Rumors, Random Thoughts, and Non-threadworthy Posts 17.0 The Least Random

[jayjaysee]

So..

Klay+Lively+Martin to LAL
Rui+Reaves+2025 Dallas first+??? to Orlando
Suggs to Dallas

Dallas owe the LAL 2029 first? LAL owe their 2031 first? LAL just owes a 2030 swap and Dallas sends the 2030 first (with LAL swap option) to Orlando and keeps the LAL 2029 first?

Closing lineup of AD, PJ, Suggs, Kyrie with whichever of the three cheap hard workers is playing best that night (Christie, Naji, Martin)

I would, but I think we'll trade for KD. Lively/Gafford/PJ/Klay + Mavs lottery pick to Suns...
KD/Richards to Dallas.

AD/Richards
KD/O-Max
Martín/Marshall
Christie
KI

G. Allen to Orlando (or Houston)

Powell/Hardy/J. Howard + 2/3 SRP from Orlando + 1 from Mavs.

Suns get the savings to move off the 2nd apron

Dallas has 4 healthy NBA players and Phoenix still is struggling to let us get out of the last play-in spot…

I hope we don’t pay that much for a year older KD.

We will see.

[cucad8]

The Thunder being investigated for sitting players in a game they won by 18 seems petty. But also the league more worried about perception of fairness than anything else.

But if the league's concern is ticket buying customers not getting to see the stars, then cut your schedule back and give up some revenue to improve your product, to then hopefully grow your fanbase.

But sorry as long as you insist on 82 games and then make 2/3 of the league post-season eligible teams are going to do this because its in their best interest.

And no this isn't about players today not being as tough or as committed as players from the past. This is team driven not player driven.

I know the schedule will never be cut back because of $$, but finding a way to either slightly lengthen the season, or figure out a new group to make the schedules would certainly be good. The Blazers just got done with a stretch where they played 9 games in 15 days in 9 different cities, or 10 games in 17 days, and then we have 3 off days before the next game.

I know it's a huge undertaking to balance 30 teams, travel, and stadium schedules, but this happens way too frequently where we'll play a back to back, and then have a lot of rest. Couldn't sneak in any extra rest days in the stretch of games instead?

I know Portland is a slight travel anomaly because of how distant we are from the rest of our division/the league, but there's wonky travel that just shouldn't be. We have a stretch coming up where they play In NY, then down to Atlanta, then back up to Toronto. That Atlanta game couldn't have been put in when we played Miami, Charlotte and Orlando earlier?

[MoneyTalks41890]

Would the Bucks trade for the 18th pick from the Thunder in exchange for second-rate 1st swaps in 26, 28, and 30?

[Godaddycurse]

Would the Bucks trade for the 18th pick from the Thunder in exchange for second-rate 1st swaps in 26, 28, and 30?

why would they? i dont think 18th pick meaningfully changes their outlook next season(s)

[jayjaysee]

Would the Bucks trade for the 18th pick from the Thunder in exchange for second-rate 1st swaps in 26, 28, and 30?

I think they should consider it?

They already owe swaps each season.

And 2030 is the only year that they’d actually be swapping off of OKC’s picks. The other years OKC pick is already upgraded anyways.

[mademan]

Ill be very interested to see what KD goes for. His play/age/high salary should really return a moderately better Jimmy Butler package, but his name, legacy and the high price PHX paid for him means theyre gonna want a lot more.

[mademan]

So..

Klay+Lively+Martin to LAL
Rui+Reaves+2025 Dallas first+??? to Orlando
Suggs to Dallas

Dallas owe the LAL 2029 first? LAL owe their 2031 first? LAL just owes a 2030 swap and Dallas sends the 2030 first (with LAL swap option) to Orlando and keeps the LAL 2029 first?

Closing lineup of AD, PJ, Suggs, Kyrie with whichever of the three cheap hard workers is playing best that night (Christie, Naji, Martin)

I would, but I think we'll trade for KD. Lively/Gafford/PJ/Klay + Mavs lottery pick to Suns...
KD/Richards to Dallas.

