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Post#1621 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:41 pm

Brunson for Trey Murphy III
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Post#1622 » by dakomish23 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:01 pm

Do we have room to sign this guy? Moses Brown had some nice games for DAL but they couldn't keep him b/c of the cap

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Post#1623 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:52 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Brunson for Trey Murphy III


Brunson for Batum plus picks!
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Post#1624 » by Signature NYK » Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:21 pm

Firing Thibs is the most common and widly accepted option if we fail this summer... but even if we move off from Thibs will we be able to rely on Kat as a defender ever?

Insane 3 team deal to give Thibs his optimal defense. And better fitting firepower on offense

KAT to PHX (Make book happy by pairing Book with his Wildcat teammate)
KD and Turner (Sign and Trade) to NY (KD moves to a contender and Turner gets closer to his CAA gang members)
Deuce + Dadiet + Mitch + Salary filler + 2nds to IND (Get cost controlled young talent for an expiring contract)

Turner/Huk
KD/Precious
OG/Hart
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Kolek

We can also reroute KD to DAL if he wants to be with his BFF Kyrie again

Turner/Huk
AD/Precious
OG/Hart
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Kolek

... ducks for cover
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Post#1625 » by Spree2Houston » Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:58 pm

Signature NYK wrote:Firing Thibs is the most common and widly accepted option if we fail this summer... but even if we move off from Thibs will we be able to rely on Kat as a defender ever?

Insane 3 team deal to give Thibs his optimal defense. And better fitting firepower on offense

KAT to PHX (Make book happy by pairing Book with his Wildcat teammate)
KD and Turner (Sign and Trade) to NY (KD moves to a contender and Turner gets closer to his CAA gang members)
Deuce + Dadiet + Mitch + Salary filler + 2nds to IND (Get cost controlled young talent for an expiring contract)

Turner/Huk
KD/Precious
OG/Hart
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Kolek

We can also reroute KD to DAL if he wants to be with his BFF Kyrie again

Turner/Huk
AD/Precious
OG/Hart
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Kolek

... ducks for cover


KAT for Booker
OG for Bam
Mitch and Assets for Myles Turner

Brunson
Booker
Bridges
Bam
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Post#1626 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:04 am

Signature NYK wrote:Firing Thibs is the most common and widly accepted option if we fail this summer... but even if we move off from Thibs will we be able to rely on Kat as a defender ever?

Insane 3 team deal to give Thibs his optimal defense. And better fitting firepower on offense

KAT to PHX (Make book happy by pairing Book with his Wildcat teammate)
KD and Turner (Sign and Trade) to NY (KD moves to a contender and Turner gets closer to his CAA gang members)
Deuce + Dadiet + Mitch + Salary filler + 2nds to IND (Get cost controlled young talent for an expiring contract)

Turner/Huk
KD/Precious
OG/Hart
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Kolek

We can also reroute KD to DAL if he wants to be with his BFF Kyrie again

Turner/Huk
AD/Precious
OG/Hart
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Kolek

... ducks for cover

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Post#1627 » by R-DAWG » Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:52 am

Spree2Houston wrote:
Signature NYK wrote:Firing Thibs is the most common and widly accepted option if we fail this summer... but even if we move off from Thibs will we be able to rely on Kat as a defender ever?

Insane 3 team deal to give Thibs his optimal defense. And better fitting firepower on offense

KAT to PHX (Make book happy by pairing Book with his Wildcat teammate)
KD and Turner (Sign and Trade) to NY (KD moves to a contender and Turner gets closer to his CAA gang members)
Deuce + Dadiet + Mitch + Salary filler + 2nds to IND (Get cost controlled young talent for an expiring contract)

Turner/Huk
KD/Precious
OG/Hart
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Kolek

We can also reroute KD to DAL if he wants to be with his BFF Kyrie again

Turner/Huk
AD/Precious
OG/Hart
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Kolek

... ducks for cover


KAT for Booker
OG for Bam
Mitch and Assets for Myles Turner

Brunson
Booker
Bridges
Bam
Turner


NY won’t be able to acquire Turner via sign and trade since there is no realistic way to get below the 1st apron. But Turner would be a perfect fit next to Towns.

