2025 NFL Off-Season

[Jaydubb]

Then again you never know, if most GMs view dk metcalf closer to Mooney then we might see Mooney get traded for a 2nd and then also get a $150mill extension. Very unlikely, but you never know!

It's actually a 4 year extension. The average is $33m per. He's under contract for 5 years total at $150m. But the extension itself is for 4 years & an aav of $33m.

Oh that’s right, my bad. And I’ll go on record as saying I think that’s probably too much. I’m a dk metcalf fan but that’s a lot for a WR.

And yes, I think the same for AJ brown. I just don’t think WRs should get paid that much, but that’s what the market is at unfortunately. I feel like OL should get more love but they don’t put fans in seats so I get it.

[El Turco]

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Lol what happened to first rounder plus another mid pick? Looks like ol' turco was right again.

Depending on the guarantees that's a ridiculous extension though. In two years Steelers will regret it, Seattle made the right call moving on.

What happened to a 3rd at most?

3rd is much closer to mid-2nd than a 1st and a third.

Regardless I was mostly arguing he wouldnt fetch a first.

[El Turco]

Lol what happened to first rounder plus another mid pick? Looks like ol' turco was right again.

Depending on the guarantees that's a ridiculous extension though. In two years Steelers will regret it, Seattle made the right call moving on.

You were definitely right. Jaydubb is in scrambling mode now. lol
Everyone knew for a long time that he wanted out. They were always going to have to talk to DK to get an extension.
You can’t trade a first and pay free agent money to a guy going on his third contract.

What happened to being to being closer to Mooney? You think Mooney is worth close to $150mill? Lmao

Do you live in a world where teams dont give terrible contracts?

[Cactus Jack]

Lol what happened to first rounder plus another mid pick? Looks like ol' turco was right again.

Depending on the guarantees that's a ridiculous extension though. In two years Steelers will regret it, Seattle made the right call moving on.

What happened to a 3rd at most?

3rd is much closer to mid-2nd than a 1st and a third.

Regardless I was mostly arguing he wouldnt fetch a first.

They we're never going to get that return. But I still think best case they might have been able to get a late 1st if things had gone differently. But they wanted to resolve it asap & settled for a 2nd. Which is fine. It's not a great return. But it's fair compensation for the most part. Now, they don't have to deal with any more drama this offseason involving him & the team can plan accordingly.

[Jaydubb]

You were definitely right. Jaydubb is in scrambling mode now. lol
Everyone knew for a long time that he wanted out. They were always going to have to talk to DK to get an extension.
You can’t trade a first and pay free agent money to a guy going on his third contract.

What happened to being to being closer to Mooney? You think Mooney is worth close to $150mill? Lmao

Do you live in a world where teams dont give terrible contracts?

Nope, I know it happens, I see it happen all the time with Dallas. But Mooney was a really bad example..lol It was quite obvious that DK would get more interest than that.

And fwiw, I already said I think the dk contract is an overpay but that’s moreso because I don’t think WRs should get paid that much in general. But I’ll go a step further and say If JJ is getting $35mill/year then yeah it’s an overpay for DK to get $33mill/year. But it just goes to show GMs think he has the potential to be elite again versus play like mooney..lol

[Jaydubb]

What happened to a 3rd at most?

3rd is much closer to mid-2nd than a 1st and a third.

Regardless I was mostly arguing he wouldnt fetch a first.

They we're never going to get that return. But I still think best case they might have been able to get a late 1st if things had gone differently. But they wanted to resolve it asap & settled for a 2nd. Which is fine. It's not a great return. But it's fair compensation for the most part. Now, they don't have to deal with any more drama this offseason involving him & the team can plan accordingly.

Right, a 1st and 3rd probably never would’ve happened but it’s hard to not imagine a 1st would be possible under better circumstances.

[Mariner]

What happened to being to being closer to Mooney? You think Mooney is worth close to $150mill? Lmao

Do you live in a world where teams dont give terrible contracts?

Nope, I know it happens, I see it happen all the time with Dallas. But Mooney was a really bad example..lol It was quite obvious that DK would get more interest than that.

