OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd

[mpharris36]

I say you have to go QB almost. Giants wont be in the running for a top QB next year by all accounts with this FA. You have to get someone on roster. Last chance....

If SS is there at 3... he is the pick.

Giants wont take the chance trading down and then SS becomes good. They would look forever stupid.

If SS sucks, you can justify that you tried. He is nice and you pass on him.... eternal egg on the face.

If the Vet flames out. You also have a young dude in waiting.

Its QB. I cant see them passing on QB at 3 if SS is there. If they do that I will be highly surprised.

Agreed. I think if Ward or SS is on the board, they won't pass that up. Especially if we also have a bridge QB.

The concern is those guys won't be there.

Correct I think right or wrong Ward or Sanders will be the pick but they are picking 3rd and both teams above them need QB's...so it might be out of our hands outside of drafting Dart.

I would have a real issue drafting Dart over Abdul Carter. I would have less of an issue drafting Sanders over Carter (still would prefer Carter) but I know they need a QB in the room so I can live with it.

If both QB's go 1-2 how about going Carter and then making a trade for Milton. Pats are open to moving him. At least that would give us an interesting developing piece. I just don't think you can go Dart at #3 that would be wild to me.

[Strick]

so schoen lets mckinney walk because he isn't interested in paying safeties and a year later we sign a safety for big money, alright

Loved McKinney and it hurts to see him balling out somewhere else. That being said the deal less money than McKinney and it’s someone with a fresh start. McKinney unfortunately was clashing with the organization, came off the ATV broken arm, etc.

I would’ve liked to see us retain homegrown talent but we did get a really talented safety who is only 25 and is on a cheaper contract

[mpharris36]

so schoen lets mckinney walk because he isn't interested in paying safeties and a year later we sign a safety for big money, alright

yeah I'm not sure...process is kinda backwards...they did offer McKinney a deal and he turned it down along with Barkley. So they did value them to some extent but I think the ATV accident and him lying about it put a rift between the franchise and McKinney...can't be a leader and doing that on a bye week. Also with the cap going up the value of Holland contract is lower per year than McKinney.

But its a tough sell job to say Slayton and Holland for roughly around the same money is better than Barkley and McKinney.

[Ghetto Gospel]

I say you have to go QB almost. Giants wont be in the running for a top QB next year by all accounts with this FA. You have to get someone on roster. Last chance....

If SS is there at 3... he is the pick.

Giants wont take the chance trading down and then SS becomes good. They would look forever stupid.

If SS sucks, you can justify that you tried. He is nice and you pass on him.... eternal egg on the face.

If the Vet flames out. You also have a young dude in waiting.

Its QB. I cant see them passing on QB at 3 if SS is there. If they do that I will be highly surprised.

Agreed. I think if Ward or SS is on the board, they won't pass that up. Especially if we also have a bridge QB.

The concern is those guys won't be there.

Correct I think right or wrong Ward or Sanders will be the pick but they are picking 3rd and both teams above them need QB's...so it might be out of our hands outside of drafting Dart.

I would have a real issue drafting Dart over Abdul Carter. I would have less of an issue drafting Sanders over Carter (still would prefer Carter) but I know they need a QB in the room so I can live with it.

If both QB's go 1-2 how about going Carter and then making a trade for Milton. Pats are open to moving him. At least that would give us an interesting developing piece. I just don't think you can go Dart at #3 that would be wild to me.

haven't heard jalen milroe in a while so it sounds like he's fallen off the radar. i wouldn't mind taking a swing on him in the 2nd or something

[GONYK]

Agreed. I think if Ward or SS is on the board, they won't pass that up. Especially if we also have a bridge QB.

The concern is those guys won't be there.

Correct I think right or wrong Ward or Sanders will be the pick but they are picking 3rd and both teams above them need QB's...so it might be out of our hands outside of drafting Dart.

I would have a real issue drafting Dart over Abdul Carter. I would have less of an issue drafting Sanders over Carter (still would prefer Carter) but I know they need a QB in the room so I can live with it.

