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Re: PG Knicks/Lakers 

Post#521 » by Guano » Sat Mar 8, 2025 4:38 am

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kNicksGmen wrote:brunson slow walks the ball up the court...


This is my biggest issue with Captain JB. He often takes the full 8 seconds and I don't get why.
He wants the ball. He's very selfish.

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Yes the guy who gave up 100m is vv selfish
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Post#522 » by HopelessKnick » Sat Mar 8, 2025 6:34 am

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HopelessKnick wrote:We'll probably not get much of an update on Brunson today or over the weekend. The team will keep it vague in oder to not get ****. Then in 3-4 weeks with the playoffs approaching you'll hear more details coming out about him trying to rehab etc.

This is the same playbook as with the Randle injury. Keep it "optimistic" and vague in the aftermath. Prevent a ****. And then like a snake announce the severity sometime down the line with the season close to an end.

The Julius Randle playbook. By now the team has taken X-Rays and an MRI. They know the extent of the injury. Them not announcing anything is not a good sign at all.


Would it help if I comforted you by saying this is all a figment of your imagination with no basis in reality


Would help if I comforted you by saying I was right and you were wrong. :lol:

Exactly like I told you how it would play out. Knicks will give an "update" in two weeks. No info on which grade of sprain it is. No recovery timetable, nothing. Could have just said nothing, would be the same. Randle playbook all over again.

I will further help you in giving you that 2-week update today so you don't hold your breath: "Brunson is showing progress on his sprained ankle and doing everything to be back for the playoffs. Whether he can make it or not is uncertain."

BTW with the severity of the sprain, even if he makes it back after 5 weeks the ankle will be unstable. Playing on it will carry a risk. For this to be properly healed to play playoff basketball without risks it will take a couple of months at the least. This season is over guys, like I told y'all.
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Post#523 » by prophet_of_rage » Sat Mar 8, 2025 3:52 pm

Guano wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
This is my biggest issue with Captain JB. He often takes the full 8 seconds and I don't get why.
He wants the ball. He's very selfish.

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Yes the guy who gave up 100m is vv selfish
Yes. His playstyle is very selfish.

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Post#524 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Mar 8, 2025 5:30 pm

Guano wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
This is my biggest issue with Captain JB. He often takes the full 8 seconds and I don't get why.
He wants the ball. He's very selfish.

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Yes the guy who gave up 100m is vv selfish


7th in the league in PPG and 8th in the entire league in assists. See how selfish he is? He scores more than he passes! :rofl:
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Post#525 » by spree8 » Sat Mar 8, 2025 8:30 pm

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Yeah, Lakers run a bunch of isos with guys standing around watching Luka and LeBron go your turn my turn. They don’t have some genius offense or genius coach, they just have guys who can do this

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wtf are you talking about bro?? The lakers are running a very sophisticated offense that involves extreme ball movement on every single possession. That video must be A.I


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Do you even watch the Lakers? Luka n LeBron are two of the best passers and highest IQ players of all time and it shows. Sure they’re gunna iso here n there, but to pretend that’s all they do or play your turn my turn is beyond wild and not based in reality. To try to use 1 of their iso plays to justify Thibs lack of an offense is criminal :nonono:

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Post#526 » by Guano » Sun Mar 9, 2025 12:33 am

prophet_of_rage wrote:
Guano wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:He wants the ball. He's very selfish.

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Yes the guy who gave up 100m is vv selfish
Yes. His playstyle is very selfish.

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You're an unserious poster - you spent time here defending elf and now youre talkin sht about Brunson
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Post#527 » by Chanel Bomber » Sun Mar 9, 2025 1:17 am

Guano wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:
Guano wrote:
Yes the guy who gave up 100m is vv selfish
Yes. His playstyle is very selfish.

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You're an unserious poster - you spent time here defending elf and now youre talkin sht about Brunson

Brunson is a great player but his game is indeed a bit selfish.

I don't think it's necessarily and in and of itself an indictment against him. Kobe was largely a selfish player.

But he does love the ball, and he is a scorer at heart. He doesn't organize an offense like a CP3 or move off the ball like a Curry. He's predominantly an isolation scorer who will occasionally playmake as a plan B.
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Post#528 » by prophet_of_rage » Sun Mar 9, 2025 2:04 am

Guano wrote:
prophet_of_rage wrote:
Guano wrote:
Yes the guy who gave up 100m is vv selfish
Yes. His playstyle is very selfish.

