Kobe-Shaq Lakers Plus-Minus Numbers From 2001 to 2004

[Special_Puppy]

We are measuring over 1 entire playoff run. Are you implying that the stats you shared should not be applied to this interval?

I’ve always said that you really need 200+ games to get a really solid plus-minus sample and have generally argued against playoff on/off for this reason

[carlquincy]

We are measuring over 1 entire playoff run. Are you implying that the stats you shared should not be applied to this interval?

I’ve always said that you really need 200+ games to get a really solid plus-minus sample and have generally argued against playoff on/off for this reason

We are measuring over 1 entire playoff run. Are you implying that the stats you shared should not be applied to this interval?

No, just that a small sample size has a larger likelihood of error than a larger one. If Kobe is that impressive over his decade+ of playoff runs, then we can say with greater certainty that he was one of the great playoff risers in NBA history like we do with Hakeem. But generally 12 games is less convincing than 80 games which is less convincing than 400 games unless there are clear outside modifiers (like injuries) that would affect the numbers.

Simple "larger sample sizes = more accurate data" brings nothing to the table.

Of the stats OP shared, only 1 is relevant. The rest are totally unreliable.

Were 3-peat Lakers Shaq's team? Of course they were, we do not need unreliable stats from OP to figure that out.

[Special_Puppy]

We are measuring over 1 entire playoff run. Are you implying that the stats you shared should not be applied to this interval?

I’ve always said that you really need 200+ games to get a really solid plus-minus sample and have generally argued against playoff on/off for this reason

We are measuring over 1 entire playoff run. Are you implying that the stats you shared should not be applied to this interval?

No, just that a small sample size has a larger likelihood of error than a larger one. If Kobe is that impressive over his decade+ of playoff runs, then we can say with greater certainty that he was one of the great playoff risers in NBA history like we do with Hakeem. But generally 12 games is less convincing than 80 games which is less convincing than 400 games unless there are clear outside modifiers (like injuries) that would affect the numbers.

Simple "larger sample sizes = more accurate data" brings nothing to the table.

Of the stats OP shared, only 1 is relevant. The rest are totally unreliable.

Were 3-peat Lakers Shaq's team? Of course they were, we do not need unreliable stats from OP to figure that out.

For literally anything a larger sample size is going to make it easier to find meaningful results. If you want to find out how good a hitter Ohtani is, you use would use 300 games over 3 games. If you want to conduct a poll of an election, you poll 300 people instead of 3.

[One_and_Done]

From the same source.

https://www.pbpstats.com/wowy-combos/nba?TeamId=1610612747&Season=2000-01&SeasonType=Playoffs&PlayerIds=977,406&OnlyCommonGames=true

Kobe is the undisputed leader of the '01 playoffs run then.

Dude unironically citing 73 minute samples

Many of these minutes probably came when guarded by the horrible Spurs backourt, probably the worst backcourt I have ever seen that deep in the playoffs.