If both QB's go 1-2 how about going Carter and then making a trade for Milton. Pats are open to moving him. At least that would give us an interesting developing piece. I just don't think you can go Dart at #3 that would be wild to me.

haven't heard jalen milroe in a while so it sounds like he's fallen off the radar. i wouldn't mind taking a swing on him in the 2nd or something

Well, he was a bit of a disaster for the throwing portion of the combine.

I would still take a flyer on him in later rounds, but as Richardson proved in Indy, you need your QB to be able to throw the ball even a little bit.

[Ghetto Gospel]

Correct I think right or wrong Ward or Sanders will be the pick but they are picking 3rd and both teams above them need QB's...so it might be out of our hands outside of drafting Dart.

I would have a real issue drafting Dart over Abdul Carter. I would have less of an issue drafting Sanders over Carter (still would prefer Carter) but I know they need a QB in the room so I can live with it.

If both QB's go 1-2 how about going Carter and then making a trade for Milton. Pats are open to moving him. At least that would give us an interesting developing piece. I just don't think you can go Dart at #3 that would be wild to me.

haven't heard jalen milroe in a while so it sounds like he's fallen off the radar. i wouldn't mind taking a swing on him in the 2nd or something

Well, he was a bit of a disaster for the throwing portion of the combine.

I would still take a flyer on him in later rounds, but as Richardson proved in Indy, you need your QB to be able to throw the ball even a little bit.

i dont think he'd be there in the later rounds though.

but yeah i agree, obviously he'd be developmental but at this point when we're going past the first 2, they all are. seeing jaxson dart throwing against air when he couldn't do it in games isn't inspiring me either

[TerrenceClarke]

I say you have to go QB almost. Giants wont be in the running for a top QB next year by all accounts with this FA. You have to get someone on roster. Last chance....

If SS is there at 3... he is the pick.

Giants wont take the chance trading down and then SS becomes good. They would look forever stupid.

If SS sucks, you can justify that you tried. He is nice and you pass on him.... eternal egg on the face.

If the Vet flames out. You also have a young dude in waiting.

Its QB. I cant see them passing on QB at 3 if SS is there. If they do that I will be highly surprised.

There is a legit scenario though that Ward and Sanders go 1-2.

Look at the teams that are bad that need QB's....Titans and Browns still don't have a legit future or starting QB (they both have yet to do anything to improve the QB room). No I don't think Kenny Picket changes anything for the browns.

You have to brace for the real chance they are both off the board. In that situation do you just go Dart?

I said this...

If SS is there at 3

nah im passing on dart at 3. SS and Ward are mocked at the top so I can deal with a flame out there. Dart is barley in consideration for 1st round.

[TerrenceClarke]

Milroe is super ass imo. His accuracy is some of the worst I have seen in a while. Physical Profile can match Cam Ward, but everything else is buns....

[Kampuchea]

Really excited to see what Slayton can do with the Giants, great signing.

[GONYK]

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Update on the Rodgers situation

[Synciere]

Giants gave more money to Slayton then they offered to Barkley

clowns.

Dude wins the super bowl and then got the biggest bag.

Slayton is a bum, im sorry. he is a super mid WR.

Deez we are screwed man.lol.

The Giants have become the Knicks since Dolan took charge.

Sad.

Yea, it's sad. Almost every decision seems wrong. Just expecting another wasted season

If we compare all moves to the Daniel Jones/Saquon debacle then yeah, we’re screwed. But independently speaking, none of these contracts are egregiously off. I especially like the Holland pickup.

[mpharris36]

Milroe is super ass imo. His accuracy is some of the worst I have seen in a while. Physical Profile can match Cam Ward, but everything else is buns....

I would take a shot at Joe Milton (trade) before I take a shot at Milroe...his throwing is very questionable.

[mpharris36]

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Update on the Rodgers situation

So how I see it.

Winning organization - steelers

offensive scheme, and comfortability (just bought a mansion in NJ in driving distance to stadium) might favor Giants.

Arthur Blank is a run heavy OC...I wonder if Rodgers would prefer Daboll's system. Steelers are better. Also he wouldn't have to mvoe...maybe he value's that at 41...who knows.

wonder where the money comes in for both teams.

[TerrenceClarke]

Milroe is super ass imo. His accuracy is some of the worst I have seen in a while. Physical Profile can match Cam Ward, but everything else is buns....

