2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3

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mccain was this years best rookie and richardsons game is very similar...the scouts let mccain slip im not sure they will let it happen to jase he could go higher than ppl think

#11 Miami - nice complement to Herro
#13 Dallas - eventual Kyrie replacement
#16 San Antonio (ATL) - need 3pt shooting, backs up Fox right away as CP3 moves on, and plays backup SG too.

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Noah was an elite passer.

moreso the size, length and mobility. Good rebounder. Active.
We likely going to go big if dont make top 4

Newell just keeps producing, but my thing for him in the NBA is if he’s big enough. If he measures 6’9” I don’t know if he’ll be better than a guy like WCJ. If he’s 6’11”+ he gets far more intriguing, but I seriously doubt he’s that tall. He looks pretty average sized out there for a big man.

he's gotta measure out really well. Taking a 6'9" C top 10 isn't good work but I imagine he's taller

[ArthurVandelay]

Maluach is starting to grow on me. I think he has a lot more than what he has shown thus far at Duke, but he's playing the role that has been asked of him.

Overall comparable stats to Williams and Lively, but younger than both his freshman year.

His rebounding %s have been increasing as the year has gone on. His offensive reb% is elite. His defense is now up to respectable.

Good read here:
https://theswishtheory.com/scouting-reports/khaman-maluach/

He has always been one of the most vocal players on the defensive side of the court, now clearly locked in with his teammates. Duke’s defense has a ridiculous 86.7 defensive rating when Khaman is on the court, compared to a still elite 90.1 when off. However, their opponents’ rim shooting goes down a sharp 12 percentage points from 57% to 45% when Maluach is on the court, and on lower volume, too (numbers versus top 100 teams only). The supporting cast is elite, but the numbers are what they’re supposed to be for a primary rim-protecting prospect.

Now my fear is if the Sixers pick goes to OKC and they pick ahead of Toronto, Maluach would be a very OKC type of pick as they have a need for his skillset and the patience to allow him to develop.

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Maluach is starting to grow on me. I think he has a lot more than what he has shown thus far at Duke, but he's playing the role that has been asked of him.

Overall comparable stats to Williams and Lively, but younger than both his freshman year.

His rebounding %s have been increasing as the year has gone on. His offensive reb% is elite. His defense is now up to respectable.

Good read here:
https://theswishtheory.com/scouting-reports/khaman-maluach/

He has always been one of the most vocal players on the defensive side of the court, now clearly locked in with his teammates. Duke’s defense has a ridiculous 86.7 defensive rating when Khaman is on the court, compared to a still elite 90.1 when off. However, their opponents’ rim shooting goes down a sharp 12 percentage points from 57% to 45% when Maluach is on the court, and on lower volume, too (numbers versus top 100 teams only). The supporting cast is elite, but the numbers are what they’re supposed to be for a primary rim-protecting prospect.

Now my fear is if the Sixers pick goes to OKC and they pick ahead of Toronto, Maluach would be a very OKC type of pick as they have a need for his skillset and the patience to allow him to develop.

I don't care if another team takes Maluach. Maybe he's Clingan that shoots FT's better.

Washington, Charlotte, Philly are all good fits.

[dballislife]

mccain was this years best rookie and richardsons game is very similar...the scouts let mccain slip im not sure they will let it happen to jase he could go higher than ppl think

#11 Miami - nice complement to Herro
#13 Dallas - eventual Kyrie replacement
#16 San Antonio (ATL) - need 3pt shooting, backs up Fox right away as CP3 moves on, and plays backup SG too.

no team needs shooting more than magic, he wont get pass orlando i would think, hes better than mcneeley and is a full year younger

[Yallbecrazy]

mccain was this years best rookie and richardsons game is very similar...the scouts let mccain slip im not sure they will let it happen to jase he could go higher than ppl think

I understand this type of thinking, but I'm not a fan (not this specific example, but generally)

A few years back everyone was looking for the next Donovan Mitchell and Jamal Murray so Jalen Green ended up going #2 ahead of Mobley, Barnes, Wagner, etc.

People are still looking for the next Durant and it lead to Bagley going #2 and in my opinion will lead to Ace Bailey being overdrafted this year.

There have been many Kyle Lowry comparisons over the last couple years amongst Raptor fans and many Giannis comparisons in general and I think they all have busted.

I'm all for comparisons, but I think one needs to find as many players as possible that fit the archetype that all have somewhat similar stats. They then can look at the number of successes and failures among similar players and compare what the prospect does relatively well to the group and if anything differentiated the success stories from the busts.

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[dballislife]

maluach is like a quicker and bouncier gobert, and hes already a better shooter

[billy_hoyle]

Maluach, Queen, Newell

That's who I think we will be getting

[Rapsfan07]

As we draw closer to the end of the year and keep sliding in the draft, I'm thinking more and more that trading down is the best way to go. Sucks that we're likely going to miss out on Flagg, VJ and Harper but there should still be some quality talent available later in the draft.

