" somehow accept a mediocre offer or worse is honestly very, very unlikely if not a laughable premise man. :dontknow:


That guy's stupid......and probably a troll. Not worth the trouble of engaging.
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Post#1887 » by sunsfan1o1 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 10:56 pm

TeamTragic wrote:
They_Them_Hatin wrote:Phoenix really put themselves in a Jimmy 2.0 situation but luckily KD won’t throw games and act like a toddler like Jimmy. You either accept a mediocre package for him or burn assets trying to fix the hot mess of a roster you created for no reason.


The Warriors are 35-28 because Jimmy Butler is that guy. Clearly it was just Riley being a **** prick.

It’s cuz steph curry has been playing better due to the adrenaline boost teams get after a blockbuster trade.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1888 » by Ghost of Kleine » Fri Mar 7, 2025 11:34 pm

Slim Charless wrote:
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They_Them_Hatin wrote:Phoenix really put themselves in a Jimmy 2.0 situation but luckily KD won’t throw games and act like a toddler like Jimmy. You either accept a mediocre package for him or burn assets trying to fix the hot mess of a roster you created for no reason.


You really think the Suns will just bend over and accept a mediocre package for KD man when there'll be multiple suitors for him? Even those accepting of the possibility of him being a rental, because even in that worst case scenario, without him resigning, he'd still bring any recireving team huge cap savings or a 54 million expiring contract that any team could move at thee trade deadline for other assets in addition to getting the cap reduction from moving him too. And that's not even taking into consideration the bidding that'll drive up value regardless. Even in the very worst scenario outcome, Phoenix could/ would just hold onto him and look at moving him again around the trade deadline as an enormous expiring to some other 2nd apron or cap strapped teams that find out they're not lgit contenders and give up value for the 54 million in cap savings to utilize in pivot strategies!

The suggestion that Phoenix "must" somehow accept a mediocre offer or worse is honestly very, very unlikely if not a laughable premise man. :dontknow:


That guy's stupid......and probably a troll. Not worth the trouble of engaging.

That's what I was actually thinking too man. It's just the situation we're apparently gonna be in over the next few months. Crazy that so few other people can see or comprehend the value that we both recognize rather easily for KD and Booker in trade scenarios. But like you've said yourself too, I think a lot of people are gonna be surprised by what we get back for KD (in a good way obviously)! :D
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Post#1889 » by dremill24 » Fri Mar 7, 2025 11:39 pm

KdoubleDees23 wrote:KD to bulls for Williams, White , and Giddey (new contract)


I usually land on the more pessimistic side of how much you can get for your players but even I think this would be quite a poor package tbh.
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Post#1890 » by RaisingArizona » Sat Mar 8, 2025 2:17 am

They_Them_Hatin wrote:Phoenix really put themselves in a Jimmy 2.0 situation but luckily KD won’t throw games and act like a toddler like Jimmy. You either accept a mediocre package for him or burn assets trying to fix the hot mess of a roster you created for no reason.

You seem to know lots about mediocre packages
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Post#1891 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sat Mar 8, 2025 2:19 am

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Obviously Dallas has accepted their fate this season! Their tank is in full effect to try and climb as high as possible in the lottery! At this rate, it's reasonable to think they could climb into the top 5-6 possibly slightly higher by the time the season ends, allowing them to jump up into the top 3 of the lottery as a payoff from Adam Silver for their part in the Luka collusion trade.

But how this helps us is in a KD to Dallas trade increasing their draft picks value to the exact proper high value range of 4-8 and then making a smaller player package more palatable due to the high lotto pick!

Something like Thompson/ Washington/ Gafford/ Marshall/ DAL 25' 1st (4-8 range lottery pick). And with that pick, I'd stay and quickly draft Kasparas Jakucionis ( young 6'6 Dragic/ Podziemski hybrid PGOTF). I'd follow that up by:

1- Trade Thompson to Charlotte for G Williams (O'neale replacement)/ CHO 25' 2nd (32nd pick)/ NOP 25' 2nd (34th pick).
2- Trade Allen to Orlando for Bidatze
3- Trade O'neale to San Antonio for Sochan/ 26' NOP or POR (best of swap)/ Utah 26' 2nd.
4- Trade Richards/ Marshall to Houston for Landale/ 26' 2nd (OKC, DAL or PHI swap).