The Bam concept is interesting, but the only way we can acquire him for OG is if his contract extension is seen as a negative. But he would be a great fit next to Towns as an elite backend defender and secondary playmaker. I guess in 27 and 28 we are locked into being a second apron team so why not soar above it - paying Towns/Bam a combined $110mm.

But conceptually - a front court surrounding Towns with Bam and Bridges - a 3 and D wing and a rim protector who can create outside the paint - makes a lot of sense
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Post#1628 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:03 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Signature NYK wrote:Firing Thibs is the most common and widly accepted option if we fail this summer... but even if we move off from Thibs will we be able to rely on Kat as a defender ever?

Insane 3 team deal to give Thibs his optimal defense. And better fitting firepower on offense

KAT to PHX (Make book happy by pairing Book with his Wildcat teammate)
KD and Turner (Sign and Trade) to NY (KD moves to a contender and Turner gets closer to his CAA gang members)
Deuce + Dadiet + Mitch + Salary filler + 2nds to IND (Get cost controlled young talent for an expiring contract)

Turner/Huk
KD/Precious
OG/Hart
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Kolek

We can also reroute KD to DAL if he wants to be with his BFF Kyrie again

Turner/Huk
AD/Precious
OG/Hart
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Kolek

... ducks for cover

This guy knows ball

2k is not ball
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion 

Post#1629 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:14 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Signature NYK wrote:Firing Thibs is the most common and widly accepted option if we fail this summer... but even if we move off from Thibs will we be able to rely on Kat as a defender ever?

Insane 3 team deal to give Thibs his optimal defense. And better fitting firepower on offense

KAT to PHX (Make book happy by pairing Book with his Wildcat teammate)
KD and Turner (Sign and Trade) to NY (KD moves to a contender and Turner gets closer to his CAA gang members)
Deuce + Dadiet + Mitch + Salary filler + 2nds to IND (Get cost controlled young talent for an expiring contract)

Turner/Huk
KD/Precious
OG/Hart
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Kolek

We can also reroute KD to DAL if he wants to be with his BFF Kyrie again

Turner/Huk
AD/Precious
OG/Hart
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Kolek

... ducks for cover

This guy knows ball

2k is not ball

This current Knicks team is full of big names but they’re awfully fit together like an Isaiah Thomas built team. Sorry not sorry.
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Post#1630 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:17 pm

Giannis has been talked about as if he had been heard somewhere openly talking about joining us and to me he is still a top three player in this NBA, but he won’t leave Milwaukee imo.

Davis may be better than Towns, but he is still a worse shooter and never healthy.

Durant is really getting older… one of the goats, but no thanks, not for towns.

Adebayo may actually be one player to be moved by his team soon and who we should love to add, but he won’t be available if you don’t provide an up and coming franchise-level player in return. And no, OG won’t suffice and the middling picks we gave up for Bridges could not change that outlook.

Turner would be perfect for us, but we shouldn’t consider trading core pieces for such a player. He’s the type you add to finish the product.

Phoenix should never let go of Booker. He’s too good.

Which other wild fantasies have posters had?

I think that with Brunson out, everybody should have learned their lessons on the value of depth and how talented our oh-so-terrible wings really are. It’s always easy to trash role players for up and down output, but it does look foolish to me.

Bottom line, we should be very happy with the talent surrounding Brunson already.
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Post#1631 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:17 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:This guy knows ball

2k is not ball

This current Knicks team is full of big names but they’re awfully fit together like an Isaiah Thomas built team. Sorry not sorry.

I respectfully disagree with every word you say.
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Post#1632 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:21 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:2k is not ball

This current Knicks team is full of big names but they’re awfully fit together like an Isaiah Thomas built team. Sorry not sorry.

