2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 8

[MettaWorldPanda]

Still think KD alone would move mountains for the team and then we can evaluate who the final piece of that build would be after seeing it in action but I won’t hold my breathe with this FO.

Except Jimmy > KD, yes maybe not talent or scoring wise, but when comes to impacting winning.
Trading for KD and giving up more assets is a really bad idea, a Bam/KD/Herro core isn't getting you past the ECF.

I rather not spend more assets to keep building teams that only have a punchers chance at best.

Love Jimmy but I disagree and even if that were the case it’s marginal at best. Trust me, I wish the talks were about adding KD to a Jimmy/Bam core but unfortunately that’s not the case. You all know better than to think this FO is going to blow it up though, they’re going to want a big fish this summer and that urgency will become even higher when we miss the playoffs and give up those unprotected picks to OKC and Charlotte. KD is the first piece, then you need another. Just like how we needed another when we had Jimmy, that doesn’t change

Bammy this idea is going to be hard to execute due to the cap. Durant is going to command 60 million just by himself. There won’t be another coinciding move. We have to split that 60 million in expiring into multiple players and hope the draft blesses us with a special talent. This group is not good enough for a Bam, Durant, and Herro build maxing most of the cap. This is why they had to let go of Butler.

[SA37]

Spo has to face the demon called alopecia and just shave it off. He’s gonna look like Tom Thibodeau in a couple years.

It's just a big part He can still hang on for a good while longer. What he definitely needs, though is more sleep.

https://youtu.be/OzRc36imSCc?t=260

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Except Jimmy > KD, yes maybe not talent or scoring wise, but when comes to impacting winning.
Trading for KD and giving up more assets is a really bad idea, a Bam/KD/Herro core isn't getting you past the ECF.

I rather not spend more assets to keep building teams that only have a punchers chance at best.

Love Jimmy but I disagree and even if that were the case it’s marginal at best. Trust me, I wish the talks were about adding KD to a Jimmy/Bam core but unfortunately that’s not the case. You all know better than to think this FO is going to blow it up though, they’re going to want a big fish this summer and that urgency will become even higher when we miss the playoffs and give up those unprotected picks to OKC and Charlotte. KD is the first piece, then you need another. Just like how we needed another when we had Jimmy, that doesn’t change

Bammy this idea is going to be hard to execute due to the cap. Durant is going to command 60 million just by himself. There won’t be another coinciding move. We have to split that 60 million in expiring into multiple players and hope the draft blesses us with a special talent. This group is not good enough for a Bam, Durant, and Herro build maxing most of the cap. This is why they had to let go of Butler.

The move after that probably includes Herro and Wiggins or whatever with whatever type of assets we have going out for a legit 3rd guy to pair next Bam/KD, or at least that should be the plan after landing KD. That could be as early as the same summer or it might be a 1 year bridge and the move happens in the summer of 2026. I would prefer we sell high with him coming off the all star appearance this year but the right move might not be out there this summer for that

I have no idea what the plan is but if it’s not to blow it up (highly unlikely with this FO) we both know for a fact they’re going to go after KD. What they’re willing to give and what KDs desires are remain to be seen

[TroubleS0me]

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[unowen85]

It’s unfortunate that some “Heat” fans will watch this clip, the turning point of the game, and then try to pin the loss all on one player. Sad.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Can’t post this stuff without context Twix, some “Heat” fans will see this and think it was the turning point of the game while failing to realize we actually had a bigger lead later in the 4th quarter where the actual turning point of the game took place

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Watch Kam Jones play. He’s like a baby Harden. Would be a great pick here and will push Herro day one.

[twix2500]

It’s unfortunate that some “Heat” fans will watch this clip, the turning point of the game, and then try to pin the loss all on one player. Sad.

Bulls played like trash and still won.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

It’s unfortunate that some “Heat” fans will watch this clip, the turning point of the game, and then try to pin the loss all on one player. Sad.

Bulls played like trash and still won.

What do you think Twix? When you were watching outside of the horrible decision making of some players did it seem like the Bulls were the better coached team to you? Who is most at fault for blowing all these massive leads?

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Point blank this is a team that doesn't have a #1, and also doesn't have enough talent to make up for lacking a true #1. It is what it is. The definition of NBA mediocrity/treadmill.

I still have small hopes there is another level for Tyler, but assuming he is nearing his ceiling, either the team needs to figure out an identity that masks the flaws, gamble the future for an aging #1 guy, or accept a couple non contending seasons finally. I think #3 is the best option considering risk/reward, but knowing this organization it will probably be #2, we'll push all our chips in for KD, and by midseason next year people are going to be talking about firing Riley/Spo and moving Bam. We'll see but hard not to be a bit down.