I would steer away from guys like Maluach, McNeeley, Demin, and Essengue as you could probably get more or less the same thing from guys later in the draft while also picking up assets from teams who are willing to trade up.

I've had my eyes on guys like Richardson, Fleming and Condon for a long time. Would also give Thiero a hard look if we're moving down as well.

Here's how I think the Top 10 will shape up:

Top 5 (In Order): Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe, Bailey, Johnson
Picks 5-10 (In any order): Maluach, Newell, Fears, Jakucionis, Queen

I could also see Richardson and Fleming moving into the lottery.

[NotMyKawhi]

No red flags at all 2 "superstars" on the same team couldnt get out of the 1st round of a conference tourny?

This draft isn't amen level. It's not scottie level. Not better than next year's draft.

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Their numbers are fine but I wouldn't call them winners. They should drop because it's unlikely they will ever lead a franchise, best strong secondary players. A shame.

[BoyzNTheHood]

As we draw closer to the end of the year and keep sliding in the draft, I'm thinking more and more that trading down is the best way to go. Sucks that we're likely going to miss out on Flagg, VJ and Harper but there should still be some quality talent available later in the draft.

I would steer away from guys like Maluach, McNeeley, Demin, and Essengue as you could probably get more or less the same thing from guys later in the draft while also picking up assets from teams who are willing to trade up.

I've had my eyes on guys like Richardson, Fleming and Condon for a long time. Would also give Thiero a hard look if we're moving down as well.

Here's how I think the Top 10 will shape up:

Top 5 (In Order): Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe, Bailey, Johnson
Picks 5-10 (In any order): Maluach, Newell, Fears, Jakucionis, Queen

I could also see Richardson and Fleming moving into the lottery.

Jak has to be dropped out of the top 10 at this point, imo. Richardson has replaced him, at least for me.

I’m trying my hardest to sell myself on Maluach because I can really see us going that route, but it’s a tough sell for me.

[JShuttlesworth]

I've gone on record saying that I think Maluach has been one of the more disappointing prospects this season (mostly because I had high expectations) -- but I still think he's a pretty interesting pick if we're picking outside the Top 5 or 6, and I feel like he's the type of prospect who will impress teams in workouts.

The Raptors need another big, and playing behind Jakob in the rotation is the perfect place to develop for a guy like Maluach. I really do think it's a great fit for him in Toronto long term

He'd be able to focus on defense and rebounding, something that would solve a big need for the Raptors bench. He still has a long way to go offensively, and I don't know if I buy that he'll ever the a stretch big that some people think he can become, but he's still intriguing.

[Indeed]

not loving fears 43% fg and 28% from 3...how he compare to fox as freshman?

Fox (2017 UK):

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DUNKS               At the rim                  Other 2-PT                  3-Pt Jumpers   
Tot    Pct.          Tot    Pct.    Ast'ed    Tot    Pct.    Ast'ed    Tot    Pct.    Ast'ed
20-21   95.2%      131-203   64.5%   19.1%      66-176   37.5%   19.7%      17-69   24.6%   76.5%


Fears (2025 OU):

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DUNKS               At the rim                  Other 2-PT                  3-Pt Jumpers   
Tot    Pct.          Tot    Pct.    Ast'ed    Tot    Pct.    Ast'ed    Tot    Pct.    Ast'ed
9-9   100.0%      88-165   53.3%   25.0%      43-94   45.7%   4.7%      34-120   28.3%   61.8%


Measurement will tell if Fox has better vertical / finishing. Fears currently is a slightly better shooter (still below average).
However, Fox is a much better defender. DBMP is 3.3, while Fears is only 0.9 (would UK be more stacked?).

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Richardson and McCain are two completely different players with different body types and games. McCain is a bull who knows how to exploit the 3 ball. Richardson is neither particularly fast or strong and he is a wizard from 2. So on physicals alone McCain is superior and on scoring diet he's superior while also possessing better lead guard tools.

Jase to me profiles as 6th man type combo guard. Less physically impressive Josh Hart but that lack of dimensions could hurt his outlook a fair deal. There's no denying he comes from a basketball family when you watch him.

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maluach is like a quicker and bouncier gobert, and hes already a better shooter

Maluach wingspan (probably standing reach as well) isn't close to Gobert.
I don't understand why people make that comparison, maybe just hype?

[Rodrickle]

maluach is like a quicker and bouncier gobert, and hes already a better shooter

Maluach wingspan (probably standing reach as well) isn't close to Gobert.
I don't understand why people make that comparison, maybe just hype?

Because Maluach has a 9'8 standing reach, Gobert last measurement was 9'7

[ArthurVandelay]

No red flags at all 2 "superstars" on the same team couldnt get out of the 1st round of a conference tourny?

This draft isn't amen level. It's not scottie level. Not better than next year's draft.

My draft outlook isn’t as high as it was in the fall. Still a better draft than last year though imo.