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You're an unserious poster - you spent time here defending elf and now youre talkin sht about Brunson
No, I'm a very serious poster. I'm a basketball mind looking at the problems with our team and its roster construction.

Jalen Brunson being a reluctant passer is a problem with this roster because nobody else can create without the ball. And Josh Hart is our next best ballhandler. We watch JB play heroball at his pace. Not good against the best teams or in a Thibs sysrem where the players do whatever they choose on offence. He has to play faster and get off the ball. Even on the end of regulation play. He drew two and spent an ectra second trying to split the double team before kicking to Josh who was a second late on his layup.

The season previous JB seldom passed to Mitch. He shoots first and second then gets off it third. Great player and his footwork is beautiful but he holds it too long. He has the ball in his hands 11 minutes a game. That's crazy.

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Post#529 » by prophet_of_rage » Sun Mar 9, 2025 2:04 am

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prophet_of_rage wrote:Yes. His playstyle is very selfish.

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You're an unserious poster - you spent time here defending elf and now youre talkin sht about Brunson

Brunson is a great player but his game is indeed a bit selfish.

I don't think it's necessarily and in and of itself an indictment against him. Kobe was largely a selfish player.

But he does love the ball, and he is a scorer at heart. He doesn't organize an offense like a CP3 or move off the ball like a Curry. He's predominantly an isolation scorer who will occasionally playmake as a plan B.
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Post#530 » by HEZI » Sun Mar 9, 2025 2:36 am

spree8 wrote:
HEZI wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
wtf are you talking about bro?? The lakers are running a very sophisticated offense that involves extreme ball movement on every single possession. That video must be A.I


Oh the ball is moving alright

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Do you even watch the Lakers? Luka n LeBron are two of the best passers and highest IQ players of all time and it shows. Sure they’re gunna iso here n there, but to pretend that’s all they do or play your turn my turn is beyond wild and not based in reality. To try to use 1 of their iso plays to justify Thibs lack of an offense is criminal :nonono:

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Yeah leaking out in transition and throwing touchdown passes is a testament to the sophisticated offense by JJ Reddick :lol: Do you see what the Lakers look like when plays aren’t made by Luka or LeBron? It’s a disaster. That’s not some great coaching, that’s just two generational talents who can make plays with the ball doing just that. Both big forwards that can handle like guards and score from triple threat that demand double teams and have the IQ plus ability to read a defense and make touchdown passes, skip passes, no look dimes and so on. There is no system, they are the system. It’s my turn your turn and that doesn’t mean shoot every time but that is who they go through every time. You confuse great plays made by great players for some great coaching strategy
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Re: PG Knicks/Lakers 

Post#531 » by spree8 » Sun Mar 9, 2025 3:18 am

HEZI wrote:
spree8 wrote:
HEZI wrote:
Oh the ball is moving alright

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Do you even watch the Lakers? Luka n LeBron are two of the best passers and highest IQ players of all time and it shows. Sure they’re gunna iso here n there, but to pretend that’s all they do or play your turn my turn is beyond wild and not based in reality. To try to use 1 of their iso plays to justify Thibs lack of an offense is criminal :nonono:

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Yeah leaking out in transition and throwing touchdown passes is a testament to the sophisticated offense by JJ Reddick :lol: Do you see what the Lakers look like when plays aren’t made by Luka or LeBron? It’s a disaster. That’s not some great coaching, that’s just two generational talents who can make plays with the ball doing just that. Both big forwards that can handle like guards and score from triple threat that demand double teams and have the IQ plus ability to read a defense and make touchdown passes, skip passes, no look dimes and so on. There is no system, they are the system. It’s my turn your turn and that doesn’t mean shoot every time but that is who they go through every time. You confuse great plays made by great players for some great coaching strategy



Dude you specifically said “the lakers run a bunch of iso’s with guys standing around watching Luka and LeBron go your turn my turn” which is so…wrong lol.

Now you’re backpedaling and admitting they’re ATG’s that “can handle like guards and score from triple threat that demand double teams and have the IQ plus ability to read a defense and make touchdown passes, skip passes, no look dimes and so on”….so it’s not just iso and a bunch of guys standing around?

As far as “your turn my turn” how is that the case when they are playing so well off each other? My turn your turn is more like Jaylen Brown and Tatum, not Luka n Lebron who play like the damn Globetrotters with each other. That couldn’t be further from the truth. Luka throwing outlet passes isn’t a testament to Redicks system as much as it is an indictment on you for saying they just play your turn my turn iso ball. And you think those plays aren’t by design? Lebron leaking out like that with Luka grabbing the boards and looking for him immediately after?

