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Official Trade Thread Part XLVII

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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#201 » by pcbothwel » Fri Mar 7, 2025 5:39 pm

WallToWall wrote:The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that we will have to trade Poole in this off-season. Trading him could generate a lot of draft picks and/or good prospects. Coveted 2025 and 2026 picks especially. It would enable us to build a team in the projected time frame where tis group is to trend upwards.I would not be surprised if we only have 2 players older than 25yo on next years team.


Im still eyeing Orlando. They need a playmaking, elite shooting lead guard to play along with Suggs & Black... And another elite shooting wing.
Poole (32M) + Kispert (14M) + Jones (2M) = 48M
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KCP (22M) + Isaac (15M) + Anthony (13M) = 50M

They add in the 2025 & 2026 Denver picks, and we send them a 2nd or two.
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Post#202 » by gambitx777 » Sat Mar 8, 2025 9:13 am

I am very concerned that dallases fiasco is going to get them the Cleveland sympathy's first over all treatment...

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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#203 » by J-Ves » Tue Mar 11, 2025 12:23 pm

WallToWall wrote:The more I think about it, the more I am convinced that we will have to trade Poole in this off-season. Trading him could generate a lot of draft picks and/or good prospects. Coveted 2025 and 2026 picks especially. It would enable us to build a team in the projected time frame where tis group is to trend upwards.I would not be surprised if we only have 2 players older than 25yo on next years team.

I think we should trade him too but I think you might be overestimating his value. He’s still owed a lot of money and has the same flaws he’s always had had. If we could get a 25 or 26 pick that projects to be in the 14-19 range and maybe a future 2nd or two I’d pull the trigger. I also wouldn’t mind taking back undesirable salary to get things done
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Post#204 » by The Consiglieri » Tue Mar 11, 2025 5:12 pm

Definitely always gotten the sense from insiders that Poole's contract is so crazy that he's basically viewed as "a favor" trade where you'd have to send picks out, rather than be getting anything back for him up until it's an expiring during the '26-'27 season two winters from now.

I do feel its a positive sign that none of the 3 ringer dudes doing the "worst contract" draft last week included Poole's, if I remember right. I can't remember it being mentioned anyway, which is a good sign that the contract is being viewed less as a disaster following this solid season in year 2 of the 4 year deal, but yeah, I don't think he's movable until at least winter '26, and more likely winter '27.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#205 » by gambitx777 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:52 am

The Consiglieri wrote:Definitely always gotten the sense from insiders that Poole's contract is so crazy that he's basically viewed as "a favor" trade where you'd have to send picks out, rather than be getting anything back for him up until it's an expiring during the '26-'27 season two winters from now.

I do feel its a positive sign that none of the 3 ringer dudes doing the "worst contract" draft last week included Poole's, if I remember right. I can't remember it being mentioned anyway, which is a good sign that the contract is being viewed less as a disaster following this solid season in year 2 of the 4 year deal, but yeah, I don't think he's movable until at least winter '26, and more likely winter '27.
I was listening to the ringer guys during the trade dead line and they were all super high on Poole and thought he was a positive trade asset.

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Post#206 » by The Consiglieri » Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:22 pm

Would be lovely to send him out, I'm just skeptical it can happen, at least until the winter deadline next year (I imagine if he has a good opening 3 months to the '25-'26 season, people would buy this trend line more too).
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Post#207 » by nate33 » Sat Mar 15, 2025 2:00 pm

What's the best 2025 draft pick we could get by trading Sarr?
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Post#208 » by payitforward » Sat Mar 15, 2025 2:48 pm

Clever question, nate!
I find it hard to answer. What's your best guess?

Not going to happen, obviously -- but interesting all the same!

edit: rinse & repeat for Risacher!
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Post#209 » by J-Ves » Sat Mar 15, 2025 3:31 pm

nate33 wrote:What's the best 2025 draft pick we could get by trading Sarr?

15th-20th
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Post#210 » by Wizardspride » Sat Mar 15, 2025 3:45 pm

nate33 wrote:What's the best 2025 draft pick we could get by trading Sarr?

Is this something you're advocating or just posing the question?

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Post#211 » by Jay81 » Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:39 am

J-Ves wrote:
nate33 wrote:What's the best 2025 draft pick we could get by trading Sarr?

15th-20th

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Post#212 » by Jay81 » Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:39 am

nate33 wrote:What's the best 2025 draft pick we could get by trading Sarr?

Sarr is top 5 this draft. ahead of ace and maybe VJ
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Post#213 » by nate33 » Sun Mar 16, 2025 2:38 pm

Wizardspride wrote:
nate33 wrote:What's the best 2025 draft pick we could get by trading Sarr?

