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Who do you want us to take at #3?

Ace Bailey
34
45%
V.J. Edgecombe
20
27%
Kon Knueppel
3
4%
Khaman Maluach
1
1%
Tre Johnson
14
19%
Derik Queen
3
4%
 
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Re: 2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft 

Post#381 » by Iverson Armband » Wed Mar 5, 2025 4:05 pm

Mik317 wrote:Fultz and Ben makes me weary of guys who don't win in college. I may be an old man now lol.

Fultz and Ben shouldn’t be compared IMO. Two different circumstances.
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Post#382 » by Arsenal » Wed Mar 5, 2025 4:11 pm

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I like Tre #3 overall behind only Flagg and Harper. Looks to have #1 offensive option potential, along with great positional size.
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Post#383 » by sodmoraes » Wed Mar 5, 2025 5:02 pm

Tre johnson seems like a real good player, and a better passer than Maxey and has size so he would complement Maxey well on the backcourt. But if Bailey would still be there i think we probably would take him . We have a nice backcourt with Maxey and Mccain( and grimes if we can sign him) so i think we would probably go with Bailey( he has a lot of potential even more than Tre). If we can pass Toronto in the tank wars, and keep the Nets at bay, i have a feeling we will get a top 3 pick.

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Post#384 » by Negrodamus » Wed Mar 5, 2025 5:12 pm

I won't be broken up if we land Tre in the draft, but I'm still off on him. He's obviously an insane shotmaker but he is targeted on defense. The end of the game last night should have been an cakewalk but Texas, especially Tre, couldn't defend a soul, so they gave up a ton of points. If you can't defend anyone, then it's hard to keep you on the court in the NBA.
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Post#385 » by Negrodamus » Wed Mar 5, 2025 5:28 pm

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Liam and Flagg look the same size. Queen appears taller than them; his shoulders are definitely above the other two. If Flagg is 6'9, Queen is a solid 6'10.
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Post#386 » by Mik317 » Wed Mar 5, 2025 6:07 pm

again feels like a lot comes down to how these guys actually measure out

the current NBA is "positionless" sure but even if the eventual endgame for us is trading Maxey or McCain, you still don't want another tiny building block in general.

I feel like the new wave is going to be a team full of LEGIT 6'6 -6'9 athletes who can shoot imo...and just bomb away from 3 and switch like crazy on defense
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Post#387 » by Negrodamus » Wed Mar 5, 2025 6:21 pm

Mik317 wrote:again feels like a lot comes down to how these guys actually measure out

the current NBA is "positionless" sure but even if the eventual endgame for us is trading Maxey or McCain, you still don't want another tiny building block in general.

I feel like the new wave is going to be a team full of LEGIT 6'6 -6'9 athletes who can shoot imo...and just bomb away from 3 and switch like crazy on defense


I regret to inform everyone that I'm getting the same annoying feeling about Queen that I had about Donovan Mitchell, so I'm just going to keep validating why he'd be good for us until we either don't get the pick or until draft day.
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Post#388 » by Mik317 » Wed Mar 5, 2025 7:00 pm

well that probably takes Queen off of the Sixers board then sadly
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Post#389 » by Iverson Armband » Wed Mar 5, 2025 7:06 pm

Just take the best player, figure the rest out later. Teams getting cute is how we ended up with Maxey and McCain. Don’t be those teams.
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Post#390 » by 76ciology » Thu Mar 6, 2025 1:06 am

Negrodamus wrote:Image

Liam and Flagg look the same size. Queen appears taller than them; his shoulders are definitely above the other two. If Flagg is 6'9, Queen is a solid 6'10.


I thought it was Justin Edwards :)
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Post#391 » by 76ciology » Thu Mar 6, 2025 1:25 am

sodmoraes wrote:Tre johnson seems like a real good player, and a better passer than Maxey and has size so he would complement Maxey well on the backcourt. But if Bailey would still be there i think we probably would take him . We have a nice backcourt with Maxey and Mccain( and grimes if we can sign him) so i think we would probably go with Bailey( he has a lot of potential even more than Tre). If we can pass Toronto in the tank wars, and keep the Nets at bay, i have a feeling we will get a top 3 pick.

