2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Kon really impressed me today. Looked like a bulkier Austin Reaves out there.

doesn't have reaves' guard skills or athleticism

i like kon i think he'd fit well on houston if they dump jalen green and just increase amen's volume and give the rest to a kon type sniper who plays clean ball

i do appreciate that kon's ORB% has substantially increased past while, was expecting that from him earlier because he was a great rebounder in HS and was pretty disappointing earlier in year

but the reality is that like 4-5 of kon's assists were lob passes to maluach who is a prolific finisher and he got sent to the stripe a ton at the end of the game so there was some legit stat padding today

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could very easily be a bust, i am a Michigan fan and just joking being biased, over exaggerating.... But he is roughly same age as jokic when he was drafted and way ahead of where jokic was at that time

Jokic draft analysis nbadraft.net (i know not most reliable source) but he was far from polished in anyway "Needs to improve as a post player, gain strength and develop a repertoire of back to the basket moves "

wolf will get drafted in all likelihood well after wherever the raptors draft (better chance we'd take him with our portland second than our first... but my bias aside i do believe he is a very interesting high ceiling prospect offensively, and with his size and mobility being an average or plus defender seems very possible as well

without paying attention to nbadraft.net and looking at the real numbers, jokic at mega was at least attempting a ton of post ups and quite competent at them while also being employed as roller 3x as much as wolf and being more competent than him. he also was better at and had higher frequency of putbacks.

wolf at michigan mostly is employed as P&R ballhandler while his post up, putback and roll man volume is bad and his scoring efficiency in all those situations is bad too for his age

i'm almost positive wolf is going to bust if taken lotto and i've put in enough time to make that a final evaluation

Ok well you continue to be "almost positive wolf is going to bust if taken in lotto" after I joked about him being a better version of the best player in the world. I am sure you're pretty close to 100% accurate on your assumptions on 21 year and younger pre drafted players year in and year out

I'll make sure to not make any comments that may offend all the time you've put in to make your final evaluations

the fact he has been crap at big man actions and efficiency at michigan isn't an assumption it's a fact

jokic had 22 dunks his last year at mega
danny wolf has 9 dunks over his entire college career as a legit 7 foot center

[Indeed]

maluach is like a quicker and bouncier gobert, and hes already a better shooter

Maluach wingspan (probably standing reach as well) isn't close to Gobert.
I don't understand why people make that comparison, maybe just hype?

According to Duke measurements, Maluach officially measured:
Size: 7'0.75" inches barefoot.
Wingspan is 7'4.5" inches.
Standing Reach: 9'8"
Weight: 250 lbs
Hand length 9.5 inches,
Hand width 10.25 inches.

Rudy Gobert:
Size: 7' 0.5''
Wingspan: 7' 8.5''
Standing Reach: 9' 7''
Weight: 237.6 lbs
Hand length: 9.75
Hand width: 10

So without jumping, both are about the same and can grab the rim from standing position. Rudy has extra 4 inches of wingspan, but Maluach is much heavier with slightly bigger hands.

I think Maluach is more comparable to Walker Kessler from a measurement profile. Kessler was a more prolific shotblocker than Maluach in college, but they measure up pretty similarly. I am still baffled as to how Maluach moves so well at his weight, but he runs like a a guy who should be 236 lbs.

I know Edey tanked his standing reach to make his vertical better. I wonder if that is the case for Gobert. Otherwise, shouldn't you have a better standing reach when you have a better wingspan? Anyway, we shall see at combine.

[Rodrickle]

Maluach wingspan (probably standing reach as well) isn't close to Gobert.
I don't understand why people make that comparison, maybe just hype?

According to Duke measurements, Maluach officially measured:
Size: 7'0.75" inches barefoot.
Wingspan is 7'4.5" inches.
Standing Reach: 9'8"
Weight: 250 lbs
Hand length 9.5 inches,
Hand width 10.25 inches.

Rudy Gobert:
Size: 7' 0.5''
Wingspan: 7' 8.5''
Standing Reach: 9' 7''
Weight: 237.6 lbs
Hand length: 9.75
Hand width: 10

So without jumping, both are about the same and can grab the rim from standing position. Rudy has extra 4 inches of wingspan, but Maluach is much heavier with slightly bigger hands.

