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Possible outcome of our season (WORST CASE SCENARIO).. 

Post#1 » by Beethoven » Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:47 pm

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Mar 22, 2025 10:30 PM ET v.Chicago
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Mar 31, 2025 10:30 PM ET v.Houston
Apr 3, 2025 10:00 PM ET v.Golden State
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Apr 9, 2025 7:30 PM ET @Dallas
Apr 11, 2025 10:30 PM ET v.Houston
Apr 13, 2025 3:30 PM ET @Portland

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These are the remaining games of the season (with possibly another makeup game at the end). This is a five week stretch, possibly the amount of time Lebron will be out (God forbid, and including ramping up in a playoffs games if/when he gets back)


Let say we lose alll 19 games above. (REMEMBER, DONCIC IS PLAYING WITH A HURT BACK FROM THE PELICANS GAME WHEN HE FELL ON HIS BACK AND HIT HIS HEAD)
This will put us at the final record of 40-42
Considering the current L10 win rate of the seeded teams, the possible (lenient, I gave them one more than reasonable each) records of these teams will be:



2 Denver Nuggets 42 23 6-4........................> 52-30
3 Golden State Warriors 37 28 9-1..................> 52-30
4 Memphis Grizzlies 41 24 5-5 ....................> 50-32
5 Houston Rockets 40 25 6-4 .......................> 50-32
6 Minnesota Timberwolves 37 29 6-4 ..............> 47-35
7 Los Angeles Clippers 35 30 4-6....................> 42-40
8 Sacramento Kings 33 31 5-5......................> 42-40
9 Lakers ...............................................................40-42
10 Phoenix Suns 30 35 4-6...........................> 37-45


We will be in a play-in game against Suns (or dallas mavericks, but I left them out considering they closed up their season) and then possibly against Kings/Clippers to have privilege to face OKC in first round.
However alas, losing all 19 games will instill a losing culture that will be hard to break out of, no matter how great lebron comes back.

Best realistic scenario is to win AT LEAST 7 games... this will put us at 47-35, tying us with Timberwolves to gain the 6seed. With a potential matchup with the surging warriors.

But which 7 games can they possibly manage to win? I dont really see it. Perhaps 4? 5? Not 7. What you think?
Trevor what you think? (I know you read these lol) ... What JJ think or Doncic/Lebron think most importantly.
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Re: Possible outcome of our season (WORST CASE SCENARIO).. 

Post#2 » by Beethoven » Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:44 pm

When will we get Rui back?
Is Hayes and DFS going to be back?

AR leading a strong frontcourt of Rui, DFS, Hayes, Vando (let's keep Doncic out of this for a bit)
will win you at least half these games.

The issue is NOT that Lebron is out.
It is our frontcourt has been depleted.


Everything should work itself out for the regular season if Hayes and Rui /DFS are back soon.

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Lebron's injury is an issue that will arise within the playoffs if he doesnt get back on track. (along with Doncic bad back)
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Post#3 » by LakerPhan » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:28 am

17 games, if they could go 10-7 and get all their players back by the playoffs that would be cool..

Lakers need stop shooting so many threes.
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Post#4 » by tamaraw08 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:27 pm

Beethoven wrote:When will we get Rui back?
Is Hayes and DFS going to be back?

AR leading a strong frontcourt of Rui, DFS, Hayes, Vando (let's keep Doncic out of this for a bit)
will win you at least half these games.

The issue is NOT that Lebron is out.
]It is our frontcourt has been depleted. ]


Everything should work itself out for the regular season if Hayes and Rui /DFS are back soon.

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Lebron's injury is an issue that will arise within the playoffs if he doesnt get back on track. (along with Doncic bad back)


Also note that Luka is not 100% with his sore back. :banghead:
You lose Rui, you still win.
You also lose Hayes, can probably win against decent teams.
Lose James, ouch! but can still win vs bad teams.
But the DFS injury annoyed me the most because he is the ONE only guy who can defend multiple positions AND hit 3's.
Somehow I was a fool to believe that they will beat the Nets with 3 Luka,AR and Knecht but losing James AND DFS pretty exposed their lack of defensive wings.
JJ won't play Reddish and barely plays Vando because they are such liabilities on offense and they destroy your spacing.
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Post#5 » by Beethoven » Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:22 pm

LakerPhan wrote:17 games, if they could go 10-7 and get all their players back by the playoffs that would be cool..

Lakers need stop shooting so many threes.

If they go 10-7 (nineteen games total though) that would be amazing that would put us square into 4/5 seed. Problem is, looking at the schedule, which 10 games you win? Not much choice there.
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Post#6 » by Beethoven » Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:24 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:

Also note that Luka is not 100% with his sore back. :banghead:
You lose Rui, you still win.
You also lose Hayes, can probably win against decent teams.
Lose James, ouch! but can still win vs bad teams.
But the DFS injury annoyed me the most because he is the ONE only guy who can defend multiple positions AND hit 3's.
Somehow I was a fool to believe that they will beat the Nets with 3 Luka,AR and Knecht but losing James AND DFS pretty exposed their lack of defensive wings.
JJ won't play Reddish and barely plays Vando because they are such liabilities on offense and they destroy your spacing.