And fwiw, I already said I think the dk contract is an overpay but that’s moreso because I don’t think WRs should get paid that much in general. But I’ll go a step further and say If JJ is getting $35mill/year then yeah it’s an overpay for DK to get $33mill/year. But it just goes to show GMs think he has the potential to be elite again versus play like mooney..lol

Every time you mention mooney you show your colours.
I gave an example. lol I clearly said DK was better. lol
Stop trying to shift the goalposts.
You were wrong. And anyone who reads the exchange knows it.
My god your gloating and you were wrong. I can’t imagine how you would have acted if you were right and he fetched a first. lol

[Jaydubb]

Do you live in a world where teams dont give terrible contracts?

Nope, I know it happens, I see it happen all the time with Dallas. But Mooney was a really bad example..lol It was quite obvious that DK would get more interest than that.

And fwiw, I already said I think the dk contract is an overpay but that’s moreso because I don’t think WRs should get paid that much in general. But I’ll go a step further and say If JJ is getting $35mill/year then yeah it’s an overpay for DK to get $33mill/year. But it just goes to show GMs think he has the potential to be elite again versus play like mooney..lol

Every time you mention mooney you show your colours.
I gave an example. lol I clearly said DK was better. lol
Stop trying to shift the goalposts.
You were wrong. And anyone who reads the exchange knows it.
My god your gloating and you were wrong. I can’t imagine how you would have acted if you were right and he fetched a first. lol

Why are you so butt hurt? Chill, stop crying like a little baby with a poppy diaper. It’s ok to discuss things after acquisitions happen.

[Mariner]

Nope, I know it happens, I see it happen all the time with Dallas. But Mooney was a really bad example..lol It was quite obvious that DK would get more interest than that.

And fwiw, I already said I think the dk contract is an overpay but that’s moreso because I don’t think WRs should get paid that much in general. But I’ll go a step further and say If JJ is getting $35mill/year then yeah it’s an overpay for DK to get $33mill/year. But it just goes to show GMs think he has the potential to be elite again versus play like mooney..lol

Every time you mention mooney you show your colours.
I gave an example. lol I clearly said DK was better. lol
Stop trying to shift the goalposts.
You were wrong. And anyone who reads the exchange knows it.
My god your gloating and you were wrong. I can’t imagine how you would have acted if you were right and he fetched a first. lol

Why are you so butt hurt? Chill, stop crying like a little baby with a poppy diaper. It’s ok to discuss things after acquisitions happen.

You’re buthurt. I think you’re embarrassed and now in damage control.
Just take the loss and move on.

[Jaydubb]

Every time you mention mooney you show your colours.
I gave an example. lol I clearly said DK was better. lol
Stop trying to shift the goalposts.
You were wrong. And anyone who reads the exchange knows it.
My god your gloating and you were wrong. I can’t imagine how you would have acted if you were right and he fetched a first. lol

Why are you so butt hurt? Chill, stop crying like a little baby with a poppy diaper. It’s ok to discuss things after acquisitions happen.

You’re buthurt. I think you’re embarrassed and now in damage control.
Just take the loss and move on.

You were wrong too! He’s not valued like a Mooney and he went for more than a 3rd!

So we are both wrong! I can take it, can you?!?!

[Cactus Jack]

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[Mariner]

Why are you so butt hurt? Chill, stop crying like a little baby with a poppy diaper. It’s ok to discuss things after acquisitions happen.

You’re buthurt. I think you’re embarrassed and now in damage control.
Just take the loss and move on.

You were wrong too! He’s not valued like a Mooney and he went for more than a 3rd!

So we are both wrong! I can take it, can you?!?!

lol I never said he was the same as Mooney. lol
I said their last years were similar stats wise.
I clearly said before and now that DK is clearly better.
You just refuse to understand that.
This is about compensation ONLY!
It’s being reported that 8 teams were in discussions with Seattle. That means all the offers were worse than the second of the Steelers. Most GMs probably offered a third.
Understand that the second they got wasn’t the average offer. It was the best offer. The average offer was worse.
Tell me you don’t understand by mentioning Mooney again. lol

[Cactus Jack]

Guys, it's not worth getting worked up over.

[Jaydubb]

You’re buthurt. I think you’re embarrassed and now in damage control.
Just take the loss and move on.

You were wrong too! He’s not valued like a Mooney and he went for more than a 3rd!