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The only way I see us drafting Bailey over Tre is if we plan to use him as a trade asset.

I can see Morey valuing him the same way he did with Rudy Gay or Jeremy Lamb.
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Post#392 » by 76ciology » Thu Mar 6, 2025 1:27 am

Kobblehead wrote:I think there's going to be exponential imrpovement from Saluan next year. He's already a better rebounder and passer than he projected to be. Obviously his shooting numbers are bad right now, but him being willing and fearless to let it sling is way more important at this point of his career.

Need shooters with size that can't be exploited defensively in a playoff series. That's where Saluan outclasses all the guys projected at #6.


One guy you probably can take that chance with is Ousmane Dieng. Where OKC does the deal for cap reasons (longer rookie contract).
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Post#393 » by 76ciology » Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:40 am

I think it’s now safe to say im right with Ware and Flipowski on last year’s draft.
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Post#394 » by Negrodamus » Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:01 am

76ciology wrote:I think it’s now safe to say im right with Ware and Flipowski on last year’s draft.


Yep, still young prospects with huge outputs. Produced quality stocks while putting up big offensive numbers. Rebounders also always translate.
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Post#395 » by Mik317 » Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:29 pm

both fell due to off the court things IIRC.
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Post#396 » by Negrodamus » Mon Mar 10, 2025 3:26 pm

Will Riley is going to move up into the first round if he keeps playing like he has over the past 11 games. He still scares me as a prospect since he's a zero on defense, but you can't deny his creation ability for his size. Gotta be under consideration from late lottery to the end of the first round.
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Post#397 » by Negrodamus » Mon Mar 10, 2025 4:22 pm

The international prospects in this draft are really bad which is really killing the overall value of the draft.
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Post#398 » by ProcessDoctor » Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:00 pm

I'm cooling off on Ace Bailey after looking at his game log more closely. His metrics are pretty terrible, and it seems his best games are against weaker competition.

If we land #3 and Flagg + Harper are gone, I'd probably try to trade the pick for a Zion/Lamelo type.
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Post#399 » by Mik317 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:20 pm

Stealing this from Bodner/Hoffman on their pod but Bailey is scary as **** because he can get you fired for taking him and also fired for passing on him lol.

The 6'9 wing athlete who can shoot and create his own looks is the holy grail.. but there is such a small needle that needs to threaded for that guy to actually be good most of the time lol. Its like a scale of Perry Jones to MPJ to Tobias to Tatum. I'm not digging too deep until I know if we actually have a pick or not but yeah I get it.

Some people I consider knowers of their ****...hate Bailey for at least very smart sounding reasons but man idk I'd def be the GM to sell my soul on the probable 1% chance of new age T-Mac just dropped. We are sitting here wondering if our two smallish guards can coexist after near a decade of trying to build around a big giant center...having the potential go to scorer big wing is a training wheels level team builder. but again that **** is not as simple. Tatum, who I was famously down on (Duke hate and he just seemed stiff as **** iirc), has worked himself into a player with very few flaws, it was his passing for a while but Boston surrounded him with elite shooters to make those reads very simple so double teams are always a bad idea but leaving him one on one is also bad. That is the purest basketball strat of making the defense choose (IMO they should just live with Tatum taking and probably making tough twos over the wide open 3s tho)...but Tatum also shown the ability to get by people...whereas Bailey in most of his highlights look like current PG with all of the contested shots....so idk

Hopefully whoever scouted McCain and Maxey is still around if we have to make such a choice.
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Post#400 » by Negrodamus » Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:52 pm

We have Ace Bailey at home: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/kelly-oubre-1.html

And would be cheaper than the #3 pick, no?

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