Is this something you're advocating or just posing the question?

I'd advocate for it if it got us a pick in the 3-8 range.
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Post#214 » by payitforward » Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:09 pm

nate33 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:
nate33 wrote:What's the best 2025 draft pick we could get by trading Sarr?

Is this something you're advocating or just posing the question?

I'd advocate for it if it got us a pick in the 3-8 range.

Uuuuunhhh, yeah!
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Post#215 » by DCZards » Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:13 pm

nate33 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:
nate33 wrote:What's the best 2025 draft pick we could get by trading Sarr?

Is this something you're advocating or just posing the question?

I'd advocate for it if it got us a pick in the 3-8 range.

No way is the second pick in the weakest draft in a generation gonna get you a top ten pick in the best draft in the history of the NBA. :D

One poster here recently suggested that none of the Zards rooks would be first round picks in this year’s draft.
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Post#216 » by prime1time » Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:16 pm

nate33 wrote:What's the best 2025 draft pick we could get by trading Sarr?

The questions surrounding Sarr have already been answered. Before the draft we are looking at Sarr and navigating a range of possibilities. Now we have seen him have success. The first two months of the season Sarr shot 24.6% from 3, 37.6% from the field and put up 10.6 ppg. In March Sarr is shooting 37% from 3 on 5.4 3's a game, 38.7% from the field and 15.9 ppg. For a player that is very raw and needs to develop it would take a lot to get Sarr. Because Sarr has shown improvement and progress the chances of trading Sarr zero. I would take #1 straight up or the second pick plus. So either Flagg straight up or Harper and another first. A team would be better off just drafting either player and developing them.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#217 » by prime1time » Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:22 pm

nate33 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:
nate33 wrote:What's the best 2025 draft pick we could get by trading Sarr?

Is this something you're advocating or just posing the question?

I'd advocate for it if it got us a pick in the 3-8 range.

LOL. Yeah lets trade a guy who just ran circles around Jokic and played his best game for the 8th pick in the draft straight up.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#218 » by prime1time » Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:39 pm

prime1time wrote:
nate33 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:Is this something you're advocating or just posing the question?

I'd advocate for it if it got us a pick in the 3-8 range.

LOL. Yeah lets trade a guy who just ran circles around Jokic and played his best game for the 8th pick in the draft straight up.

Please explain why every player 3-8 projects not just as a better player than Sarr but worth trading the certain value for Sarr for an uncertainty of a player who's never played in the NBA. So many takes on this board get forgotten so let's list this one out so we can refer to it going forward.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#219 » by nate33 » Sun Mar 16, 2025 3:50 pm

prime1time wrote:
nate33 wrote:What's the best 2025 draft pick we could get by trading Sarr?

The questions surrounding Sarr have already been answered. Before the draft we are looking at Sarr and navigating a range of possibilities. Now we have seen him have success. The first two months of the season Sarr shot 24.6% from 3, 37.6% from the field and put up 10.6 ppg. In March Sarr is shooting 37% from 3 on 5.4 3's a game, 38.7% from the field and 15.9 ppg. For a player that is very raw and needs to develop it would take a lot to get Sarr. Because Sarr has shown improvement and progress the chances of trading Sarr zero. I would take #1 straight up or the second pick plus. So either Flagg straight up or Harper and another first. A team would be better off just drafting either player and developing them.

This is crazy. The questions surrounding Sarr have absolutely not been answered. If you are pointing toward March as some indication that he has turned the corner, then we should all be really disappointed. So far in March, his TS% is .487! For a center! Yeah, his scoring is up, but at that efficiency, more scoring isn't actually a good thing.

I'm not saying Sarr can't become a good player. We all see the raw potential. But so far, he is NOT a good player and one 34 point night that took him 30 mostly unguarded shot attempts doesn't change that.
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Re: Official Trade Thread Part XLVII 

Post#220 » by DCZards » Sun Mar 16, 2025 4:12 pm

prime1time wrote:
nate33 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:Is this something you're advocating or just posing the question?

I'd advocate for it if it got us a pick in the 3-8 range.

LOL. Yeah lets trade a guy who just ran circles around Jokic and played his best game for the 8th pick in the draft straight up.

I’m not going to read too much into Sarr scoring easily against a player who does not defend the perimeter at all. That was a great situation for Alex that he won’t have many nights.

But, while I’m certainly not opposed to trading Sarr for the right deal, I see maybe 3-4 players I’d take in this draft with some confidence that they’re going to be better than Sarr 2-3 yrs from now. After that it’s a crapshoot…just like it was when drafting Sarr.

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