I respectfully disagree with every word you say.

Likewise sir :wordyo:
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion 

Post#1633 » by Signature NYK » Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:44 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Signature NYK wrote:Firing Thibs is the most common and widly accepted option if we fail this summer... but even if we move off from Thibs will we be able to rely on Kat as a defender ever?

Insane 3 team deal to give Thibs his optimal defense. And better fitting firepower on offense

KAT to PHX (Make book happy by pairing Book with his Wildcat teammate)
KD and Turner (Sign and Trade) to NY (KD moves to a contender and Turner gets closer to his CAA gang members)
Deuce + Dadiet + Mitch + Salary filler + 2nds to IND (Get cost controlled young talent for an expiring contract)

Turner/Huk
KD/Precious
OG/Hart
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Kolek

We can also reroute KD to DAL if he wants to be with his BFF Kyrie again

Turner/Huk
AD/Precious
OG/Hart
Mikal/Hart
Brunson/Kolek

... ducks for cover

This guy knows ball

2k is not ball



Lmao I don't think its 2K it's more about scheme.

Mikal excelled defensively in Phx in part because Monty used to put Ayton in drop. Ayton was capable of tracking both the ball handler and the roll man after the screen was set. KAT has notoriously struggled in the space and he also struggles defending man to man 4s on the perimeter.

The lineup I have constructed would put Turner in drop, an area he excels in or at least performs better than KAT, and KD in KAT's place for man-to-man defending the 4. Or OG if we choose to switch.

In general, I will acknowledge that we'd have more consistent defensive pressure and measures for a significant drop in Rebounding.

Beyond the defensive end, we will be able to play a true 5 out offense with a Turner-KD-OG-Mikal-Brunson starting 5.

Also i have more faith in KD as a late game option to score in isolation than legit anyone on the current roster besides Brunson (maybe even moreso than Brunson...)

All that said, KD is also significantly Older than KAT and making a pretty penny (but for less time than KAT)

Others have mentioned Turner as an option at the 5 with KAT but again KAT struggles defending mobile 4s too.

Unless we can unlock Kentucky KAT on the defensive end, it's going to be hard to win a championship.

The other move is getting an Offensive Guru at coach that's much more creative in both late game and overall scheming to get easier scoring throughout the games...

To me, it's a pretty critical offseason where we have to ask some pretty real questions.

Is Thibs the coach to bring us to the promise land? Even if we got him an ideal roster going to net us a chip?
Can a new Coach get the best out of this Roster's core?
Can Kat and Thibs coexist?

As far as the dollar as feasibility of this all is probably moot based on apron restrictions but until we are actually a 2nd Apron team it seems a lot is still possible
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Post#1634 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:50 pm

Signature NYK wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:This guy knows ball

2k is not ball



Lmao I don't think its 2K it's more about scheme.

Mikal excelled defensively in Phx in part because Monty used to put Ayton in drop. Ayton was capable of tracking both the ball handler and the roll man after the screen was set. KAT has notoriously struggled in the space and he also struggles defending man to man 4s on the perimeter.

The lineup I have constructed would put Turner in drop, an area he excels in or at least performs better than KAT, and KD in KAT's place for man-to-man defending the 4. Or OG if we choose to switch.

In general, I will acknowledge that we'd have more consistent defensive pressure and measures for a significant drop in Rebounding.

Beyond the defensive end, we will be able to play a true 5 out offense with a Turner-KD-OG-Mikal-Brunson starting 5.

Also i have more faith in KD as a late game option to score in isolation than legit anyone on the current roster besides Brunson (maybe even moreso than Brunson...)

All that said, KD is also significantly Older than KAT and making a pretty penny (but for less time than KAT)

Others have mentioned Turner as an option at the 5 with KAT but again KAT struggles defending mobile 4s too.

Unless we can unlock Kentucky KAT on the defensive end, it's going to be hard to win a championship.