I think Maluach is more comparable to Walker Kessler from a measurement profile. Kessler was a more prolific shotblocker than Maluach in college, but they measure up pretty similarly. I am still baffled as to how Maluach moves so well at his weight, but he runs like a a guy who should be 236 lbs.

I know Edey tanked his standing reach to make his vertical better. I wonder if that is the case for Gobert. Otherwise, shouldn't you have a better standing reach when you have a better wingspan? Anyway, we shall see at combine.

Shoulder width impacts the disparity of standing reach and wingspan.

[Dalek]

For our second pick, if he is there, I am leaning towards Maxime Raynaud. I think he has some real stretch four-five scoring instincts and is lighter on feet compared to say Fillipowski or even Branden Carlson who we targeted last year.

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Even Jack can keep his silly Bonjour call that he uses with Boucher when he hits a three.

Raynaud is a legit 7'1 and 250 lbs and just average 20/11 and 1 block and steal a game. He didn't show a lot of passing, but there is a some potential there. I just can't ignore that level of production especially playing in the ACC.

[Indeed]

According to Duke measurements, Maluach officially measured:
Size: 7'0.75" inches barefoot.
Wingspan is 7'4.5" inches.
Standing Reach: 9'8"
Weight: 250 lbs
Hand length 9.5 inches,
Hand width 10.25 inches.

Rudy Gobert:
Size: 7' 0.5''
Wingspan: 7' 8.5''
Standing Reach: 9' 7''
Weight: 237.6 lbs
Hand length: 9.75
Hand width: 10

So without jumping, both are about the same and can grab the rim from standing position. Rudy has extra 4 inches of wingspan, but Maluach is much heavier with slightly bigger hands.

I think Maluach is more comparable to Walker Kessler from a measurement profile. Kessler was a more prolific shotblocker than Maluach in college, but they measure up pretty similarly. I am still baffled as to how Maluach moves so well at his weight, but he runs like a a guy who should be 236 lbs.

I know Edey tanked his standing reach to make his vertical better. I wonder if that is the case for Gobert. Otherwise, shouldn't you have a better standing reach when you have a better wingspan? Anyway, we shall see at combine.

Shoulder width impacts the disparity of standing reach and wingspan.

4 inches is a lot.

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We sure he didn’t just Pierce himself?

[mademan]

4 inches is a lot.

Keep telling yourself that champ

[MessiahUjiri]

maluach is like a quicker and bouncier gobert, and hes already a better shooter

Maluach wingspan (probably standing reach as well) isn't close to Gobert.
I don't understand why people make that comparison, maybe just hype?

According to Duke measurements, Maluach officially measured:
Size: 7'0.75" inches barefoot.
Wingspan is 7'4.5" inches.
Standing Reach: 9'8"
Weight: 250 lbs
Hand length 9.5 inches,
Hand width 10.25 inches.

Rudy Gobert:
Size: 7' 0.5''
Wingspan: 7' 8.5''
Standing Reach: 9' 7''
Weight: 237.6 lbs
Hand length: 9.75
Hand width: 10

So without jumping, both are about the same and can grab the rim from standing position. Rudy has extra 4 inches of wingspan, but Maluach is much heavier with slightly bigger hands.

I think Maluach is more comparable to Walker Kessler from a measurement profile. Kessler was a more prolific shotblocker than Maluach in college, but they measure up pretty similarly. I am still baffled as to how Maluach moves so well at his weight, but he runs like a a guy who should be 236 lbs.

If Maluach is already 250lb as a teenager, he can exceed 280lbs easily as his body fills out.

At #7, he seems like a pretty good pick.

I can also see Kasp dropping to 7. I don’t necessarily love him for this team, but he definitely has great poise as a PG. I’ve seen some comparisons of a better Dragic, which is all star caliber.

[Dalek]

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We sure he didn’t just Pierce himself?

He mashed his ankle on that rebound. That was him at max vertical landing and rolling his ankle. His foot really was at a severe angle.

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[Thaddy]

Flagg's injury is an opening for Maluach and Knueppel to show if they are worthy of being selected higher. Maluach has been really on and off as a scorer, I hope he has a big three point shooting night and can raise his value but still drop to us.