It’s weird to make false claims about a team only to use it to defend Thibs. Knocking JJ Redick doesn’t make sense either. One minute you’re blasting the entire team’s style and saying it’s just iso and then the next you’re crediting the two superstars they have and highlighting their IQ and passing abilities (a direct contradiction to iso ball) and using that to take credit away from Redick. Seems like you’re just grasping at straws to defend Thibs. Nasty work
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Post#532 » by HEZI » Sun Mar 9, 2025 3:31 am

:evil:
spree8 wrote:
HEZI wrote:
spree8 wrote:

Do you even watch the Lakers? Luka n LeBron are two of the best passers and highest IQ players of all time and it shows. Sure they’re gunna iso here n there, but to pretend that’s all they do or play your turn my turn is beyond wild and not based in reality. To try to use 1 of their iso plays to justify Thibs lack of an offense is criminal :nonono:

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Yeah leaking out in transition and throwing touchdown passes is a testament to the sophisticated offense by JJ Reddick :lol: Do you see what the Lakers look like when plays aren’t made by Luka or LeBron? It’s a disaster. That’s not some great coaching, that’s just two generational talents who can make plays with the ball doing just that. Both big forwards that can handle like guards and score from triple threat that demand double teams and have the IQ plus ability to read a defense and make touchdown passes, skip passes, no look dimes and so on. There is no system, they are the system. It’s my turn your turn and that doesn’t mean shoot every time but that is who they go through every time. You confuse great plays made by great players for some great coaching strategy



Dude you specifically said “the lakers run a bunch of iso’s with guys standing around watching Luka and LeBron go your turn my turn” which is so…wrong lol.

Now you’re backpedaling and admitting they’re ATG’s that “can handle like guards and score from triple threat that demand double teams and have the IQ plus ability to read a defense and make touchdown passes, skip passes, no look dimes and so on”….so it’s not just iso and a bunch of guys standing around?

As far as “your turn my turn” how is that the case when they are playing so well off each other? My turn your turn is more like Jaylen Brown and Tatum, not Luka n Lebron who play like the damn Globetrotters with each other. That couldn’t be further from the truth. Luka throwing outlet passes isn’t a testament to Redicks system as much as it is an indictment on you for saying they just play your turn my turn iso ball. And you think those plays aren’t by design? Lebron leaking out like that with Luka grabbing the boards and looking for him immediately after?

It’s weird to make false claims about a team only to use it to defend Thibs. Knocking JJ Redick doesn’t make sense either. One minute you’re blasting the entire team’s style and saying it’s just iso and then the next you’re crediting the two superstars they have and highlighting their IQ and passing abilities (a direct contradiction to iso ball) and using that to take credit away from Redick. Seems like you’re just grasping at straws to defend Thibs. Nasty work


Are you watching the game right now? That’s literally what they are doing and these other dudes trying to create a shot when needed has turned into a blooper reel :lol:

Dudes shooting off the side of the rim, throwing the ball into the backcourt with nobody even there, missing wide open transition layups. What is this? This is your great coaching lmao
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Post#533 » by spree8 » Sun Mar 9, 2025 3:41 am

HEZI wrote::evil:
spree8 wrote:
HEZI wrote:
Yeah leaking out in transition and throwing touchdown passes is a testament to the sophisticated offense by JJ Reddick :lol: Do you see what the Lakers look like when plays aren’t made by Luka or LeBron? It’s a disaster. That’s not some great coaching, that’s just two generational talents who can make plays with the ball doing just that. Both big forwards that can handle like guards and score from triple threat that demand double teams and have the IQ plus ability to read a defense and make touchdown passes, skip passes, no look dimes and so on. There is no system, they are the system. It’s my turn your turn and that doesn’t mean shoot every time but that is who they go through every time. You confuse great plays made by great players for some great coaching strategy



Dude you specifically said “the lakers run a bunch of iso’s with guys standing around watching Luka and LeBron go your turn my turn” which is so…wrong lol.

Now you’re backpedaling and admitting they’re ATG’s that “can handle like guards and score from triple threat that demand double teams and have the IQ plus ability to read a defense and make touchdown passes, skip passes, no look dimes and so on”….so it’s not just iso and a bunch of guys standing around?