Yeah Luka completely fell directly onto his back in the pelicans game. If you find that replay on youtube somewhere it is a very bad fall. I was shocked he kept playing and into the next games and that no one has mentioned anything about this.

It is like a fall you would take if you were standing on a chair trying to fix something on a ceiling and slipping and falling onto your back onto a hard floor. That bad.
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Post#7 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:35 pm

LakerPhan wrote:
Lakers need stop shooting so many threes.


That's the reason they lost to Celtics, they were playing Celtics ball, not Lakers. Heck Reaves wasn't even driving much, he was shooting more
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Post#8 » by Beethoven » Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:47 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:
LakerPhan wrote:
Lakers need stop shooting so many threes.


That's the reason they lost to Celtics, they were playing Celtics ball, not Lakers. Heck Reaves wasn't even driving much, he was shooting more

I dont think Celtics can beat us when we are equalized in health, head-to-head.
We almost beat them last game with Lebron limping out to the locker room and the whole team being a bit demoralized. And without Rui and Hayes. Luka dealing with a hurt back.
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Post#9 » by danfantastk32 » Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:11 pm

So I'm reading that Lebron is progressing, and should be back in a week or two.

1) Make it 2 1/2. Let that damn thing heal 100%
2) Sit Luka and get that back sorted out. Give it a week / 10 days.
3) The regular season is meaningless (aint that the truth) if Lebron or Luka are still favoring 3/4 healed injuries come postseason.

Just get right. This league is so amazingly weak and awful right now, that we'll find a few wins in there. And if not..then oh well. Once they are back 100%, we can worry about seeding.

Prob wouldn't be the end of the world if we went into the playoffs with Lebron having had a month off.
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Post#10 » by Beethoven » Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:20 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:So I'm reading that Lebron is progressing, and should be back in a week or two.

1) Make it 2 1/2. Let that damn thing heal 100%
2) Sit Luka and get that back sorted out. Give it a week / 10 days.
3) The regular season is meaningless (aint that the truth) if Lebron or Luka are still favoring 3/4 healed injuries come postseason.

Just get right. This league is so amazingly weak and awful right now, that we'll find a few wins in there. And if not..then oh well. Once they are back 100%, we can worry about seeding.

Prob wouldn't be the end of the world if we went into the playoffs with Lebron having had a month off.

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Post#11 » by LAKESHOW » Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:53 am

I'm saying we are going to make it to the Final 4 IF HEALTHY. To move beyond that to the Final 2 and or eventual Champions, will need extraordinary defense and execution. Something i believe we will have next year due to chemistry and longevity together, but this year without truly playing together for a long time is going to take a herculean effort
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Post#12 » by Beethoven » Fri Mar 14, 2025 5:26 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:I'm saying we are going to make it to the Final 4 IF HEALTHY. To move beyond that to the Final 2 and or eventual Champions, will need extraordinary defense and execution. Something i believe we will have next year due to chemistry and longevity together, but this year without truly playing together for a long time is going to take a herculean effort

I go out on a limb and say our only nemesis is health. If fully healthy, we will win the whole thing. That is how much I believe this team, currently constructed, is better than okc KFC ufc and boston
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Post#13 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:30 pm

Beethoven wrote:
LAKESHOW wrote:I'm saying we are going to make it to the Final 4 IF HEALTHY. To move beyond that to the Final 2 and or eventual Champions, will need extraordinary defense and execution. Something i believe we will have next year due to chemistry and longevity together, but this year without truly playing together for a long time is going to take a herculean effort

I go out on a limb and say our only nemesis is health. If fully healthy, we will win the whole thing. That is how much I believe this team, currently constructed, is better than okc KFC ufc and boston


I think our lack of any real big (Center or PF) make it nearly impossible, but if the team locks in on D, and Lebron and Luka get hot in the postseason, I suppose it's doable. I wouldn't put any money on them winning the whole thing, personally....but hey...God bless ya if your right. Certainly would be awesome.

I'm still stickin with OKC. They are still a little young....but I just don't see any real talented teams out there. Like I've said before...the 2008 Celtics?? Do they even lose a game in the post season? I wouldn't think so. Same with that 2008-9-10 Lakers. I don't think they lose a game either. And neither of those squads would be in my "top dynasty team" list. They were really good, but not all-time, or anything.
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Post#14 » by Astaluego » Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:14 pm

I'm rooting for Luka and therefore the Lakers...there's no way this Lakers team is going to beat Boston in a 7 game series (without any major losses)...those guys are Luka's kryptonite, I think a little restructuring is needed to play them..they won't survive with a Luka/Reaves backcourt..Tatum/Brown will take turns attacking them relentlessly, they're infinitely more physical, faster (I've seen that movie with Lukai) they need to get some athletic, defensive wings (Wiggins, OG, Suggs) that can hold their own against the opposing stars and wear them down.
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Post#15 » by tamaraw08 » Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:46 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:
Beethoven wrote:
LAKESHOW wrote:I'm saying we are going to make it to the Final 4 IF HEALTHY. To move beyond that to the Final 2 and or eventual Champions, will need extraordinary defense and execution. Something i believe we will have next year due to chemistry and longevity together, but this year without truly playing together for a long time is going to take a herculean effort

I go out on a limb and say our only nemesis is health. If fully healthy, we will win the whole thing. That is how much I believe this team, currently constructed, is better than okc KFC ufc and boston


I think our lack of any real big (Center or PF) make it nearly impossible, but if the team locks in on D, and Lebron and Luka get hot in the postseason, I suppose it's doable. I wouldn't put any money on them winning the whole thing, personally....but hey...God bless ya if your right. Certainly would be awesome.