[twix2500]

It’s unfortunate that some “Heat” fans will watch this clip, the turning point of the game, and then try to pin the loss all on one player. Sad.

Bulls played like trash and still won.

What do you think Twix? When you were watching outside of the horrible decision making of some players did it seem like the Bulls were the better coached team to you? Who is most at fault for blowing all these massive leads?

Naw it wasnt some wonderful scheme the Bulls played. It was just the players not thinking at all. The Bulls didnt run any special scheme that allowed them to just get easy fast break points off of rebounds. At least 8 pts from just rebounding and dribbling straight to the rim for a LAYUP. At the very least you foul him hard so he will be reluctant the next time. But no, it was easy the first time and they just keep doing it.

The Heat should have won just off pure talent. But the problem I see is Wiggins, Bam and Herro do not know how to play together at the end of games. A lot has to do with not having a veteran point guard like Dru who can yell out to players the rotations. Putting Rozier out their just makes it worse because he has the worse chemistry with his teammates. His teammates do not really trust him and opponents know this.


3d dice animation

We witness chemistry with Mitchell and Robinson. So even thou there may not be a great vocal director, but their some natural chemistry without words.

This is the type of attention you want defenders to give your stars. This is from pure lack of experience at being a go too player. Bam is still learning when he has to take the shot and when to pass. If Spo simply put Robinson inplace of Rozier, the defense is not fully collapsing like that and give Bam more room to work if he gonna take the shot regardless.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Bulls played like trash and still won.

What do you think Twix? When you were watching outside of the horrible decision making of some players did it seem like the Bulls were the better coached team to you? Who is most at fault for blowing all these massive leads?

Naw it wasnt some wonderful scheme the Bulls played. It was just the players not thinking at all. The Bulls didnt run any special scheme that allowed them to just get easy fast break points off of rebounds. At least 8 pts from just rebounding and dribbling straight to the rim for a LAYUP. At the very least you foul him hard so he will be reluctant the next time. But no, it was easy the first time and they just keep doing it.

The Heat should have won just off pure talent. But the problem I see is Wiggins, Bam and Herro do not know how to play together at the end of games. A lot has to do with not having a veteran point guard like Dru who can yell out to players the rotations. Putting Rozier out their just makes it worse because he has the worse chemistry with his teammates. His teammates do not really trust him and opponents know this.


3d dice animation

We witness chemistry with Mitchell and Robinson. So even thou there may not be a great vocal director, but their some natural chemistry without words.

This is the type of attention you want defenders to give your stars. This is from pure lack of experience at being a go too player. Bam is still learning when he has to take the shot and when to pass. If Spo simply put Robinson inplace of Rozier, the defense is not fully collapsing like that and give Bam more room to work if he gonna take the shot regardless.

I called this one out in the GT, he should’ve sold the contact on this one and flopped.

[twix2500]

What do you think Twix? When you were watching outside of the horrible decision making of some players did it seem like the Bulls were the better coached team to you? Who is most at fault for blowing all these massive leads?

Naw it wasnt some wonderful scheme the Bulls played. It was just the players not thinking at all. The Bulls didnt run any special scheme that allowed them to just get easy fast break points off of rebounds. At least 8 pts from just rebounding and dribbling straight to the rim for a LAYUP. At the very least you foul him hard so he will be reluctant the next time. But no, it was easy the first time and they just keep doing it.

The Heat should have won just off pure talent. But the problem I see is Wiggins, Bam and Herro do not know how to play together at the end of games. A lot has to do with not having a veteran point guard like Dru who can yell out to players the rotations. Putting Rozier out their just makes it worse because he has the worse chemistry with his teammates. His teammates do not really trust him and opponents know this.


3d dice animation

We witness chemistry with Mitchell and Robinson. So even thou there may not be a great vocal director, but their some natural chemistry without words.

This is the type of attention you want defenders to give your stars. This is from pure lack of experience at being a go too player. Bam is still learning when he has to take the shot and when to pass. If Spo simply put Robinson inplace of Rozier, the defense is not fully collapsing like that and give Bam more room to work if he gonna take the shot regardless.

I called this one out in the GT, he should’ve sold the contact on this one and flopped.