The other move is getting an Offensive Guru at coach that's much more creative in both late game and overall scheming to get easier scoring throughout the games...

To me, it's a pretty critical offseason where we have to ask some pretty real questions.

Is Thibs the coach to bring us to the promise land? Even if we got him an ideal roster going to net us a chip?
Can a new Coach get the best out of this Roster's core?
Can Kat and Thibs coexist?

As far as the dollar as feasibility of this all is probably moot based on apron restrictions but until we are actually a 2nd Apron team it seems a lot is still possible




Look I posted the following bit further above, I think that most parts of it are undeniable:

Giannis has been talked about as if he had been heard somewhere openly talking about joining us and to me he is still a top three player in this NBA, but he won’t leave Milwaukee imo.

Davis may be better than Towns, but he is still a worse shooter and never healthy.

Durant is really getting older… one of the goats, but no thanks, not for towns.

Adebayo may actually be one player to be moved by his team soon and who we should love to add, but he won’t be available if you don’t provide an up and coming franchise-level player in return. And no, OG won’t suffice and the middling picks we gave up for Bridges could not change that outlook.

Turner would be perfect for us, but we shouldn’t consider trading core pieces for such a player. He’s the type you add to finish the product.

Phoenix should never let go of Booker. He’s too good.

Which other wild fantasies have posters had?

I think that with Brunson out, everybody should have learned their lessons on the value of depth and how talented our oh-so-terrible wings really are. It’s always easy to trash role players for up and down output, but it does look foolish to me.

Bottom line, we should be very happy with the talent surrounding Brunson already.
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Post#1635 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Mar 13, 2025 4:54 pm

Signature NYK wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:This guy knows ball

2k is not ball



Lmao I don't think its 2K it's more about scheme.

Mikal excelled defensively in Phx in part because Monty used to put Ayton in drop. Ayton was capable of tracking both the ball handler and the roll man after the screen was set. KAT has notoriously struggled in the space and he also struggles defending man to man 4s on the perimeter.

The lineup I have constructed would put Turner in drop, an area he excels in or at least performs better than KAT, and KD in KAT's place for man-to-man defending the 4. Or OG if we choose to switch.

In general, I will acknowledge that we'd have more consistent defensive pressure and measures for a significant drop in Rebounding.

Beyond the defensive end, we will be able to play a true 5 out offense with a Turner-KD-OG-Mikal-Brunson starting 5.

Also i have more faith in KD as a late game option to score in isolation than legit anyone on the current roster besides Brunson (maybe even moreso than Brunson...)

All that said, KD is also significantly Older than KAT and making a pretty penny (but for less time than KAT)

Others have mentioned Turner as an option at the 5 with KAT but again KAT struggles defending mobile 4s too.

Unless we can unlock Kentucky KAT on the defensive end, it's going to be hard to win a championship.

The other move is getting an Offensive Guru at coach that's much more creative in both late game and overall scheming to get easier scoring throughout the games...

To me, it's a pretty critical offseason where we have to ask some pretty real questions.

Is Thibs the coach to bring us to the promise land? Even if we got him an ideal roster going to net us a chip?
Can a new Coach get the best out of this Roster's core?
Can Kat and Thibs coexist?

As far as the dollar as feasibility of this all is probably moot based on apron restrictions but until we are actually a 2nd Apron team it seems a lot is still possible

Excellent basketball analysis that is undeniable
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Post#1636 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Mar 13, 2025 5:00 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Signature NYK wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:2k is not ball



Lmao I don't think its 2K it's more about scheme.

Mikal excelled defensively in Phx in part because Monty used to put Ayton in drop. Ayton was capable of tracking both the ball handler and the roll man after the screen was set. KAT has notoriously struggled in the space and he also struggles defending man to man 4s on the perimeter.

The lineup I have constructed would put Turner in drop, an area he excels in or at least performs better than KAT, and KD in KAT's place for man-to-man defending the 4. Or OG if we choose to switch.