[Thaddy]

Knueppel with a 28/5/8 showing and he went 12-13 from the line. If Flagg is out his stock is definitely going to rise. Maluach also had a very good game 14/9/0 with 4 blocks. It's still weird how Maluach doesn't get extended time, it looks like they don't want him to play too aggressively on defense and get into foul trouble. In the latter half of the top 10 these guys will be the safer picks.

[ArthurVandelay]

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We sure he didn’t just Pierce himself?

He mashed his ankle on that rebound. That was him at max vertical landing and rolling his ankle. His foot really was at a severe angle.

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It was a joke man. Should have green tinted I guess

Never miss an opportunity to take a swipe at a Celtic

[Yallbecrazy]

I've gone on record saying that I think Maluach has been one of the more disappointing prospects this season (mostly because I had high expectations) -- but I still think he's a pretty interesting pick if we're picking outside the Top 5 or 6, and I feel like he's the type of prospect who will impress teams in workouts.

The Raptors need another big, and playing behind Jakob in the rotation is the perfect place to develop for a guy like Maluach. I really do think it's a great fit for him in Toronto long term

He'd be able to focus on defense and rebounding, something that would solve a big need for the Raptors bench. He still has a long way to go offensively, and I don't know if I buy that he'll ever the a stretch big that some people think he can become, but he's still intriguing.

I’d want a centre in the mold of Jak if we’re drafting one. The value Jak provides is unmatched and he’d be a great mentor. I’m not sure that guy is Maluach because they play a different style.

I’d prefer a guy like Condon to Maluach tbh

I think Sorber to me profiles most similarly to Jak. He has the post game, passing, and high level drop defense with some sneaky movement ability. He is also a strong physical presence.

I'd love to get Condon with our second pick, but as a high lottery pick it seems way too high for him. Is he that much better than a guy like Maxime Raynaud?

Maluach to me would be a nice fit with Chomche. I don't know if either change the franchise, but they have size and fit our profile. I scouted both way more last year in BAL when they were sort of hidden from sight, but in higher competition, I think they are both years away from being pros.

I haven't watched any of Raynaud, but a senior who has had a negative assist to turnover ratio his entire career, with the best being about 0.8 with a career high BPM of 7.4 and no stats that really stand out probably isn't worthy of a draft pick at all.

Condon on the other hand is a 2 sport athlete that only recently picked up the sport 5 years ago. He's a natural athlete that has an assist to turnover ratio above 2 which I haven't really seen before in a major conference from an underclassmen big (point forwards don't count). His BBIQ projects as outlier good, he's very aggressive and is leading one of the best teams in the country against the strongest conference in the history of college basketball.

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I’d want a centre in the mold of Jak if we’re drafting one. The value Jak provides is unmatched and he’d be a great mentor. I’m not sure that guy is Maluach because they play a different style.

I’d prefer a guy like Condon to Maluach tbh

I think Sorber to me profiles most similarly to Jak. He has the post game, passing, and high level drop defense with some sneaky movement ability. He is also a strong physical presence.

I'd love to get Condon with our second pick, but as a high lottery pick it seems way too high for him. Is he that much better than a guy like Maxime Raynaud?

Maluach to me would be a nice fit with Chomche. I don't know if either change the franchise, but they have size and fit our profile. I scouted both way more last year in BAL when they were sort of hidden from sight, but in higher competition, I think they are both years away from being pros.

I haven't watched any of Raynaud, but a senior who has had a negative assist to turnover ratio his entire career, with the best being about 0.8 with a career high BPM of 7.4 and no stats that really stand out probably isn't worthy of a draft pick at all.

Condon on the other hand is a 2 sport athlete that only recently picked up the sport 5 years ago. He's a natural athlete that has an assist to turnover ratio above 2 which I haven't really seen before in a major conference from an underclassmen big (point forwards don't count). His BBIQ projects as outlier good, he's very aggressive and is leading one of the best teams in the country against the strongest conference in the history of college basketball.

