PG Indy - Scott Foster Special

[Ron Swanson]

How many games are we gonna have in the playoffs where Giannis and Dame combine for only 34 total points on 28 shots? The loss itself is nothing to worry about, but this just again illustrates how awful of an offensive tactician Doc is. We're so **** easy to defend when only one of those dudes are on the court and the defense can just focus all their energy on getting the ball out of their hands.

It's why our offense in those bench lineups has largely just been giving the ball to Kevin Porter and letting him ISO shoot mid-rangers while praying the defense can pitch a shut out. It's why Kuzma only looks like a serviceable offensive player when there's actual ball-movement and he's cutting to the basket. And most importantly, it's why a team like Cleveland can have the #1 offense in basketball with two ball dominant guards who fit questionably together before Atkinson got there, and why we've completely wasted the Dame/Giannis duo's potential with dumb coaches who don't have a clear philosophy or plan for a modern NBA offense.

Nah. Perhaps you missed the Pacers doubling Dame and Giannis every time they got the ball.

It's almost like you didn't even read what I wrote in the first paragraph.

[Dick Tate]

Doc didn't challenge the foul, he challenged Hali being in bounds.

[Bucksmaniac]

How many games are we gonna have in the playoffs where Giannis and Dame combine for only 34 total points on 28 shots? The loss itself is nothing to worry about, but this just again illustrates how awful of an offensive tactician Doc is. We're so **** easy to defend when only one of those dudes are on the court and the defense can just focus all their energy on getting the ball out of their hands.

It's why our offense in those bench lineups has largely just been giving the ball to Kevin Porter and letting him ISO shoot mid-rangers while praying the defense can pitch a shut out. It's why Kuzma only looks like a serviceable offensive player when there's actual ball-movement and he's cutting to the basket. And most importantly, it's why a team like Cleveland can have the #1 offense in basketball with two ball dominant guards who fit questionably together before Atkinson got there, and why we've completely wasted the Dame/Giannis duo's potential with dumb coaches who don't have a clear philosophy or plan for a modern NBA offense.

Nah. Perhaps you missed the Pacers doubling Dame and Giannis every time they got the ball. You can't do that with a healthy KM on the court. But you can with Kuzma, et al on the court.

And if Dame would have forced a ton of shots, then everyone would have blasted him.

This isn't a coaching problem. There's only one or two coaches who could elevate the talent on this roster and Atkinson isn't one of them, even though I liked him better than the other options last year.

Cleveland's 4 stars have been healthy all year. Not so last year. The coach Cleveland fired is probably going to be the coach of the year in Detroit.

Easy but wrong analysis to blame the coach. If Doc was a rigid coach and stuck to one scheme all the time, you'd have a better argument.

Blaming Horst is a better argument.

So you like Doc starting Prince at the 2 and having him defend them along with taking the most shots on a night like last night? If you like Doc you must like that strategy of his.

[MickeyDavis]

Prince was good last night, not sure if dumping on him after this game makes sense. 18/6/3/1. 4-8 from deep. He did miss some paint shots but they were good shots. He played some decent defense.

[Profound23]

Prince was good last night, not sure if dumping on him after this game makes sense. 18/6/3/1. 4-8 from deep. He did miss some paint shots but they were good shots. He played some decent defense.

His last shot looked like it was supposed to be an alley-oop to Giannis and it was very lucky to go in. Besides a couple of weird shots he played well. I honestly don't see much of a difference from Prince to Kuzma. Prince and Lopez both played well last night and kept us in that game.

[Ron Swanson]

Really wondering if that same package we gave up for Kuzma would have gotten us Hunter from Atlanta. Dude would fit in so much better here.

[BigO]

How many games are we gonna have in the playoffs where Giannis and Dame combine for only 34 total points on 28 shots? The loss itself is nothing to worry about, but this just again illustrates how awful of an offensive tactician Doc is. We're so **** easy to defend when only one of those dudes are on the court and the defense can just focus all their energy on getting the ball out of their hands.