NBA DRAFT

5- Kasparas Jakucionis. Goran Dragic- PG
29- Carter Bryant. PJ Washington- SF
32- Maxime Raynaud. Pau Gasol- PF/C
34- Jo'an Beringer. Jarrett Allen/ Nik Claxton C.
54- Kobe Brea. 6'7 Klay Thompson SG.

G League Two ways (3 allowed)

1- Colin Gillespie- TJ McConnell.
2- Carter Bryant- PJ Washington.
3- Jo'an Beringer- Jarrett Allen/ Nik Claxton.

FREE AGENCY
- Chris Paul on vet min.
- Gary Trent Jr on vet min.
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Booker / Beal / Washington / Bol / Gafford.
Paul / Trent Jr / Dunn / Landale / Bidatze.
Jakucionis/ Brea/ Sochan/ Raynaud/ Ighodaro.
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Post#1892 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sat Mar 8, 2025 2:38 am

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Would any of you do this trade for Lauri Markannen? (I don't think that Utah would at all though)??

Suns get:
- Lauri Markkanen (from Jazz)
- Jock Landale (from Rockets)
- Lower 2025 first-rounder from the Minnesota Timberwolves and Suns (via Rockets or Jazz)

Rockets get:
- Kevin Durant (from Suns)

Jazz get:
- Reed Sheppard (from Rockets)
- Jabari Smith Jr. (from Rockets)
- Cam Whitmore (from Rockets)
- Aaron Holiday (from Rockets)
- Jeff Green (from Rockets)
- Jae'Sean Tate (from Rockets)
- Higher 2025 first-rounder from the Timberwolves and Suns (via Rockets)
- $20.4 million trade exception (Markkanen)


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Post#1893 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sat Mar 8, 2025 3:07 am

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Post#1894 » by BobbieL » Sat Mar 8, 2025 3:26 am

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Would any of you do this trade for Lauri Markannen? (I don't think that Utah would at all though)??

Suns get:
- Lauri Markkanen (from Jazz)
- Jock Landale (from Rockets)
- Lower 2025 first-rounder from the Minnesota Timberwolves and Suns (via Rockets or Jazz)

Rockets get:
- Kevin Durant (from Suns)

Jazz get:
- Reed Sheppard (from Rockets)
- Jabari Smith Jr. (from Rockets)
- Cam Whitmore (from Rockets)
- Aaron Holiday (from Rockets)
- Jeff Green (from Rockets)
- Jae'Sean Tate (from Rockets)
- Higher 2025 first-rounder from the Timberwolves and Suns (via Rockets)
- $20.4 million trade exception (Markkanen)




Skip Utah … just take the rockets package

I was going back and forth with Pincus
He think the suns would want to build around Booker with a name

I actually think the Houston part makes the Suns better over Markannen

Ishibia would be stupid to turn down that Houston trade for kd
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Post#1895 » by SunsRback4Good » Sat Mar 8, 2025 4:48 am

RaisingArizona wrote:
They_Them_Hatin wrote:Phoenix really put themselves in a Jimmy 2.0 situation but luckily KD won’t throw games and act like a toddler like Jimmy. You either accept a mediocre package for him or burn assets trying to fix the hot mess of a roster you created for no reason.

You seem to know lots about mediocre packages


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Post#1896 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sat Mar 8, 2025 6:50 am

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So probably no Hartenstein deal for KD, makes me wonder as Slim already suggested if they'd consider a Holmgren inclusion instead?

But even if they don't, I'd probably still do the trade for Dort/ Joe/ Wiggins/ Dieng/ Topic/ 3 1sts...................
- Miami 25' 1st (16th pick).
- Clippers 25' 1st (17th pick).
- Dallas 28' 1st ***( pick swap).***
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Follow up trades

- Trade Topic/ Dieng/ MIA 25' 1st/ DAL 28' 1st/ CLE 29' 1st to Toronto for the 5th overall pick.
- Trade O'neale to San Antonio for Sochan/ SAS 25' 2nd (39th pick).
- Trade Allen to Orlando for Bidatze.
- Trade Dort/ Joe/ CLE 27' 1st to Utah for John Collins.
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Then in the draft:

5- Kasparas Jakucionis- Dragic/ Podziemski. PG
17- Rasheer Fleming- John Collins/ WCJr. PF
29- Carter Bryant- PJ Washington/ B Clarke. SF/PF
39- Maxime Raynaud- Pau Gasol 2.0. PF/C
54- Kobe Brea- Prime Klay Thompson. SG
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Roster
Booker / Beal / Dunn / Collins / Bidatze.
Paul / Wiggins/ Sochan/ Bol/ Richards.
Jakucionis/ Brea/ Bryant/ Fleming/ Raynaud.

