Bears 11.0: Free Agency, College Pro days, Draft & beyond

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

Clearing the way for a Will Johnson selection

I’m not completely opposed to this. But having 3 really good corners just feels like a luxury….right?

I would not describe Tyrique Stevenson as a "really good corner." He's just ok and obviously doesn't have his head totally screwed on straight.

Kyler! I think Stevenson has a place in the NFL, maybe a switch to safety would work.

[patryk7754]

Clearing the way for a Will Johnson selection

I’m not completely opposed to this. But having 3 really good corners just feels like a luxury….right?

Theoretically, we already have three really good CBs. Johnson and Gordon are the obvious with the jury still being out on Stevenson. We also have Terrel Smith, who may be the best CB4 in the NFL. Regardless, I wouldn't be surprised if we draft a CB relatively high. From my understanding, the saints ran a lot of nickel and dime.

[jnrjr79]

I’m not completely opposed to this. But having 3 really good corners just feels like a luxury….right?

I would not describe Tyrique Stevenson as a "really good corner." He's just ok and obviously doesn't have his head totally screwed on straight.

Kyler! I think Stevenson has a place in the NFL, maybe a switch to safety would work.

Ha, that makes sense. I guess I'm suffering from Hail Mary PTSD.

[jnrjr79]

Clearing the way for a Will Johnson selection

I’m not completely opposed to this. But having 3 really good corners just feels like a luxury….right?

Theoretically, we already have three really good CBs. Johnson and Gordon are the obvious with the jury still being out on Stevenson. We also have Terrel Smith, who may be the best CB4 in the NFL. Regardless, I wouldn't be surprised if we draft a CB relatively high. From my understanding, the saints ran a lot of nickel and dime.

I wondered when they let Sanborn go if that was an indication that you're not going to see much base defense this year.

[CBS7]

still want to go OL / DL in the 2nd round, bpa in the first

[patryk7754]

I’m not completely opposed to this. But having 3 really good corners just feels like a luxury….right?

Theoretically, we already have three really good CBs. Johnson and Gordon are the obvious with the jury still being out on Stevenson. We also have Terrel Smith, who may be the best CB4 in the NFL. Regardless, I wouldn't be surprised if we draft a CB relatively high. From my understanding, the saints ran a lot of nickel and dime.

I wondered when they let Sanborn go if that was an indication that you're not going to see much base defense this year.

That's my assumption. This was a while ago, so I may be misremembering, but I believe I heard the saints were one of the top in the NFL running dime package plays in obvious pass situations.

Billy Bowman jr out of Oklahoma has really grown on me. He reminds me a lot of brain branch who has been great for the Lions. He has the versatility Allen looks for in his safeties and in situations where we would run a dime package, he can come in and play man.

[Betta Bulleavit]

Clearing the way for a Will Johnson selection

I’m not completely opposed to this. But having 3 really good corners just feels like a luxury….right?

I would not describe Tyrique Stevenson as a "really good corner." He's just ok and obviously doesn't have his head totally screwed on straight.

I was referring to JJ and Kyler. But to your point about Stevenson, he’s got some growing up to do. But he’s still a young guy that is capable of making big plays…even if he gives them up sometimes too.

[patryk7754]

https://youtu.be/nJ6DLdmHUcE?si=Rx0Q5K3DMNmx-cEE

I'd like Donte Thorton in the draft. He's almost a carbon copy of Jameson Williams. Thorton is 6'5 and ran a 4.30. He's projected to go in the 5th, but I would be happy with drafting him as high as the 3rd. Thorton and a vet min WR like Tim Patrick and our WR room is set.

[patryk7754]

I wonder if we have some more cuts or restructures happening. I believe we started the day with a little more than 40m in cap and I'm pretty sure we've spent at least 45m

[NZB2323]

I’m feeling like from what I am reading, the Jarret signing is an overpay when it comes down to projection of what he’s bringing at his age. I don’t quite get it. Hopefully it’s not a contract the Bears need to dump in a year or 2

The cap goes up every year and lots of teams have cap space, so I’m fine with an overpay. The criticism of Bears ownership over the years has been they’re cheap. Let’s spend the cap space we have and build the lines.

[Betta Bulleavit]

I wonder if we have some more cuts or restructures happening. I believe we started the day with a little more than 40m in cap and I'm pretty sure we've spent at least 45m

It’ll depend on how these new contracts are structured I would think.

[Dresden]

Clearly the Jets disagree with you. FWIW he was 4-2 last year with 10 total TDs and completed 65.8% of his passes.

And yet he was benched as soon as Wilson got healthy. And how many ppg did PIT average while he was QB- around 20?

Most players and fans wanted Fields to remain the starter. Tomlin is old school. You don't lose your job to injury.

