3ammy3uck3ts wrote:powerball1373 wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Herros just not very good, it seemed he was taking a leap to start the season but that is looking more and more like a hot streak. I’ve never been high on him, I’m not even pretending to be but I was excited at the thought of him taking a leap because he’s on my favorite team, unfortunately he’s just the same player he’s always been, at least he’s able to stay healthy now though I guess. Nothing passive aggressive about it and I’m not pretending anything.
No he doesn’t have to put up Steph numbers but he does have to be efficient, especially when he’s only paid to score and plays little to no defense, that’s just the reality of it and yes I was harping on him tonight because he was making several horrible decisions throughout the course of the game and very costly ones with the game on the line.
I don’t think Bam played great tonight either but I don’t think he was making horrible decision after horrible decision, especially down the stretch.
Herro is to you what Bam is to me, when I criticize Herro you’re always right there to defend (with others)
So, after all that, you finally admit you’ve never been high on Herro and aren’t pretending otherwise. Cool, glad we got that established. But that kinda makes your whole “I don’t enjoy players on my team playing bad” defense sound weak, doesn’t it? Because let’s be real—you don’t just criticize Herro when he plays badly, you actively look for ways to downplay him even when he plays well.
And this “he doesn’t have to put up Steph numbers, but he has to be efficient” take is hilarious. Bam has had plenty of inefficient games, especially when he settles for jumpers instead of attacking, but I don’t see you harping on those the way you do with Herro. In fact, you just said Bam didn’t play great tonight, but your whole takeaway was ‘at least he wasn’t making horrible decisions.’ That’s the perfect example of the double standard.
Also, “Herro is to you what Bam is to me”—nah, that’s not it. I don’t mind criticism when it’s fair. But when you constantly move the goalposts and only hold one player accountable while making excuses for another, people are gonna push back. And let’s be honest, the reason I (and others) point it out is because if we didn’t, you’d be acting like Bam is flawless and Herro is some unplayable liability.
At the end of the day, nobody is saying Herro is a superstar. But if you’re gonna keep nitpicking every little thing he does while treating Bam with kid gloves, don’t be surprised when people start exposing the bias.
I’ve never been super high on Herro, this is known. It doesn’t hurt my “I don’t like players on my team playing bad” defense. Just because I’m not high on the dude doesn’t mean I want to watch him play like **** and watch us lose.
There’s a difference, Herro is paid to be a scorer. Thats literally why he is making the same amount of money as Bam and he is a god awful defender. At least when Bam is having a bad shooting night he’s still the best defensive player in the world and is also freeing up others with screens, etc. so yes if Herro isn’t scoring efficiently I will be critical of him because that’s our main priority for him.
Nah it definitely is, you don’t have an issue with anything I say until it involves Herro.
You turned this into Bam vs Herro, not me lol. I was responding to a Wiggins fans post about Tyler giving him some insight on who Tyler is as a player and was pretty spot on in everything I said, but you can debunk it if you’d like and we can go that route? You keep bringing up Bam, this is a discussion on Tyler and how he keeps hijacking the offense in the clutch and getting his ish tossed or airballing 3s leading to big buckets for opposing teams. You haven’t clapped back at anyone criticizing Terry.
So you’ve “never been super high on Herro,” but also claim that doesn’t affect how you judge him? Come on. You literally just admitted that if Herro isn’t scoring efficiently, you’re going to be extra critical because that’s his main role. Meanwhile, Bam can have bad scoring nights, and it’s all good because of defense and screening? That’s exactly the double standard people are calling out.
And let’s be real—if you were actually just “giving insight” to a Wiggins fan, you wouldn’t be this defensive about it. You weren’t just explaining Herro’s game, you were pushing a negative narrative because it fits what you already believe about him. That’s fine, but don’t act like you’re just out here providing neutral analysis.
Also, nobody turned this into Bam vs. Herro except you. You keep bringing up how Bam is paid the same as Herro and justifying why his bad nights don’t matter as much. That’s the comparison, not me. And funny how you’re suddenly saying this is only about Herro, but earlier you were calling out people for defending him and saying “Herro is to you what Bam is to me.” So which is it?
As for the clutch shot selection stuff—yeah, Herro has had bad late-game moments. But again, who else is supposed to be taking those shots? Wiggins? Terry? It’s not “hijacking” the offense when you’re literally the best available option. If anything, the team’s issue is lack of structure in crunch time, not Herro deciding to take the same shots he’s always taken.
And let’s not pretend you care about consistency—you’re not clapping back at anyone criticizing Bam’s offense either. The reason I push back on your takes is because they’re one-sided. You pretend you’re just being fair, but in reality, Herro only gets slander from you, while Bam gets excuses. That’s why people call it out.
So yeah, I’ll “debunk” what you said: you frame Herro’s mistakes as proof that he’s a net negative, while you frame Bam’s struggles as a product of circumstances. That’s bias, plain and simple.