I'm still stickin with OKC. They are still a little young....
but I just don't see any real talented teams out there. Like I've said before...the 2008 Celtics?? Do they even lose a game in the post season? I wouldn't think so. [

It's interesting to note that the 08 Champs needed 21 games (3 game 7's) to advance to the Finals that year, losing 9 games total to Hawks, Cavs and Pistons before demolishing the Lakers in 6 games.
But yes, that team was formidable, remembering how KG was still young and gritty and Posey was long and versatile while arguably ATG defender Tony Allen would force tough shots to the opposing best players.
I guess they played with their food so to speak.

Same with that 2008-9-10 Lakers. I don't think they lose a game either. And neither of those squads would be in my "top dynasty team" list. They were really good, but not all-time, or anything.

The most dominating playoff team for me was the 01 Lakers losing one playoff game total in OT to the Sixers, while sweeping tough playoff opponents Blazers, Kings and the favored Spurs in the WC.
Shaq was still relatively young while Kobe was blossoming and Fish and Horry were so clutch and Fox was a good enough defender.
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Post#16 » by danfantastk32 » Sat Mar 15, 2025 6:07 pm

tamaraw08 wrote: The most dominating playoff team for me was the 01 Lakers losing one playoff game total in OT to the Sixers, while sweeping tough playoff opponents Blazers, Kings and the favored Spurs in the WC.
Shaq was still relatively young while Kobe was blossoming and Fish and Horry were so clutch and Fox was a good enough defender.


Yes, I didn't include that team because I thought the lesser (But still great) 08-9-10 Lakers would be good enough. And yes, that 08 Celtic team did lose alot. But they certainly wouldn't right now.

But any of the really good teams of late (The 00-01-02) Lakers...or any of the Duncan Spurs teams....I mean, It'd be a bloodbath.
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Post#17 » by Beethoven » Sun Mar 16, 2025 6:20 pm

Considering the stretch in the op topic, if we win today, we'll be par for the course for the realistic best case scenario of 7 wins.
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Post#18 » by Beethoven » Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:04 am

Let's revisit our last 6 losses:

I know could've/should've however looking at them from a biased laker fan perspective:

1 Utah loss. Should've won. Everyone just checked out.

2 Charlotte loss. Dunno. Should've won this won.

3 Boston loss. We should have won possibly. Lebron limping out of the arena when we were about to tie the game just dismantled the team mentally.

4 nets loss yeah we should've won this one. We did everything we can to hand this game over to them.

5 Milwaukee loss this is the only bona fide loss we got our asses handed to us for not having a frontcourt at all.

6 denver. We were winning by 6 points last min of the game. Refs did all they can to give this one to the mcnuggetz.



We should be sitting pretty at 46-20 really.
Just look at the losses above.
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Post#19 » by Beethoven » Fri Mar 21, 2025 10:17 pm

13 games remaining


Mar 22, 2025 10:30 PM ET v.Chicago
Mar 24, 2025 7:00 PM ET @Orlando
Mar 26, 2025 7:30 PM ET @Indiana
Mar 27, 2025 8:00 PM ET @Chicago
Mar 29, 2025 8:00 PM ET @Memphis
Mar 31, 2025 10:30 PM ET v.Houston
Apr 3, 2025 10:00 PM ET v.Golden State
Apr 4, 2025 10:30 PM ET v.New Orleans
Apr 6, 2025 3:30 PM ET @Oklahoma City
Apr 8, 2025 8:00 PM ET @Oklahoma City
Apr 9, 2025 7:30 PM ET @Dallas
Apr 11, 2025 10:30 PM ET v.Houston
Apr 13, 2025 3:30 PM ET @Portland


Can we win half of these? As long as we can avoid 4th seed and lower, I think we will be set.


Winning half of these will squarely put us tie with gsw as they're expected to end up with 33 losses by end of season. That ll put us at 6th seed.


That is our worst case scenario now going forward from here. 6th seed.
If we win 3 more games, we can got to 30 losses and hopefully that will let us leap frog into 3rd seed.
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9-4 will guarantee 5th seed at least 

Post#20 » by Beethoven » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:07 am

Ok, now gsw gonna lose today :rock:

That means to guarantee a 5th seed for us,

We need to lose at MOST 4 GAMES.


(as we have tiebreaker against gsw, so even if gsw wins out their remaining 11 games, we will put gsw into the 6th seed).

Can we go 9-4 from here on out????


We will be 5th seed guaranteed if we do.
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