It's why our offense in those bench lineups has largely just been giving the ball to Kevin Porter and letting him ISO shoot mid-rangers while praying the defense can pitch a shut out. It's why Kuzma only looks like a serviceable offensive player when there's actual ball-movement and he's cutting to the basket. And most importantly, it's why a team like Cleveland can have the #1 offense in basketball with two ball dominant guards who fit questionably together before Atkinson got there, and why we've completely wasted the Dame/Giannis duo's potential with dumb coaches who don't have a clear philosophy or plan for a modern NBA offense.

Nah. Perhaps you missed the Pacers doubling Dame and Giannis every time they got the ball.

It's almost like you didn't even read what I wrote in the first paragraph.

1) They were doubling Dame and Giannis when they were both on the court.

2) There is no easy tactical solution when the rest of your roster sucks.

[BigO]

How many games are we gonna have in the playoffs where Giannis and Dame combine for only 34 total points on 28 shots? The loss itself is nothing to worry about, but this just again illustrates how awful of an offensive tactician Doc is. We're so **** easy to defend when only one of those dudes are on the court and the defense can just focus all their energy on getting the ball out of their hands.

It's why our offense in those bench lineups has largely just been giving the ball to Kevin Porter and letting him ISO shoot mid-rangers while praying the defense can pitch a shut out. It's why Kuzma only looks like a serviceable offensive player when there's actual ball-movement and he's cutting to the basket. And most importantly, it's why a team like Cleveland can have the #1 offense in basketball with two ball dominant guards who fit questionably together before Atkinson got there, and why we've completely wasted the Dame/Giannis duo's potential with dumb coaches who don't have a clear philosophy or plan for a modern NBA offense.

Nah. Perhaps you missed the Pacers doubling Dame and Giannis every time they got the ball. You can't do that with a healthy KM on the court. But you can with Kuzma, et al on the court.

And if Dame would have forced a ton of shots, then everyone would have blasted him.

This isn't a coaching problem. There's only one or two coaches who could elevate the talent on this roster and Atkinson isn't one of them, even though I liked him better than the other options last year.

Cleveland's 4 stars have been healthy all year. Not so last year. The coach Cleveland fired is probably going to be the coach of the year in Detroit.

Easy but wrong analysis to blame the coach. If Doc was a rigid coach and stuck to one scheme all the time, you'd have a better argument.

Blaming Horst is a better argument.

So you like Doc starting Prince at the 2 and having him defend them along with taking the most shots on a night like last night? If you like Doc you must like that strategy of his.

Prince had a good game.

But the main point is that there are NO good options. I wouldn't mind starting KPJ, but none of these options are good.

The idea that the Bucks would be significantly better if Doc just played different guys is fool's gold. None of these guys are difference makers.

[Ron Swanson]

Imagine Phil Jackson just shrugging and going "whelp, nothing we can do" when teams would constantly double Shaq and Kobe lol.

[MoreTrife]

Not a foul by Giannis imo, and the three pointer from Nembhard was a two. Really poor officiating.

Man that three/two by Nehmhard looked so obvious from across the court! Official right there. I didn't hear anyone mention it so I figured I must have seen it wrong.

[jimmybones]

The real question is why were all the Bucks dudes lined up at half court to defend??? Just have a line of dudes a step or two outside the 3P line, you know, the area you actually have to guard. HORRENDOUS coaching.

It was blowing my mind that they fell for that grade school level tactic. There's zero reason to be guarding them in the literal backcourt

[jimmybones]

We're not getting Boston or Cleveland so you don't need to worry. We're finishing 5-6 and losing first round.

Just such a disgusting way to lose a game. Like why does Giannis really have to be so **** dumb? A hard close out on a play like that? Why? They ran a football style play and our whole dumbass team took the bait. Why all 5 of our players weren’t comfortably spread around the perimeter just waiting for them to rush is absolutely mind blowing. Guard the 3pt line and make them take a 35’ bomb and live with whatever happens. Total **** from top to bottom.

You just want Giannis to stand there with his hands up? What sport is this? Can you frame up a worse strategy in just about any situation than stand there and wait? It was a dumb call, a dumb rule and a dumb team to be in that spot in the first place.

Yes, any strategy that allows any room for fouling a 3 point shooter is the only possible scenario you end that (3 second) possession DOWN. You should be at absolute worst tied. The risk of fouling there is nowhere near the "reward" of making a hard shot a tiny bit harder

[Matches Malone]

Doc needs to go.

