Philly fans not taking the PG signing too well. UPDATE: Amico claims that Philly will try to move PG this summer.

[Raps in 4]

Daryl Morey is the real sucker here giving PG such a huge contract so late in his career. sure, nobody could have predicted the steep drop off after just one season

I predicted it. As did a bunch of other posters.

The dude was turning 34 and has had one of the most injury-plagued careers you'll ever see. Handing him anything more than a 2-year contract was always going to be a mistake.

Chilluminati had it right. Sixers never cared if PG was overpaid in year 3 or 4, the move was predicated on making a real run in the next couple years with a two-way player who fit really well next to Embiid and Maxey. The move looks like a disaster now because the worst case scenario happened right away, and anyone saying they 'knew' that was going to happen right after the season PG had last year is making ish up or was just throwing out some random guess. He played in 90% of RS games last year and was very good on both ends.

Everyone knew it was a risky signing. But don't need to come out of the woodwork every time a risky move turns out good or bad to take 'credit' for pointing out that the move was risky.

PG is one of the most injury-prone players of his generation. Of course him being sidelined with injuries again this season was predictable. Him having one healthy season at age 33 didn't mean he suddenly stopped being injury-prone. Anyone who expected him to be healthy two years in a row, at this age, was delusional. Doubly so if they expected Embiid to be healthy too.

[HotelVitale]

The hard-on for Harden and incapability of actually running a competent team otherwise has left Morey more exposed than the Emperor with his new clothes.

Bingo. Morey’s reputation as this genius GM was really only due to his getting deal of getting Harden to Houston. He’s been riding that for a decade, tried to rerun it which was an unmitigated disaster.

Outside of getting Harden in Houston, every other “star” deal he made for both Houston and Philly has produced nothing of significance…

Dwight Howard?
Chris Paul?
Russell Westbrook?
Carmelo Anthony?

All still very big names when Morey was able to bring them in to Houston, but they did less than nothing… CP might have been the best pairing but the rest of the roster for Houston was just not there, and now we’re seeing the same thing in Philly.

He got Harden the same way Pelinka got Luka. Cheap owners decided to dump their superstar for a bag of chips.

Get off troll island, bud. I don't even like Morey much and think he has big flaws (the biggest of which Duster's honing in on) but you've totally jumped the shark if you're arguing the Harden trade wasn't a savvy move. First he hoarded up good assets despite having an already decent/competitive team, then had them ready for when a team wanted a good return for a potential game-changer they couldn't keep. Harden averaged literally less than half of what Luka did the year before he was traded (17/4/4 vs 34/9/10) and was definitely not at that level, plus any team could've beaten HOU's offer. No secret negotiation or anything. Also the 'bag of chips' was 3 1sts--including one that was seen as a likely top-5 pick the next season--and a near all-star who played the same position and role as Harden did for OKC.

Just call things like they are. Morey is good at asset valuing and at pulling off big trades, the track record is clear there. He's also really bad at some other things, there's enough non troll stuff you can condemn him for.

[Johnny Bball]

Darryl Morey should be fired before they make this trade. Its what Morey will continue to do, and has done repeatedly. Shuffle the deck chairs and lose each trade while doing it. The Sixers are finished and it was the PG that finished them.

[Ambrose]

Worst contract in the league and I'm not sure there's much debate anymore. Good luck Philly.

There's another guy on the same team with a longer, more expensive contract, who plays even less, and is aging even worse.

[HotelVitale]

I predicted it. As did a bunch of other posters.

The dude was turning 34 and has had one of the most injury-plagued careers you'll ever see. Handing him anything more than a 2-year contract was always going to be a mistake.

Chilluminati had it right. Sixers never cared if PG was overpaid in year 3 or 4, the move was predicated on making a real run in the next couple years with a two-way player who fit really well next to Embiid and Maxey. The move looks like a disaster now because the worst case scenario happened right away, and anyone saying they 'knew' that was going to happen right after the season PG had last year is making ish up or was just throwing out some random guess. He played in 90% of RS games last year and was very good on both ends.

Everyone knew it was a risky signing. But don't need to come out of the woodwork every time a risky move turns out good or bad to take 'credit' for pointing out that the move was risky.

PG is one of the most injury-prone players of his generation. Of course him being sidelined with injuries again this season was predictable. Him having one healthy season at age 33 didn't mean he suddenly stopped being injury-prone. Anyone who expected him to be healthy two years in a row, at this age, was delusional. Doubly so if they expected Embiid to be healthy too.

If PG was as injured and as good as he was in basically any of the last 6 seasons, the Sixers would've been fine with that (maybe not 2021 but even then he was healthy at end of year). The more important factor here is that he's playing far worse than he has in years. I'd love to see your posts betting something significant that he would both get injured and suddenly sort of suck as soon as he signed the deal, and that Embiid was also going to be unable to play all year. Again we all knew it was possible, but it's tedious BS to start talking like you absolutely knew the worst case would happen right away.

Also before last season's injury Embiid played in something like 75% of RS games and an even higher % of PO games in the previous like 6 seasons. Him not being able to play like himself at all this season was definitely not the obvious outcome.

Again I don't like Morey much I don't like PG or Embiid almost at all, but it's still really boring to see threads fill up with these takes. We're all older sports fans who know enough about theses games to read odds and possibilities and appreciate luck etc.

EDIT: don't mean to be ranting at you. Just my pet peeve when people fight over themselves to pile on when risky things don't work out, always feels like loser talk to me. It's good to take risks that could pay off big, feels small to me to need to identify strongly with the 'told you this could've gone bad!' side.