AD/Richards
KD/O-Max
Martín/Marshall
Christie
KI

G. Allen to Orlando (or Houston)

Powell/Hardy/J. Howard + 2/3 SRP from Orlando + 1 from Mavs.

Suns get the savings to move off the 2nd apron

Dallas has 4 healthy NBA players and Phoenix still is struggling to let us get out of the last play-in spot…

I hope we don’t pay that much for a year older KD.

We will see.

Gafford/PJ/Klay and the lotto 1st seems like a solid deal. Dont know if PHX would accept, but if Kyrie comes back mid season as 80% of what he was this year, theyre a contender for a couple years

[facothomas22]

https://athlonsports.com/nba/philadelphia-76ers/philadelphia-76ers-make-massive-paul-george-trade-decision

I don't see anybody lining up to get him, but it doesn't hurt to try.

[jayjaysee]

I would, but I think we'll trade for KD. Lively/Gafford/PJ/Klay + Mavs lottery pick to Suns...
KD/Richards to Dallas.

AD/Richards
KD/O-Max
Martín/Marshall
Christie
KI

G. Allen to Orlando (or Houston)

Powell/Hardy/J. Howard + 2/3 SRP from Orlando + 1 from Mavs.

Suns get the savings to move off the 2nd apron

Dallas has 4 healthy NBA players and Phoenix still is struggling to let us get out of the last play-in spot…

I hope we don’t pay that much for a year older KD.

We will see.

Gafford/PJ/Klay and the lotto 1st seems like a solid deal. Dont know if PHX would accept, but if Kyrie comes back mid season as 80% of what he was this year, theyre a contender for a couple years

Yeah. I don’t want Dallas to do it, but that’s about the top I think they should go. Do see the attraction and the talent is obvious.

With the pick debt, I’d rather trade for someone that can last through AD/Kyrie’s decline with them.

[ejftw]

https://athlonsports.com/nba/philadelphia-76ers/philadelphia-76ers-make-massive-paul-george-trade-decision

I don't see anybody lining up to get him, but it doesn't hurt to try.

Somewhere, Norman Powell is smiling

[giberish]

Ill be very interested to see what KD goes for. His play/age/high salary should really return a moderately better Jimmy Butler package, but his name, legacy and the high price PHX paid for him means theyre gonna want a lot more.

KD's defense has collapsed this year. I expect a lot of that is bad vibes in Phoenix but at least some like likely age - and he'll be another year older next season.

I expect that I'll feel that the team trading for him overpaid, even as Suns fans are disappointed in the return.

[mademan]

Ill be very interested to see what KD goes for. His play/age/high salary should really return a moderately better Jimmy Butler package, but his name, legacy and the high price PHX paid for him means theyre gonna want a lot more.

KD's defense has collapsed this year. I expect a lot of that is bad vibes in Phoenix but at least some like likely age - and he'll be another year older next season.

I expect that I'll feel that the team trading for him overpaid, even as Suns fans are disappointed in the return.

This is how i feel. How about a Lakers deal

Rui/Reaves/Knecht/Maxi/Vincent gets the money there, add in a 1st and i dont think its that bad. Lakers still keep Vando/DFS and Suns can fork over Richards as a big body. Reaves/Knecht/1st is around where i'd put KD's value at this point, though i think he could go back to being a superstar weapon beside Luka/Lebron making us all think the league is rigged

[giberish]

Ill be very interested to see what KD goes for. His play/age/high salary should really return a moderately better Jimmy Butler package, but his name, legacy and the high price PHX paid for him means theyre gonna want a lot more.

KD's defense has collapsed this year. I expect a lot of that is bad vibes in Phoenix but at least some like likely age - and he'll be another year older next season.

I expect that I'll feel that the team trading for him overpaid, even as Suns fans are disappointed in the return.

