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Indeed wrote:dballislife wrote:maluach is like a quicker and bouncier gobert, and hes already a better shooter
Maluach wingspan (probably standing reach as well) isn't close to Gobert.
I don't understand why people make that comparison, maybe just hype?
ArthurVandelay wrote:Indeed wrote:dballislife wrote:maluach is like a quicker and bouncier gobert, and hes already a better shooter
Maluach wingspan (probably standing reach as well) isn't close to Gobert.
I don't understand why people make that comparison, maybe just hype?
His standing reach is supposed to be higher than Wemby.
Looking forward to draft measurements.
billy_hoyle wrote:Maluach, Queen, Newell
That's who I think we will be getting
*INGRAM*ALLSTARSEASON* Wemby is HIM
Rapsfan07 wrote:As we draw closer to the end of the year and keep sliding in the draft, I'm thinking more and more that trading down is the best way to go. Sucks that we're likely going to miss out on Flagg, VJ and Harper but there should still be some quality talent available later in the draft.
I would steer away from guys like Maluach, McNeeley, Demin, and Essengue as you could probably get more or less the same thing from guys later in the draft while also picking up assets from teams who are willing to trade up.
I've had my eyes on guys like Richardson, Fleming and Condon for a long time. Would also give Thiero a hard look if we're moving down as well.
Here's how I think the Top 10 will shape up:
Top 5 (In Order): Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe, Bailey, Johnson
Picks 5-10 (In any order): Maluach, Newell, Fears, Jakucionis, Queen
I could also see Richardson and Fleming moving into the lottery.
BoyzNTheHood wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:As we draw closer to the end of the year and keep sliding in the draft, I'm thinking more and more that trading down is the best way to go. Sucks that we're likely going to miss out on Flagg, VJ and Harper but there should still be some quality talent available later in the draft.
I would steer away from guys like Maluach, McNeeley, Demin, and Essengue as you could probably get more or less the same thing from guys later in the draft while also picking up assets from teams who are willing to trade up.
I've had my eyes on guys like Richardson, Fleming and Condon for a long time. Would also give Thiero a hard look if we're moving down as well.
Here's how I think the Top 10 will shape up:
Top 5 (In Order): Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe, Bailey, Johnson
Picks 5-10 (In any order): Maluach, Newell, Fears, Jakucionis, Queen
I could also see Richardson and Fleming moving into the lottery.
Jak has to be dropped out of the top 10 at this point, imo. Richardson has replaced him, at least for me.
I’m trying my hardest to sell myself on Maluach because I can really see us going that route, but it’s a tough sell for me.
JShuttlesworth wrote:I've gone on record saying that I think Maluach has been one of the more disappointing prospects this season (mostly because I had high expectations) -- but I still think he's a pretty interesting pick if we're picking outside the Top 5 or 6, and I feel like he's the type of prospect who will impress teams in workouts.
The Raptors need another big, and playing behind Jakob in the rotation is the perfect place to develop for a guy like Maluach. I really do think it's a great fit for him in Toronto long term
He'd be able to focus on defense and rebounding, something that would solve a big need for the Raptors bench. He still has a long way to go offensively, and I don't know if I buy that he'll ever the a stretch big that some people think he can become, but he's still intriguing.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
Psubs wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:As we draw closer to the end of the year and keep sliding in the draft, I'm thinking more and more that trading down is the best way to go. Sucks that we're likely going to miss out on Flagg, VJ and Harper but there should still be some quality talent available later in the draft.
I would steer away from guys like Maluach, McNeeley, Demin, and Essengue as you could probably get more or less the same thing from guys later in the draft while also picking up assets from teams who are willing to trade up.
I've had my eyes on guys like Richardson, Fleming and Condon for a long time. Would also give Thiero a hard look if we're moving down as well.
Here's how I think the Top 10 will shape up:
Top 5 (In Order): Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe, Bailey, Johnson
Picks 5-10 (In any order): Maluach, Newell, Fears, Jakucionis, Queen
I could also see Richardson and Fleming moving into the lottery.
Thiero may never shoot the 3 well. I think he's like a Cam Whitmore type of prospect. I don't really think we need a tweener forward that can't shoot.
BoyzNTheHood wrote:JShuttlesworth wrote:I've gone on record saying that I think Maluach has been one of the more disappointing prospects this season (mostly because I had high expectations) -- but I still think he's a pretty interesting pick if we're picking outside the Top 5 or 6, and I feel like he's the type of prospect who will impress teams in workouts.