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Of course, Haliburton wasn't available for that two-game miniseries. In his first game back after being sidelined for three games in a row due to a left hip flexor strain, the Pacers were contested on a lower percentage of their three-point attempts than in any game this season, with just 66.67 percent being launched with a defender making an effort to bother the shot. To put how many "good looks" they generated into further perspective, Milwaukee's average closest defender distance in this game was 9.589 feet, which is not only the highest average posted against the Pacers this season but also the highest average posted by any team in any game this season. As such, Haliburton didn't just knock down the dagger three, he also basically hit the nail on the head with his postgame synopsis.

Turns out, the closest defended three that anyone put up in this game for either team was Haliburton's miracle shot, with Antetokounmpo's distance from Haliburton logged at just 1.595 feet.

[emunney]

Just such a disgusting way to lose a game. Like why does Giannis really have to be so **** dumb? A hard close out on a play like that? Why? They ran a football style play and our whole dumbass team took the bait. Why all 5 of our players weren’t comfortably spread around the perimeter just waiting for them to rush is absolutely mind blowing. Guard the 3pt line and make them take a 35’ bomb and live with whatever happens. Total **** from top to bottom.

You just want Giannis to stand there with his hands up? What sport is this? Can you frame up a worse strategy in just about any situation than stand there and wait? It was a dumb call, a dumb rule and a dumb team to be in that spot in the first place.

Yes, any strategy that allows any room for fouling a 3 point shooter is the only possible scenario you end that (3 second) possession DOWN. You should be at absolute worst tied. The risk of fouling there is nowhere near the "reward" of making a hard shot a tiny bit harder

If it's not a hard contest, it's not a hard shot.

[ReddoverKobe]

Why is Trent taking a three with 8 seconds left on the shot clock, with 20 total seconds left and the bucks up 2? Giannis actually catches the ball with a full head of steam going to the basket off a good pass from dame and only Nesmith in front of him.

It was a perfectly good corner look off of great ball-movement that would have iced the game. Feels like this is a weird criticism. I guess you blame Giannis for kicking it out in the first place? Otherwise I don't know how you expect to get a better shot than that with 8-seconds on the clock.

Just seems like he kind of hot potatoed that pass a bit

[Bucksmaniac]

Nah. Perhaps you missed the Pacers doubling Dame and Giannis every time they got the ball. You can't do that with a healthy KM on the court. But you can with Kuzma, et al on the court.

And if Dame would have forced a ton of shots, then everyone would have blasted him.

This isn't a coaching problem. There's only one or two coaches who could elevate the talent on this roster and Atkinson isn't one of them, even though I liked him better than the other options last year.

Cleveland's 4 stars have been healthy all year. Not so last year. The coach Cleveland fired is probably going to be the coach of the year in Detroit.

Easy but wrong analysis to blame the coach. If Doc was a rigid coach and stuck to one scheme all the time, you'd have a better argument.

Blaming Horst is a better argument.

So you like Doc starting Prince at the 2 and having him defend them along with taking the most shots on a night like last night? If you like Doc you must like that strategy of his.

Prince had a good game.

But the main point is that there are NO good options. I wouldn't mind starting KPJ, but none of these options are good.

The idea that the Bucks would be significantly better if Doc just played different guys is fool's gold. None of these guys are difference makers.

The point is he doesn’t put the players in the best position to succeed. Trent would have a shot at being better in that role as he is actually more of a natural 2 guard, Prince is not.

[emunney]

Why is Trent taking a three with 8 seconds left on the shot clock, with 20 total seconds left and the bucks up 2? Giannis actually catches the ball with a full head of steam going to the basket off a good pass from dame and only Nesmith in front of him.

It was a perfectly good corner look off of great ball-movement that would have iced the game. Feels like this is a weird criticism. I guess you blame Giannis for kicking it out in the first place? Otherwise I don't know how you expect to get a better shot than that with 8-seconds on the clock.

Just seems like he kind of hot potatoed that pass a bit

It wasn't a great pass to Brook. Brook had to reach out to corral it and it gave Indy a little more time to rotate. It was the right pass though and not bad enough to prevent Trent from getting a clean look out of it.