So we are both wrong! I can take it, can you?!?!

lol I never said he was the same as Mooney. lol
I said their last years were similar stats wise.
I clearly said before and now that DK is clearly better.
You just refuse to understand that.
This is about compensation ONLY!
It’s being reported that 8 teams were in discussions with Seattle. That means all the offers were worse than the second of the Steelers. Most GMs probably offered a third.
Understand that the second they got wasn’t the average offer. It was the best offer. The average offer was worse.
Tell me you don’t understand by mentioning Mooney again. lol

So you can’t take it, I knew it!!! Hahahaaaa!!

Truth is neither of us were right but neither of us were wrong either because there were other factors going on. After DK requested a trade, his trade value is lowered, I don’t know why you refuse to accept that fact. That’s trade value 101. Reports were coming out that Seattle was willing to keep dk too until DK requested a trade, when that happened other GMs inevitably lowered their trade offers because at that point Seattle needed them more than they needed Seattle.

So yeah we were both wrong and we were both right. Be my friend again, pwetty pwease?

[Mamba Mentality]

Pickens is probably on his way out, I cant imagine both of those divas sharing the field. Their skill sets are also very redundant. Steelers need more of a possession receiver that can run routes underneath.

[El Turco]

What happened to a 3rd at most?

3rd is much closer to mid-2nd than a 1st and a third.

Regardless I was mostly arguing he wouldnt fetch a first.

They we're never going to get that return. But I still think best case they might have been able to get a late 1st if things had gone differently. But they wanted to resolve it asap & settled for a 2nd. Which is fine. It's not a great return. But it's fair compensation for the most part. Now, they don't have to deal with any more drama this offseason involving him & the team can plan accordingly.

Yeah I think it is a good move by Seattle, I am also in the camp of not paying receivers unless it is Jefferson, Chase or Mooney. There are many B, B+ type of receivers and more coming in the league every year. Supply is above demand, good athletes choosing to play receiver instead of some of the other positions that get paid less and have more wear and tear.

Seattle is on the right path if they dont sign Darnold or another high priced quarterback.

[Jaydubb]

Guys, it's not worth getting worked up over.

He and I have been going back and forth for nearly 10 years.lol it’s all good

We have a love/hate relationship. I like talking to him at times but we do have these convos at times too. It’s all good tho, **** happens.

[Cactus Jack]

3rd is much closer to mid-2nd than a 1st and a third.

Regardless I was mostly arguing he wouldnt fetch a first.

They we're never going to get that return. But I still think best case they might have been able to get a late 1st if things had gone differently. But they wanted to resolve it asap & settled for a 2nd. Which is fine. It's not a great return. But it's fair compensation for the most part. Now, they don't have to deal with any more drama this offseason involving him & the team can plan accordingly.

Yeah I think it is a good move by Seattle, I am also in the camp of not paying receivers unless it is Jefferson, Chase or Mooney. There are many B, B+ type of receivers and more coming in the league every year. Supply is above demand, good athletes choosing to play receiver instead of some of the other positions that get paid less and have more wear and tear.

Seattle is on the right path if they dont sign Darnold or another high priced quarterback.

They'll probably sign Darold as a short-term stopgap. But reshaping the roster was necessary if they plan on competing in 2026 & beyond. Now they have the opportunity to reset & build a roster properly.

[Jaydubb]

3rd is much closer to mid-2nd than a 1st and a third.

Regardless I was mostly arguing he wouldnt fetch a first.

They we're never going to get that return. But I still think best case they might have been able to get a late 1st if things had gone differently. But they wanted to resolve it asap & settled for a 2nd. Which is fine. It's not a great return. But it's fair compensation for the most part. Now, they don't have to deal with any more drama this offseason involving him & the team can plan accordingly.

Yeah I think it is a good move by Seattle, I am also in the camp of not paying receivers unless it is Jefferson, Chase or Mooney. There are many B, B+ type of receivers and more coming in the league every year. Supply is above demand, good athletes choosing to play receiver instead of some of the other positions that get paid less and have more wear and tear.

Seattle is on the right path if they dont sign Darnold or another high priced quarterback.

I think WR is one of those positions that you don’t need top tier talent at. If you have a good OL and a good QB I feel like elite WRs aren’t needed. Give the biggest contracts to OL/DL and QB. Obviously having some of these positions on rookie deals helps overpay other positions and that’s why I think it worked for the eagles this year.