G League ( 3 two ways allowed)
1- Colin Gillespie.- TJ McConnell.
2- Oso Ighodaro- Bigger Thaddeus Young.
3- John Monje- Devin Booker.
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Post#1897 » by Mr Puddles » Sat Mar 8, 2025 7:19 am

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So probably no Hartenstein deal for KD, makes me wonder as Slim already suggested if they'd consider a Holmgren inclusion instead?

But even if they don't, I'd probably still do the trade for Dort/ Joe/ Wiggins/ Dieng/ Topic/ 3 1sts...................
- Miami 25' 1st (16th pick).
- Clippers 25' 1st (17th pick).
- Dallas 28' 1st ***( pick swap).***
_____________________________________________
Follow up trades

- Trade Topic/ Dieng/ MIA 25' 1st/ DAL 28' 1st/ CLE 29' 1st to Toronto for the 5th overall pick.
- Trade O'neale to San Antonio for Sochan/ SAS 25' 2nd (39th pick).
- Trade Allen to Orlando for Bidatze.
- Trade Dort/ Joe/ CLE 27' 1st to Utah for John Collins.
______________________________________________
Then in the draft:

5- Kasparas Jakucionis- Dragic/ Podziemski. PG
17- Rasheer Fleming- John Collins/ WCJr. PF
29- Carter Bryant- PJ Washington/ B Clarke. SF/PF
39- Maxime Raynaud- Pau Gasol 2.0. PF/C
54- Kobe Brea- Prime Klay Thompson. SG
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Roster
Booker / Beal / Dunn / Collins / Bidatze.
Paul / Wiggins/ Sochan/ Bol/ Richards.
Jakucionis/ Brea/ Bryant/ Fleming/ Raynaud.

G League ( 3 two ways allowed)
1- Colin Gillespie.- TJ McConnell.
2- Oso Ighodaro- Bigger Thaddeus Young.
3- John Monje- Devin Booker.
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If the Thunder aren't willing to include either Williams or Holmgren than I don't see a trade with OKC happening. With KD on their team either one of those guys would need to come off the bench. If OKR are not willing to give up a 6th man for KD, then JJ will have to look elsewhere.
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Post#1898 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sat Mar 8, 2025 7:27 am

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So many lies and BS narratives being spun here by the Mavs front office, ownership, GM, etc. I wonder what they're still trying to cover up for?? 8-)
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Post#1899 » by sunsbum » Sat Mar 8, 2025 10:27 am

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So many lies and BS narratives being spun here by the Mavs front office, ownership, GM, etc. I wonder what they're still trying to cover up for?? 8-)

There was another lie covering for this trade but it came from the lakers side, Jeanie buss basically saying AD was being toxic for asking to play PF instead of C and him wanting them to go out and get a center. “Then we found out Luka was available”. This **** is WWF style fake. Bad actors all the way around to go along with a trade that makes zero sense.
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Re: 2024-25 Season Discussion and Speculation Part IV 

Post#1900 » by Funky Tut » Sat Mar 8, 2025 3:46 pm

sunsfan1o1 wrote:
TeamTragic wrote:
They_Them_Hatin wrote:Phoenix really put themselves in a Jimmy 2.0 situation but luckily KD won’t throw games and act like a toddler like Jimmy. You either accept a mediocre package for him or burn assets trying to fix the hot mess of a roster you created for no reason.


The Warriors are 35-28 because Jimmy Butler is that guy. Clearly it was just Riley being a **** prick.

It’s cuz steph curry has been playing better due to the adrenaline boost teams get after a blockbuster trade.
This will subside shortly.
OKC, BOS CLE are the only contenders this year. Dark horse is Denver


Nah , Silver will make sure LAL will be in the finals

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