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Condon does everything well and is a quick decision-maker at the top. Looking closer at the Alabama game, he fakes the back door from the screen because the guard didn't cut, then glances back to the top like for the DHO, then the guard cuts and he delivers the back door pass. Beyond his what 3 alley oops (one 1-handed), he caught 2 others with some contact and finished.

He hit a 3 after catching it at the top and looking at 2 passing options then nailed the shot, that's even hard for a guard to focus and do it without a reset dribble. Guarding the pick and roll, back-pedalling he plays in between player until his teammate can recover and they foil the possession. Would like to re-mention to watch him boxing out on the offensive end; it's insane to me. He's pretty much everything we want Poeltl to be.

If he was 7'1-7'2, he'd be the #2 pick in the draft. If the measurements are true that he's 6'11 without shoes, that's a legit "7 footer". Playing in the AFL he has to be quick, but if playing in the NBA he would naturally add some muscle but not too much bulk.

[Dalek]

I haven't watched any of Raynaud, but a senior who has had a negative assist to turnover ratio his entire career, with the best being about 0.8 with a career high BPM of 7.4 and no stats that really stand out probably isn't worthy of a draft pick at all.

Condon on the other hand is a 2 sport athlete that only recently picked up the sport 5 years ago. He's a natural athlete that has an assist to turnover ratio above 2 which I haven't really seen before in a major conference from an underclassmen big (point forwards don't count). His BBIQ projects as outlier good, he's very aggressive and is leading one of the best teams in the country against the strongest conference in the history of college basketball.

I'd love Alex Condon, but doubt he will be available at the second round pick. I don't think Alex Condon is worth a top ten pick and we never trade for a FRP. He is on the skinny side for me and and I don't see a plus wingspan and he shoots 62% from the line, so I struggle with picking him as high as where we will pick.

Raynaud is productive and likely available in the second round. He maybe a year older, is still a 7 BPM and shoots double the amount of threes, and shoots freethrows 15% better than Condon. He also averaged 20 and 11 which has to be somewhat noteworthy.

If you love the passing, Raynaud shows some high level skill and is notable for short roll passing, and the caveat to the high turnovers is Raynaud is playing on Stanford and is the primary option facing doubles and team's best defenders. In the NBA with spacing he should be a decent stretch C. He is a good draft budget floor spacer.

[PhilBlackson]

We'll be LUCKY if Maluach falls to us and I'll be damn near over the moon just to get him nvm cracking the top 4 at this rate lol

But without luck, I'm expecting us to end up with one of Queen, Demin or Fleming.

I really don't think our FO will take another guard ie/ Fears or Kasp, even if a lot of people here might think one (or both) are better prospects. I just think they have a ton of faith in IQ and Shead, not to mention those point guard prospects are heavy ON BALL players which isn't a great fit with BI and Scottie.

I'm torn between which of Queen, Demin and Fleming will it be because I can see the logic behind each. Queen would be a hopeful long term replacement for Yak (if he measures out ok) but the bball IQ is such an obvious fit. He would make for a deadly PnR partner with pretty much anyone on the roster and with his own great passing ability/court vision and ability to collapse a defence with his post work, he would get guys like IQ, Gradey, JaKobe, Ochai, BI etc great looks on the perimeter that I think will be very hard for the FO to pass on as it would add yet another dimension to their offence and he's actually underrated defensively. With Demin, it's really an upside play which we know the FO loves to work on. If they ironed out some of Egor's game he could end up being one of the biggest steals in the draft and you would have your Vision 6'9 wings everywhere which leads to the last name....

Fleming to me is such a dark horse for our pick. I'm not sure that I personally would feel comfortable taking him that high in the draft but the kid is damn near the prototype of what our FO loves and almost fit the starting lineup to the tee AND possibly provide a small ball C option. Fleming's game is something like that of OG or Eason but he's actually BIGGER/longer than both. I think they'll have a hard time passing on a player like that, that's actually 6'9 (not 6'7 like those 2) and has a ridiculous 7'5 wingspan (not 7'3) - he has RWIII like measurements with Eason like game. He's damn near physically like a Serge/OG hybrid. Don't tell me the FO wouldn't kill to have a player of that mold right now next to Scottie & BI. There's just something I can't shake in my gut that Masai might take him if Maluach is gone.

