Lakers Utah Trade Lakers All In Kessler. Yes the final piece

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Re: Lakers Utah Trade Lakers All In Kessler. Yes the final piece 

Post#41 » by R-DAWG » Fri Mar 14, 2025 10:59 am

babyjax13 wrote:
RookieJazz wrote:Any trade offer of Kessler to LAL should start with Austin Reaves + 2031 or 2032 FRP.

Reaves is definitely individually more valuable than Kessler.


The problem for Utah is Reaves doesn’t fit their timeline. Reaves turns 27 in may and only has 1 year left on his below market contract. By the team utah is ready to compete Reaves is going to be 29 and looking for his payday.

Maybe there is some kind of 3 way trade out there where the Lakers get a rotation piece and multiple picks for Reaves and then flip the picks for Kessler. The Reaves return should be closer to the price New Orleans paid for Murray (2 picks, 1 quality younger player) than the historic overpay the Knicks paid for Bridges.

Similar to Goran Dragic in 2015, Reaves contract gives a team with a tight payroll the ability to add an above average starting level player.

Problem is I don’t see a team that’s an obvious Reaves candidate - pick/young player heavy and lacking shot creation.

I could see Orlando being a fit. Not sure Reaves fits in Phildaphia with Maxey or Detroit with Cade. Same thing with San Antonio with Fox or Sacramento with LaVine.

Houston seems to make sense if they miss on Durant (or Booker).
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Re: Lakers Utah Trade Lakers All In Kessler. Yes the final piece 

Post#42 » by Astaluego » Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:38 am

R-DAWG wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:
RookieJazz wrote:Any trade offer of Kessler to LAL should start with Austin Reaves + 2031 or 2032 FRP.

Reaves is definitely individually more valuable than Kessler.


The problem for Utah is Reaves doesn’t fit their timeline. Reaves turns 27 in may and only has 1 year left on his below market contract. By the team utah is ready to compete Reaves is going to be 29 and looking for his payday.

Maybe there is some kind of 3 way trade out there where the Lakers get a rotation piece and multiple picks for Reaves and then flip the picks for Kessler. The Reaves return should be closer to the price New Orleans paid for Murray (2 picks, 1 quality younger player) than the historic overpay the Knicks paid for Bridges.

Similar to Goran Dragic in 2015, Reaves contract gives a team with a tight payroll the ability to add an above average starting level player.

Problem is I don’t see a team that’s an obvious Reaves candidate - pick/young player heavy and lacking shot creation.

I could see Orlando being a fit. Not sure Reaves fits in Phildaphia with Maxey or Detroit with Cade. Same thing with San Antonio with Fox or Sacramento with LaVine.

Houston seems to make sense if they miss on Durant (or Booker).

Would this be fair? Assuming the 76ers keep their pick.

Knecht+Lakers 27+ FRP Wolves to 76ers

Kessler to Lakers

Drummond/#6/Lakers 31/FRP Swap 30 and 32(by Lakers) to JAZZ
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Re: Lakers Utah Trade Lakers All In Kessler. Yes the final piece 

Post#43 » by R-DAWG » Sat Mar 15, 2025 11:51 am

Astaluego wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:Reaves is definitely individually more valuable than Kessler.


The problem for Utah is Reaves doesn’t fit their timeline. Reaves turns 27 in may and only has 1 year left on his below market contract. By the team utah is ready to compete Reaves is going to be 29 and looking for his payday.

Maybe there is some kind of 3 way trade out there where the Lakers get a rotation piece and multiple picks for Reaves and then flip the picks for Kessler. The Reaves return should be closer to the price New Orleans paid for Murray (2 picks, 1 quality younger player) than the historic overpay the Knicks paid for Bridges.

Similar to Goran Dragic in 2015, Reaves contract gives a team with a tight payroll the ability to add an above average starting level player.

Problem is I don’t see a team that’s an obvious Reaves candidate - pick/young player heavy and lacking shot creation.

I could see Orlando being a fit. Not sure Reaves fits in Phildaphia with Maxey or Detroit with Cade. Same thing with San Antonio with Fox or Sacramento with LaVine.

Houston seems to make sense if they miss on Durant (or Booker).

Would this be fair? Assuming the 76ers keep their pick.

Knecht+Lakers 27+ FRP Wolves to 76ers

Kessler to Lakers

Drummond/#6/Lakers 31/FRP Swap 30 and 32(by Lakers) to JAZZ


Feels like the Lakers 31st should be going to Philly here. Also depends on where the Wolves 1st falls.

But even if MIN’s pick is in the 15 range, feels like the cost to move up in a strong draft should be more than Kenecht and a future unprotected 1st.

The Lakers have shown that they would move Kenecht + unprotected 31 + swap for Kessler
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Re: Lakers Utah Trade Lakers All In Kessler. Yes the final piece 

Post#44 » by meekrab » Sat Mar 15, 2025 12:03 pm

zimpy27 wrote:Kessler currently anchoring the worst defense in the entire league.

I think he's being way overvalued.

I don't think there's a single center in the league who could make a lineup with George Sexton Collins and Markannen good on defense. :lol:

But yes the T&T board has been valuing Kessler way too high for years.
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Re: Lakers Utah Trade Lakers All In Kessler. Yes the final piece 

Post#45 » by Karmaloop » Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:35 am

R-DAWG wrote:The problem for Utah is Reaves doesn’t fit their timeline. Reaves turns 27 in may and only has 1 year left on his below market contract. By the team utah is ready to compete Reaves is going to be 29 and looking for his payday.

Maybe there is some kind of 3 way trade out there where the Lakers get a rotation piece and multiple picks for Reaves and then flip the picks for Kessler. The Reaves return should be closer to the price New Orleans paid for Murray (2 picks, 1 quality younger player) than the historic overpay the Knicks paid for Bridges.

Similar to Goran Dragic in 2015, Reaves contract gives a team with a tight payroll the ability to add an above average starting level player.

Problem is I don’t see a team that’s an obvious Reaves candidate - pick/young player heavy and lacking shot creation.

I could see Orlando being a fit. Not sure Reaves fits in Phildaphia with Maxey or Detroit with Cade. Same thing with San Antonio with Fox or Sacramento with LaVine.

Houston seems to make sense if they miss on Durant (or Booker).


Then work it into a 3-team deal. You don't get too arbitrarily demand for more value simply because the player "doesn't fit the timeline".
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Re: Lakers Utah Trade Lakers All In Kessler. Yes the final piece 

Post#46 » by Daddy 801 » Mon Mar 17, 2025 6:54 am

Not really inclined to trade with the Lakers and make the pic we already owe less valuable. And getting a couple late FRP’s isn’t enough for me to send out Kessler.

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