As far as “your turn my turn” how is that the case when they are playing so well off each other? My turn your turn is more like Jaylen Brown and Tatum, not Luka n Lebron who play like the damn Globetrotters with each other. That couldn’t be further from the truth. Luka throwing outlet passes isn’t a testament to Redicks system as much as it is an indictment on you for saying they just play your turn my turn iso ball. And you think those plays aren’t by design? Lebron leaking out like that with Luka grabbing the boards and looking for him immediately after?

It’s weird to make false claims about a team only to use it to defend Thibs. Knocking JJ Redick doesn’t make sense either. One minute you’re blasting the entire team’s style and saying it’s just iso and then the next you’re crediting the two superstars they have and highlighting their IQ and passing abilities (a direct contradiction to iso ball) and using that to take credit away from Redick. Seems like you’re just grasping at straws to defend Thibs. Nasty work


Are you watching the game right now? That’s literally what they are doing and these other dudes trying to create a shot when needed has turned into a blooper reel :lol:

Dudes shooting off the side of the rim, throwing the ball into the backcourt with nobody even there, missing wide open transition layups. What is this? This is your great coaching lmao



Now you’re moving the goalposts and spotlighting the below average role players? And you’re putting words in my mouth about that being great coaching? I never even gave an opinion on their coaching lol wtf?
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Post#534 » by HEZI » Sun Mar 9, 2025 4:07 am

spree8 wrote:
HEZI wrote::evil:
spree8 wrote:

Dude you specifically said “the lakers run a bunch of iso’s with guys standing around watching Luka and LeBron go your turn my turn” which is so…wrong lol.

Now you’re backpedaling and admitting they’re ATG’s that “can handle like guards and score from triple threat that demand double teams and have the IQ plus ability to read a defense and make touchdown passes, skip passes, no look dimes and so on”….so it’s not just iso and a bunch of guys standing around?

As far as “your turn my turn” how is that the case when they are playing so well off each other? My turn your turn is more like Jaylen Brown and Tatum, not Luka n Lebron who play like the damn Globetrotters with each other. That couldn’t be further from the truth. Luka throwing outlet passes isn’t a testament to Redicks system as much as it is an indictment on you for saying they just play your turn my turn iso ball. And you think those plays aren’t by design? Lebron leaking out like that with Luka grabbing the boards and looking for him immediately after?

It’s weird to make false claims about a team only to use it to defend Thibs. Knocking JJ Redick doesn’t make sense either. One minute you’re blasting the entire team’s style and saying it’s just iso and then the next you’re crediting the two superstars they have and highlighting their IQ and passing abilities (a direct contradiction to iso ball) and using that to take credit away from Redick. Seems like you’re just grasping at straws to defend Thibs. Nasty work


Are you watching the game right now? That’s literally what they are doing and these other dudes trying to create a shot when needed has turned into a blooper reel :lol:

Dudes shooting off the side of the rim, throwing the ball into the backcourt with nobody even there, missing wide open transition layups. What is this? This is your great coaching lmao



Now you’re moving the goalposts and spotlighting the below average role players? And you’re putting words in my mouth about that being great coaching? I never even gave an opinion on their coaching lol wtf?


So what exactly do their below average role players do exactly when they aren’t watching your turn my turn offense with LeBron and Luka? They stand in the corner, stay in the dunkers spot or cut depending on their role. They create nothing for Luka or Lebron or the others because Luka and Lebron are the system. What are you even arguing here?
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Post#535 » by spree8 » Sun Mar 9, 2025 4:20 am

HEZI wrote:
spree8 wrote:
HEZI wrote::evil:

Are you watching the game right now? That’s literally what they are doing and these other dudes trying to create a shot when needed has turned into a blooper reel :lol:

Dudes shooting off the side of the rim, throwing the ball into the backcourt with nobody even there, missing wide open transition layups. What is this? This is your great coaching lmao



Now you’re moving the goalposts and spotlighting the below average role players? And you’re putting words in my mouth about that being great coaching? I never even gave an opinion on their coaching lol wtf?


So what exactly do their below average role players do exactly when they aren’t watching your turn my turn offense with LeBron and Luka? They stand in the corner, stay in the dunkers spot or cut depending on their role. They create nothing for Luka or Lebron or the others because Luka and Lebron are the system. What are you even arguing here?