[Thaddy]

We'll be LUCKY if Maluach falls to us and I'll be damn near over the moon just to get him nvm cracking the top 4 at this rate lol

But without luck, I'm expecting us to end up with one of Queen, Demin or Fleming.

I really don't think our FO will take another guard ie/ Fears or Kasp, even if a lot of people here might think one (or both) are better prospects. I just think they have a ton of faith in IQ and Shead, not to mention that guard prospects are heavy ON BALL players which isn't a great fit with BI and Scottie.

I'm torn between which of Queen, Demin and Fleming, I think they'll go because I can see the logic behind each. Queen would be a hopeful long term replacement for Yak (if he measures out ok) but the bball IQ is such an obvious fit. He would make for a deadly PnR partner with pretty much anyone on the roster and with his own great passing ability/court vision and ability to collapse a defence with his post work, he would get guys like IQ, Gradey, JaKobe, Ochai, BI etc great looks on the perimeter that I think will be very hard for the FO to pass on as it would add yet another dimension to their offence and he's actually underrated defensively. With Demin, it's really an upside play which we know the FO loves to work on. If they ironed out some of Egor's game he could end up being one of the biggest steals in the draft and you would have your Vision 6'9 wings everywhere which leads to the last name....

Fleming to me is such a dark horse for our pick. I'm not sure that I personally would feel comfortable taking him that high in the draft but the kid is damn near the prototype of what our FO loves and almost fit the starting lineup to the tee AND possibly provide a small ball C option. Fleming's game is something like that of OG or Eason but he's actually BIGGER/longer than both. I think they'll have a hard time passing on a player like that, that's actually 6'9 (not 6'7 like those 2) and has a ridiculous 7'5 wingspan (not 7'3). He's damn near physically like a Serge/OG hybrid. Don't tell me the FO wouldn't kill to have a player of that mold right now next to Scottie & BI. There's just something I can't shake in my gut that Masai might take him if Maluach is gone.

Maluach and Knueppel are going to be steals. Maluach has a bad block rate becaues he's playing conservatively.

[PhilBlackson]

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We'll be LUCKY if Maluach falls to us and I'll be damn near over the moon just to get him nvm cracking the top 4 at this rate lol

But without luck, I'm expecting us to end up with one of Queen, Demin or Fleming.

I really don't think our FO will take another guard ie/ Fears or Kasp, even if a lot of people here might think one (or both) are better prospects. I just think they have a ton of faith in IQ and Shead, not to mention that guard prospects are heavy ON BALL players which isn't a great fit with BI and Scottie.

I'm torn between which of Queen, Demin and Fleming, I think they'll go because I can see the logic behind each. Queen would be a hopeful long term replacement for Yak (if he measures out ok) but the bball IQ is such an obvious fit. He would make for a deadly PnR partner with pretty much anyone on the roster and with his own great passing ability/court vision and ability to collapse a defence with his post work, he would get guys like IQ, Gradey, JaKobe, Ochai, BI etc great looks on the perimeter that I think will be very hard for the FO to pass on as it would add yet another dimension to their offence and he's actually underrated defensively. With Demin, it's really an upside play which we know the FO loves to work on. If they ironed out some of Egor's game he could end up being one of the biggest steals in the draft and you would have your Vision 6'9 wings everywhere which leads to the last name....

Fleming to me is such a dark horse for our pick. I'm not sure that I personally would feel comfortable taking him that high in the draft but the kid is damn near the prototype of what our FO loves and almost fit the starting lineup to the tee AND possibly provide a small ball C option. Fleming's game is something like that of OG or Eason but he's actually BIGGER/longer than both. I think they'll have a hard time passing on a player like that, that's actually 6'9 (not 6'7 like those 2) and has a ridiculous 7'5 wingspan (not 7'3). He's damn near physically like a Serge/OG hybrid. Don't tell me the FO wouldn't kill to have a player of that mold right now next to Scottie & BI. There's just something I can't shake in my gut that Masai might take him if Maluach is gone.

Maluach and Knueppel are going to be steals. Maluach has a bad block rate becaues he's playing conservatively.

Personally I don't buy Knueppel being much more than a high level role player and would pass on him but I do believe Maluach has the raw tools that this franchise could develop into something more.