In general, I will acknowledge that we'd have more consistent defensive pressure and measures for a significant drop in Rebounding.

Beyond the defensive end, we will be able to play a true 5 out offense with a Turner-KD-OG-Mikal-Brunson starting 5.

Also i have more faith in KD as a late game option to score in isolation than legit anyone on the current roster besides Brunson (maybe even moreso than Brunson...)

All that said, KD is also significantly Older than KAT and making a pretty penny (but for less time than KAT)

Others have mentioned Turner as an option at the 5 with KAT but again KAT struggles defending mobile 4s too.

Unless we can unlock Kentucky KAT on the defensive end, it's going to be hard to win a championship.

The other move is getting an Offensive Guru at coach that's much more creative in both late game and overall scheming to get easier scoring throughout the games...

To me, it's a pretty critical offseason where we have to ask some pretty real questions.

Is Thibs the coach to bring us to the promise land? Even if we got him an ideal roster going to net us a chip?
Can a new Coach get the best out of this Roster's core?
Can Kat and Thibs coexist?

As far as the dollar as feasibility of this all is probably moot based on apron restrictions but until we are actually a 2nd Apron team it seems a lot is still possible

Excellent basketball analysis that is undeniable

You misspelled unrealistic. I’m one of Myles Turner’s biggest fans and already years ago thought he’d look good here instead of Randle. Let’s hope maybe that part of these wild fantasies somehow comes true - at least it carries some reasonable logic. Who do you trade for him though?
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Post#1637 » by Signature NYK » Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:57 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Signature NYK wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:2k is not ball



Lmao I don't think its 2K it's more about scheme.

Mikal excelled defensively in Phx in part because Monty used to put Ayton in drop. Ayton was capable of tracking both the ball handler and the roll man after the screen was set. KAT has notoriously struggled in the space and he also struggles defending man to man 4s on the perimeter.

The lineup I have constructed would put Turner in drop, an area he excels in or at least performs better than KAT, and KD in KAT's place for man-to-man defending the 4. Or OG if we choose to switch.

In general, I will acknowledge that we'd have more consistent defensive pressure and measures for a significant drop in Rebounding.

Beyond the defensive end, we will be able to play a true 5 out offense with a Turner-KD-OG-Mikal-Brunson starting 5.

Also i have more faith in KD as a late game option to score in isolation than legit anyone on the current roster besides Brunson (maybe even moreso than Brunson...)

All that said, KD is also significantly Older than KAT and making a pretty penny (but for less time than KAT)

Others have mentioned Turner as an option at the 5 with KAT but again KAT struggles defending mobile 4s too.

Unless we can unlock Kentucky KAT on the defensive end, it's going to be hard to win a championship.

The other move is getting an Offensive Guru at coach that's much more creative in both late game and overall scheming to get easier scoring throughout the games...

To me, it's a pretty critical offseason where we have to ask some pretty real questions.

Is Thibs the coach to bring us to the promise land? Even if we got him an ideal roster going to net us a chip?
Can a new Coach get the best out of this Roster's core?
Can Kat and Thibs coexist?

As far as the dollar as feasibility of this all is probably moot based on apron restrictions but until we are actually a 2nd Apron team it seems a lot is still possible

Excellent basketball analysis that is undeniable


Lmao thanks although Idk about undeniable (I have a feeling that piece isnt meant for me lol)
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Post#1638 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:01 pm

What was the point of keeping Precious? He's really not going to play much, and it's doubtful that we retain him in the offseason.
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Post#1639 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:11 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:What was the point of keeping Precious? He's really not going to play much, and it's doubtful that we retain him in the offseason.

Mitch insurance
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Post#1640 » by WargamesX » Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:22 am

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:What was the point of keeping Precious? He's really not going to play much, and it's doubtful that we retain him in the offseason.

Mitch insurance

We can still sign and trade him with an asset for another player too. If someone wants to come here as a UFA or even a RFA we can trade him for them and to skirt around not having cap space. Maybe we add a second rounder.
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