The Raptors need another big, and playing behind Jakob in the rotation is the perfect place to develop for a guy like Maluach. I really do think it's a great fit for him in Toronto long term
He'd be able to focus on defense and rebounding, something that would solve a big need for the Raptors bench. He still has a long way to go offensively, and I don't know if I buy that he'll ever the a stretch big that some people think he can become, but he's still intriguing.
I’d want a centre in the mold of Jak if we’re drafting one. The value Jak provides is unmatched and he’d be a great mentor. I’m not sure that guy is Maluach because they play a different style.
I’d prefer a guy like Condon to Maluach tbh
Yallbecrazy wrote:RIP Flagg
Rapsfan07 wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:JShuttlesworth wrote:I've gone on record saying that I think Maluach has been one of the more disappointing prospects this season (mostly because I had high expectations) -- but I still think he's a pretty interesting pick if we're picking outside the Top 5 or 6, and I feel like he's the type of prospect who will impress teams in workouts.
The Raptors need another big, and playing behind Jakob in the rotation is the perfect place to develop for a guy like Maluach. I really do think it's a great fit for him in Toronto long term
He'd be able to focus on defense and rebounding, something that would solve a big need for the Raptors bench. He still has a long way to go offensively, and I don't know if I buy that he'll ever the a stretch big that some people think he can become, but he's still intriguing.
I’d want a centre in the mold of Jak if we’re drafting one. The value Jak provides is unmatched and he’d be a great mentor. I’m not sure that guy is Maluach because they play a different style.
I’d prefer a guy like Condon to Maluach tbh
My thoughts exactly.
I'm not quite seeing what it is that Maluach does better on the court than Condon, who will be available later. Aside from measurables, why should we use that pick on Maluach?
Indeed wrote:ArthurVandelay wrote:Indeed wrote:
Maluach wingspan (probably standing reach as well) isn't close to Gobert.
I don't understand why people make that comparison, maybe just hype?
His standing reach is supposed to be higher than Wemby.
Looking forward to draft measurements.
Will have to wait for the Combine, and still worry his lack of blocks, which doesn't project to be a Gobert to me.
HumbleRen wrote:Kon really impressed me today. Looked like a bulkier Austin Reaves out there.
Indeed wrote:dballislife wrote:maluach is like a quicker and bouncier gobert, and hes already a better shooter
Maluach wingspan (probably standing reach as well) isn't close to Gobert.
I don't understand why people make that comparison, maybe just hype?
BoyzNTheHood wrote:JShuttlesworth wrote:I've gone on record saying that I think Maluach has been one of the more disappointing prospects this season (mostly because I had high expectations) -- but I still think he's a pretty interesting pick if we're picking outside the Top 5 or 6, and I feel like he's the type of prospect who will impress teams in workouts.
The Raptors need another big, and playing behind Jakob in the rotation is the perfect place to develop for a guy like Maluach. I really do think it's a great fit for him in Toronto long term
He'd be able to focus on defense and rebounding, something that would solve a big need for the Raptors bench. He still has a long way to go offensively, and I don't know if I buy that he'll ever the a stretch big that some people think he can become, but he's still intriguing.
I’d want a centre in the mold of Jak if we’re drafting one. The value Jak provides is unmatched and he’d be a great mentor. I’m not sure that guy is Maluach because they play a different style.
I’d prefer a guy like Condon to Maluach tbh
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Lukeem wrote:REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
Or he could just bust if you overdraft him.
All the deeper numbers suggest he's not Jokic. Wolf legitimately is like a mediocre 7' PG whereas Jokic has the magic ability to essentially shapeshift between being an outstanding interior presence and a lead initiator at will. Wolf is quite poor doing "big man things" which is why I don't see the similarity even in player archetype.
could very easily be a bust, i am a Michigan fan and just joking being biased, over exaggerating.... But he is roughly same age as jokic when he was drafted and way ahead of where jokic was at that time
Jokic draft analysis nbadraft.net (i know not most reliable source) but he was far from polished in anyway "Needs to improve as a post player, gain strength and develop a repertoire of back to the basket moves "
wolf will get drafted in all likelihood well after wherever the raptors draft (better chance we'd take him with our portland second than our first... but my bias aside i do believe he is a very interesting high ceiling prospect offensively, and with his size and mobility being an average or plus defender seems very possible as well
without paying attention to nbadraft.net and looking at the real numbers, jokic at mega was at least attempting a ton of post ups and quite competent at them while also being employed as roller 3x as much as wolf and being more competent than him. he also was better at and had higher frequency of putbacks.
wolf at michigan mostly is employed as P&R ballhandler while his post up, putback and roll man volume is bad and his scoring efficiency in all those situations is bad too for his age
i'm almost positive wolf is going to bust if taken lotto and i've put in enough time to make that a final evaluation