This is how i feel. How about a Lakers deal

Rui/Reaves/Knecht/Maxi/Vincent gets the money there, add in a 1st and i dont think its that bad. Lakers still keep Vando/DFS and Suns can fork over Richards as a big body. Reaves/Knecht/1st is around where i'd put KD's value at this point, though i think he could go back to being a superstar weapon beside Luka/Lebron making us all think the league is rigged

As good as Doncic is, an extremely thin team with 2/3 of their huge money stars as old as KD and LeBron would be a great team to bet the under on for season win totals.

[Godaddycurse]

Morey lining up for a george/kd trade to all in one last time with Embiid imo

[the_process]

Morey lining up for a george/kd trade to all in one last time with Embiid imo

I refuse to believe that even Morey would be that shortsighted.

[Godaddycurse]

Morey lining up for a george/kd trade to all in one last time with Embiid imo

I refuse to believe that even Morey would be that shortsighted.

Considering the state Morey left Houston in prior to leaving... i dont think he will stick around for a rebuild. If he is still the GM he is going all in imo (unless embiid retires)

[Apz]

Ill be very interested to see what KD goes for. His play/age/high salary should really return a moderately better Jimmy Butler package, but his name, legacy and the high price PHX paid for him means theyre gonna want a lot more.

KD's defense has collapsed this year. I expect a lot of that is bad vibes in Phoenix but at least some like likely age - and he'll be another year older next season.

I expect that I'll feel that the team trading for him overpaid, even as Suns fans are disappointed in the return.

This is how i feel. How about a Lakers deal

Rui/Reaves/Knecht/Maxi/Vincent gets the money there, add in a 1st and i dont think its that bad. Lakers still keep Vando/DFS and Suns can fork over Richards as a big body. Reaves/Knecht/1st is around where i'd put KD's value at this point, though i think he could go back to being a superstar weapon beside Luka/Lebron making us all think the league is rigged

U dont steal a HoF player like luka and then make sure he walks at first chance. Lakers need to sell luka on titles during his contract. U dont do that by wasting everything on KD. Heck, cant even use lebron to sell it with. But the package maybe works for booker

[mademan]

KD's defense has collapsed this year. I expect a lot of that is bad vibes in Phoenix but at least some like likely age - and he'll be another year older next season.

I expect that I'll feel that the team trading for him overpaid, even as Suns fans are disappointed in the return.

This is how i feel. How about a Lakers deal

Rui/Reaves/Knecht/Maxi/Vincent gets the money there, add in a 1st and i dont think its that bad. Lakers still keep Vando/DFS and Suns can fork over Richards as a big body. Reaves/Knecht/1st is around where i'd put KD's value at this point, though i think he could go back to being a superstar weapon beside Luka/Lebron making us all think the league is rigged

U dont steal a HoF player like luka and then make sure he walks at first chance. Lakers need to sell luka on titles during his contract. U dont do that by wasting everything on KD. Heck, cant even use lebron to sell it with. But the package maybe works for booker

LA is LA, but even they cant pull it off for Booker.

LA will be forced into a semi rebuild at some point when Lebron retires. Reaves is gonna want big bucks and him+Luka on the books will likely make them capped out regardless with no future picks. Might as well go for it next year

[jayjaysee]

If Dallas wants to keep 11th-13th (hopefully Phoenix kicks us out of the play-in)..

Who is the best guard for Gafford+the LAL pick?

Or Naji+Gafford+LAL pick? Throw in Propser?

(Ideally it’s Klay as matching salary, but figure that lowers the talent returned so going that way)

Coby White? Monk? Or aim lower?

[mademan]

If Dallas wants to keep 11th-13th (hopefully Phoenix kicks us out of the play-in)..

Who is the best guard for Gafford+the LAL pick?

Or Naji+Gafford+LAL pick? Throw in Propser?

(Ideally it’s Klay as matching salary, but figure that lowers the talent returned so going that way)

Coby White? Monk? Or aim lower?

I'd aim lower. Klay/LA 1st (with some protection, top 4?) for Sexton. Gafford would probably still need to go with AD/Lively, though i can see the rationale for keeping him with their injury concerns. If you can get a solid guard for him, i'd go for it, but i wouldnt throw him away.

Gafford/Knecht shouldve been part of the deal