Look at this, Rozier is suppose to be a PnR guard. He had a pnr on the weak side with Bam and couldnt communicate to run and gave up on it. Who was he scared of? Is White Gary Payton? is Giddy Ron Artest? Or is Smith Motumbo showing he gonna help on the weakside. There is not one player the Bulls had on the court that Rozier should have been scared to run PnR with on with Bam. But he gives up on the clear as day mismatch and swings the ball to the defense strong side with time running out and luckily Wiggins had the balls to make the tough shot.

Like really F*&K Smith. No NBA player should be scare of Smith protecting the paint. That should be BBQ chicken. I tell you what Duncan none ball handling ass would of ran that pick n roll.

Literally any coach should be acting like Bobby Knight at the end of that game.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Naw it wasnt some wonderful scheme the Bulls played. It was just the players not thinking at all. The Bulls didnt run any special scheme that allowed them to just get easy fast break points off of rebounds. At least 8 pts from just rebounding and dribbling straight to the rim for a LAYUP. At the very least you foul him hard so he will be reluctant the next time. But no, it was easy the first time and they just keep doing it.

The Heat should have won just off pure talent. But the problem I see is Wiggins, Bam and Herro do not know how to play together at the end of games. A lot has to do with not having a veteran point guard like Dru who can yell out to players the rotations. Putting Rozier out their just makes it worse because he has the worse chemistry with his teammates. His teammates do not really trust him and opponents know this.


3d dice animation

We witness chemistry with Mitchell and Robinson. So even thou there may not be a great vocal director, but their some natural chemistry without words.

This is the type of attention you want defenders to give your stars. This is from pure lack of experience at being a go too player. Bam is still learning when he has to take the shot and when to pass. If Spo simply put Robinson inplace of Rozier, the defense is not fully collapsing like that and give Bam more room to work if he gonna take the shot regardless.

I called this one out in the GT, he should’ve sold the contact on this one and flopped.

Look at this, Rozier is suppose to be a PnR guard. He had a pnr on the weak side with Bam and couldnt communicate to run and gave up on it. Who was he scared of? Is White Gary Payton? is Giddy Ron Artest? Or is Smith Motumbo showing he gonna help on the weakside. There is not one player the Bulls had on the court that Rozier should have been scared to run PnR with on with Bam. But he gives up on the clear as day mismatch and swings the ball to the defense strong side with time running out and luckily Wiggins had the balls to make the tough shot.

Like really F*&K Smith. No NBA player should be scare of Smith protecting the paint. That should be BBQ chicken.

I think Terrys more scared of himself at this point than anyone else lol

[twix2500]

I called this one out in the GT, he should’ve sold the contact on this one and flopped.

Look at this, Rozier is suppose to be a PnR guard. He had a pnr on the weak side with Bam and couldnt communicate to run and gave up on it. Who was he scared of? Is White Gary Payton? is Giddy Ron Artest? Or is Smith Motumbo showing he gonna help on the weakside. There is not one player the Bulls had on the court that Rozier should have been scared to run PnR with on with Bam. But he gives up on the clear as day mismatch and swings the ball to the defense strong side with time running out and luckily Wiggins had the balls to make the tough shot.

Like really F*&K Smith. No NBA player should be scare of Smith protecting the paint. That should be BBQ chicken.

I think Terrys more scared of himself at this point than anyone else lol

Bam looks so confuse about what Rozier is talking about. lol

[DayofMourning]

Was reading somewhere that Miami has lost 16 double digit leads this year.

Dang. Wed be one of the best teams in the league if we werent so great at losing.

[carnageta]

Just disappointing to see that a core of Tyler Herro and Bam Adebayo can't even win 40 games in a weak eastern conference. I was under the impression that with Bam and Tyler as the 'cornerstone' pieces we'd at least be a respectable 7th seed every year.

[carnageta]

Fk it, trade the farm for KD this summer.

Herro/KD/Bam/Kel'el.

[marson]

Just disappointing to see that a core of Tyler Herro and Bam Adebayo can't even win 40 games in a weak eastern conference. I was under the impression that with Bam and Tyler as the 'cornerstone' pieces we'd at least be a respectable 7th seed every year.

Both players are either the third option or, at best, the second option on a championship-caliber team. Neither has the consistent ability to get to the line or create plays for teammates to generate open looks, like Luka or Jokic can.

I've mentioned this in other threads: the team should go full OKC rebuild mode, tank, and eventually sell high on Bam and Herro as part of the long-term strategy.

The reality is they won't win a championship with them as the cornerstone of the team.

[DayofMourning]

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=most+double+team+player+per+possession+2024-2025

Herro faces the 13th most double teams in the league. Sounds about right.