I don’t know how much more clear I can make what I’m arguing. No wonder you defend Thibs to the death… you’re just as hard headed as he is lol
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Post#536 » by HEZI » Sun Mar 9, 2025 4:51 am

spree8 wrote:
HEZI wrote:
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Now you’re moving the goalposts and spotlighting the below average role players? And you’re putting words in my mouth about that being great coaching? I never even gave an opinion on their coaching lol wtf?


So what exactly do their below average role players do exactly when they aren’t watching your turn my turn offense with LeBron and Luka? They stand in the corner, stay in the dunkers spot or cut depending on their role. They create nothing for Luka or Lebron or the others because Luka and Lebron are the system. What are you even arguing here?



I don’t know how much more clear I can make what I’m arguing. No wonder you defend Thibs to the death… you’re just as hard headed as he is lol


If you were clear or made sense I wouldn’t have asked you the questions which you chose to ignore but you rather deflect to Thibs like you do each time since that’s your only way out
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Re: PG Knicks/Lakers 

Post#537 » by spree8 » Sun Mar 9, 2025 5:04 am

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So what exactly do their below average role players do exactly when they aren’t watching your turn my turn offense with LeBron and Luka? They stand in the corner, stay in the dunkers spot or cut depending on their role. They create nothing for Luka or Lebron or the others because Luka and Lebron are the system. What are you even arguing here?



I don’t know how much more clear I can make what I’m arguing. No wonder you defend Thibs to the death… you’re just as hard headed as he is lol


If you were clear or made sense I wouldn’t have asked you the questions which you chose to ignore but you rather deflect to Thibs like you do each time since that’s your only way out



Wtf is wrong with you? Go back and re-read every post I made. Start from the beginning. I held your hand and spelt it all out it for you while you kept backpedaling and moving the goalposts. The fact that you’re accusing me of deflecting and ignoring is fukkin hilarious :lol:
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Re: PG Knicks/Lakers 

Post#538 » by Guano » Sun Mar 9, 2025 6:12 am

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prophet_of_rage wrote:Yes. His playstyle is very selfish.

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You're an unserious poster - you spent time here defending elf and now youre talkin sht about Brunson

Brunson is a great player but his game is indeed a bit selfish.

I don't think it's necessarily and in and of itself an indictment against him. Kobe was largely a selfish player.

But he does love the ball, and he is a scorer at heart. He doesn't organize an offense like a CP3 or move off the ball like a Curry. He's predominantly an isolation scorer who will occasionally playmake as a plan B.


Words matter - He isn't a selfish hooper. That's for chuckers who hurt their team. Brunson ability to score isn't selfish.

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Re: PG Knicks/Lakers 

Post#539 » by HEZI » Sun Mar 9, 2025 10:47 am

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I don’t know how much more clear I can make what I’m arguing. No wonder you defend Thibs to the death… you’re just as hard headed as he is lol


If you were clear or made sense I wouldn’t have asked you the questions which you chose to ignore but you rather deflect to Thibs like you do each time since that’s your only way out



Wtf is wrong with you? Go back and re-read every post I made. Start from the beginning. I held your hand and spelt it all out it for you while you kept backpedaling and moving the goalposts. The fact that you’re accusing me of deflecting and ignoring is fukkin hilarious :lol:


You should try watching a Lakers game and not YouTube mixtapes. This is who Doncic and Lebron have been for years, anybody who has watched them is familiar with their game and what they like to do so nobody is surprised that they play a my turn your turn type of offense. This has been Doncic game since Dallas. JJ Reddick isn’t implementing any offense, he’s just telling his main two guys to go out there and make plays.

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Post#540 » by prophet_of_rage » Sun Mar 9, 2025 1:07 pm

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You're an unserious poster - you spent time here defending elf and now youre talkin sht about Brunson

Brunson is a great player but his game is indeed a bit selfish.

I don't think it's necessarily and in and of itself an indictment against him. Kobe was largely a selfish player.

But he does love the ball, and he is a scorer at heart. He doesn't organize an offense like a CP3 or move off the ball like a Curry. He's predominantly an isolation scorer who will occasionally playmake as a plan B.


Words matter - He isn't a selfish hooper. That's for chuckers who hurt their team. Brunson ability to score isn't selfish.

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That isn't true. Michael Jordan was selfish. That's why he needed Scottie. Kobe was selfish. That's why he needed Odom. Brunson is selfish and we need a ballmover better than Josh Hart if we want to win. JB is the reason we don't see a KAT p n r. Thibs isn't calling plays like that on the side. Brunson wants it. That's why Hart is usually setting screens for him.

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