I would take a shot at Joe Milton (trade) before I take a shot at Milroe...his throwing is very questionable.

yeah i would make that move to. He on the market to.

[mpharris36]

Milroe is super ass imo. His accuracy is some of the worst I have seen in a while. Physical Profile can match Cam Ward, but everything else is buns....

I would take a shot at Joe Milton (trade) before I take a shot at Milroe...his throwing is very questionable.

yeah i would make that move to. He on the market to.

They have Drake Maye and they just signed Dobbs to be there backup QB. No point to carry a guy like Milton as a 3rd strong QB if you can get some decent draft capital. Shouldn't cost a 3....but maybe a 4th rounder to take a shot.

If Ward and Sanders goes 1/2 and Carter is sitting there at 3...I would be interested in maybe trading a 4th or something for a shot at him just so that we can get a developmental QB in the org. It was one game vs a lot of backups but there were def some flashes.

[GONYK]

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Update on the Rodgers situation

So how I see it.

Winning organization - steelers

offensive scheme, and comfortability (just bought a mansion in NJ in driving distance to stadium) might favor Giants.

Arthur Blank is a run heavy OC...I wonder if Rodgers would prefer Daboll's system. Steelers are better. Also he wouldn't have to mvoe...maybe he value's that at 41...who knows.

wonder where the money comes in for both teams.

Are there any reports saying the Steelers actually want Rodgers? Tomlin always stresses that he wants mobility from the quarterback and that isn't Rodgers anymore.

If he's truly choosing between us and PIT, then I don't think the money is even. Especially when it is very dubious that they will give Rodgers more than, or even equal to, what they wouldn't give Fields.

[mpharris36]

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Update on the Rodgers situation

So how I see it.

Winning organization - steelers

offensive scheme, and comfortability (just bought a mansion in NJ in driving distance to stadium) might favor Giants.

Arthur Blank is a run heavy OC...I wonder if Rodgers would prefer Daboll's system. Steelers are better. Also he wouldn't have to mvoe...maybe he value's that at 41...who knows.

wonder where the money comes in for both teams.

Are there any reports saying the Steelers actually want Rodgers? Tomlin always stresses that he wants mobility from the quarterback and that isn't Rodgers anymore.

If he's truly choosing between us and PIT, then I don't think the money is even. Especially when it is very dubious that they will give Rodgers more than, or even equal to, what they wouldn't give Fields.

Would Rodgers just be using the Steelers as leverage. There are rumors that Rodgers would go to Giants but more as last resort because he wants to win but who knows.

Steelers brought in DK and he has a relationship with Wilson...who knows.

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this was as of last night a lot of momentum to Steelers...but Giants seem to be still in it and giving him time to figure out his situation.

[GONYK]

So how I see it.

Winning organization - steelers

offensive scheme, and comfortability (just bought a mansion in NJ in driving distance to stadium) might favor Giants.

Arthur Blank is a run heavy OC...I wonder if Rodgers would prefer Daboll's system. Steelers are better. Also he wouldn't have to mvoe...maybe he value's that at 41...who knows.

wonder where the money comes in for both teams.

Are there any reports saying the Steelers actually want Rodgers? Tomlin always stresses that he wants mobility from the quarterback and that isn't Rodgers anymore.

If he's truly choosing between us and PIT, then I don't think the money is even. Especially when it is very dubious that they will give Rodgers more than, or even equal to, what they wouldn't give Fields.

Would Rodgers just be using the Steelers as leverage. There are rumors that Rodgers would go to Giants but more as last resort because he wants to win but who knows.

Steelers brought in DK and he has a relationship with Wilson...who knows.

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this was as of last night a lot of momentum to Steelers...but Giants seem to be still in it and giving him time to figure out his situation.

I'm just not sure that isn't coming from the Rodgers camp

[GONYK]

Looks like the Browns are making a move for Cousins according to the Browns' Athletic beat reporter

[Ghetto Gospel]

Looks like the Browns are making a move for Cousins according to the Browns' Athletic beat reporter

basically everyone making a move for a QB except the titans. makes me think they're locked onto cam ward and other teams are kinda eh on shedeur