I don't buy that. I think he stuck with Wilson because he was able to put up more points.

[Dresden]

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JarrGr00.htm

clearly not the same production as far as sacks but everything else is the about the same. He was the primary guy for the Falcons for several years, including this past season. He does from being the main guy to maybe the 4th guy and you still have billings to come in as well. I expect a really good season out of him.

Dalmán is probably thinking- "man, I have to go against this guy in practice again!"

[patryk7754]

And yet he was benched as soon as Wilson got healthy. And how many ppg did PIT average while he was QB- around 20?

Most players and fans wanted Fields to remain the starter. Tomlin is old school. You don't lose your job to injury.

I don't buy that. I think he stuck with Wilson because he was able to put up more points.

He stuck with Wilson because Wilson was QB1 and fields was QB2. Tomlin was very consistent about that since the start of training camp. And even outside the qb situation he’s stated more than once that players don’t loose their jobs to injury. Same way cutler didn’t loose his job to Mccown when he probably should have.

Sure, if fields played like a top 5 qb he probably would have kept the job but he was far from bad. Good actually.
He was better than average in Chicago with piss poor coaching.

[Dresden]

I’m feeling like from what I am reading, the Jarret signing is an overpay when it comes down to projection of what he’s bringing at his age. I don’t quite get it. Hopefully it’s not a contract the Bears need to dump in a year or 2

The cap goes up every year and lots of teams have cap space, so I’m fine with an overpay. The criticism of Bears ownership over the years has been they’re cheap. Let’s spend the cap space we have and build the lines.

Yeah it's nice to see the Bears for once actually doing what they needed to do in FA. No more getting cute, signing LB's to big deals, or RB's that aren't that great. Maybe Poles has just been carefully saving and planning for this for a few seasons, and decided now was the time to push all his chips into the middle. In any case, he certainly is being aggressive.

[Dresden]

Most players and fans wanted Fields to remain the starter. Tomlin is old school. You don't lose your job to injury.

I don't buy that. I think he stuck with Wilson because he was able to put up more points.

He stuck with Wilson because Wilson was QB1 and fields was QB2. Tomlin was very consistent about that since the start of training camp. And even outside the qb situation he’s stated more than once that players don’t loose their jobs to injury. Same way cutler didn’t loose his job to Mccown when he probably should have.

Sure, if fields played like a top 5 qb he probably would have kept the job but he was far from bad. Good actually.
He was better than average in Chicago with piss poor coaching.

I would bet Fields doesn't remain the starter for the Jets for the whole season. Unless they're tanking.

[patryk7754]

And fans definitely wanted to keep fields. Probably more because they were sour on Wilson from his time with the broncos. But if I recall correctly, there were rumblings that the locker room preferred fields. But at the end of the day, they were good with whoever.

[Dresden]

still want to go OL / DL in the 2nd round, bpa in the first

I would like to see them keep investing in the lines as well. We need some young guys to replace some of these guys we've signed who are in their 30's. And we might lose Braxton to FA next year, so a LT is still somewhat of a need.

That being said, our draft board should be wide open now- we can take BPA at 10, whether that's Jeanty, or Will Johnson, or Tyler Warren, or whoever. That's a prospect that has to have our scouting team doing backflips.

[Jcool0]

I don't buy that. I think he stuck with Wilson because he was able to put up more points.

He stuck with Wilson because Wilson was QB1 and fields was QB2. Tomlin was very consistent about that since the start of training camp. And even outside the qb situation he’s stated more than once that players don’t loose their jobs to injury. Same way cutler didn’t loose his job to Mccown when he probably should have.

Sure, if fields played like a top 5 qb he probably would have kept the job but he was far from bad. Good actually.
He was better than average in Chicago with piss poor coaching.

I would bet Fields doesn't remain the starter for the Jets for the whole season. Unless they're tanking.

Did miss something with the Jets depth chart? Did they trade for another QB?

[patryk7754]

I don't buy that. I think he stuck with Wilson because he was able to put up more points.

He stuck with Wilson because Wilson was QB1 and fields was QB2. Tomlin was very consistent about that since the start of training camp. And even outside the qb situation he’s stated more than once that players don’t loose their jobs to injury. Same way cutler didn’t loose his job to Mccown when he probably should have.

Sure, if fields played like a top 5 qb he probably would have kept the job but he was far from bad. Good actually.
He was better than average in Chicago with piss poor coaching.

I would bet Fields doesn't remain the starter for the Jets for the whole season. Unless they're tanking.

I’d take that bet. He finished the second half of his last season here playing really well. Played better than really well with a winning record with the Steelers. And if anyone has a good idea about what fields can do, I would think the guy who coached against him for a few years would.