[boomershadow]

Guys his age that aren't Lebron are almost never max-level players on the court. I don't think he should be out of thr league, but that contract was absolutely ridiculous

[Dez]

Bulls trade Vuc/Huerter/PWill/#11 pick for PG13/#6 pick

Philly saves serious long term money and gets important depth. Vuc is an awesome back up C/can play big minutes when Embiid sits
Huerter looks cured and is playing solid ball for Chi/PWill somehow has talent but might need a fresh start

Bulls roll the dice on PG13 and move up in the draft
White/Ayo/Carter
Giddy/Ball
PG13/Phillips
Matas
Collins/Smith
Plus the #6 pick (BPA, hopefully a forward)

Looking at it, that's a stupid idea

No the Bulls don't, no sane team is including 1st round picks for Paul George on a max contract even if they send their pick with him.

[John Murdoch]

Toronto bound

[MrBigShot]

The idea of an Embiid/Maxey/PG led squad sounded appealing. PG had a pretty solid season last year. Unfortunately he has declined and looks cooked.

[JustBuzzin]

If they really trying to trade PG I always say Charlotte makes sense.

Of course that comes with trading their lottery pick. He can mentor Brandon Miller and play on a team with lesser expectations.

[Roscoe Sheed]

The idea of an Embiid/Maxey/PG led squad sounded appealing. PG had a pretty solid season last year. Unfortunately he has declined and looks cooked.

His seasons started off on the wrong foot with that knee injury- he never really got back up to speed. At his age, he might never return to his previous status, but I think we have to reserve judgment until next season, but he has been injury prone for a while

[djsunyc]

do you think there's any reality where philly packages their first if its not flagg to move him?

[djsunyc]

Toronto bound

we have ingram. no need for him.

[ITYSL]

PG is a bit of a scapegoat here. He never had a chance to be truly integrated into the full team with Embiid in and out so much. Don't get me wrong - he has been a disappointment. But he was not brought to Philly to be a #1 option, or even a #2 option. If Embiid was healthy and Maxey had continued to improve, having PG has a 3rd man would have made Philly a legitimate threat. But the Embiid situation has been a mess from the start, and Maxey has plateaued a bit and shown that he's not quite ready to be a #1 option himself.

Then beyond those three, there's not much depth. Caleb Martin was a bit of a disappointment. Lowry and Gordon are old. You know it's been a rough season when one of the team highlights for the season has been the performance of......Guerschon Yabusele.

[Tor_Raps]

Read on Twitter

Wow. Poor Philly fans.

Yes please.

"PAUL GEORGE OVER ME!!!"

[JustBuzzin]

do you think there's any reality where philly packages their first if its not flagg to move him?

Honestly it's the only way they can move him. Their best outcome is they get the #2 pick and they can entice the lottery teams who want Dylan Harper to take on the PG contract while also getting that #2 pick.

Charlotte in particular is set up perfectly for that kind of trade Bridges is already arguably better than current PG. They throw in Nurkic's expiring contract and say Charlotte gets the #6 pick.

Bridges/Nurkic/#6 for #2/PG

Charlotte gets Harper and continues to build around Melo/Harper/Miller core with PG mentoring them.

[M2J]

PG is a bit of a scapegoat here. He never had a chance to be truly integrated into the full team with Embiid in and out so much. Don't get me wrong - he has been a disappointment. But he was not brought to Philly to be a #1 option, or even a #2 option. If Embiid was healthy and Maxey had continued to improve, having PG has a 3rd man would have made Philly a legitimate threat. But the Embiid situation has been a mess from the start, and Maxey has plateaued a bit and shown that he's not quite ready to be a #1 option himself.

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I agree. I think PG played excellent defense, he's struggled with what most stars struggle with, going from all star player 1 year to being asked to be a 3 and D role player. I feel the biggest issue with his three ball was that he didn't have Joelle and Maxi two-man game truly working to get him the open looks he came here for.

I actually don't care if they trade him or not, they better not send any assets with him

[NZB2323]

They should fire Morey this summer. His compete focus on only getting stars has absolutely derailed the team and handicapped them from building a real complete roster.

The hard-on for Harden and incapability of actually running a competent team otherwise has left Morey more exposed than the Emperor with his new clothes.

Bingo. Morey’s reputation as this genius GM was really only due to his getting deal of getting Harden to Houston. He’s been riding that for a decade, tried to rerun it which was an unmitigated disaster.

Outside of getting Harden in Houston, every other “star” deal he made for both Houston and Philly has produced nothing of significance…

Dwight Howard?
Chris Paul?
Russell Westbrook?
Carmelo Anthony?

All still very big names when Morey was able to bring them in to Houston, but they did less than nothing… CP might have been the best pairing but the rest of the roster for Houston was just not there, and now we’re seeing the same thing in Philly.

They made the WCF with Dwight Howard and almost beat the KD Warriors with CP3.

The only times the Rockets have won a playoff series in the 21st century is when they’ve had Morey as GM, and they won 8 of them.

[Bobbymcgee]

Paul George and Clippers 2029 1st round pick (Sixers have swap rights) to Phoenix Suns for Kevin Durant.

[chilluminati]

Nobody should trade for him at his price point. That is not 3rd option money he's making, and I'm pretty sure he isn't gonna give you 2nd option quality anymore.

Whoever trades for PG this summer is even worse than Morey.