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I'll never understand why the lottery itself isn't televised. If the NBA wants viewers to believe it's a legitimate process, then why hide in a private room?
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:
Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Barlow/Watford/Walker
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome
Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Barlow/Watford/Walker
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome
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ProcessDoctor wrote:I'll never understand why the lottery itself isn't televised. If the NBA wants viewers to believe it's a legitimate process, then why hide in a private room?
I don’t think the way they do it would lend itself to the best presentation for the tv format. It’s a more complicated process of drawing multiple number combinations. It wouldn’t translate to tv like unveiling team logos. Honestly, if you don’t trust that the security firm and team reps are keeping it honest, then I don’t think televising it would make much a difference. If they are tricking team reps watching it live, then I’m sure they could find a way to rig a televised version.
Ultimately, they work with multi-number combinations to make it more difficult to rig the process, and that would make for a less dramatic unveiling of the draft order.
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Arsenal wrote:Wilfried wrote:the_process wrote:So after the NO game on the 24th (a loss), I predict this to be standings:
4. NO 20-53
5. PHI 22-50
6. BKN 22-50
7. TOR 25-47
Problem is, Sixers last 10 games include 2x WSH, TOR, and CHI. And BKN is probably only going to win one more game the rest of the year.
It looks as if the Sixers will finish sixth. Harris better have that frozen envelope secured after the stadium debacle.
Question is: Isn't it smarter to hand over the pick to OKC this season. From what I've heard, the 2026 draft is much more stacked and the pick is only protected 1-4 than.
On the other hand, with a healthy Maxey and McCain, we should be better than this season nevertheless?
No it's not smarter to hand OKC pick 7-9 this season as opposed to waiting until next year. It's very likely we'll be MUCH better next year than this year.
Yeah. When you suffer to the point where you are a bottom 6 team, keep the pick. If we suck next year, we could keep the pick if it land top 4. Either way, don’t overthink it because they always say next year’s draft is better. Either way, we are already horrible this year, so make your run at a building block. Then we can see how our team looks going into next season.
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sodmoraes wrote:Like people said, i dont think we can outtank the Nets, sadly. That snake silver is already bothering us, so Maxey and PG will probably be back in the next games. And the nets wont put Cam again this season... But i think we will lose more than the raptors, so we will end with the 6th worst record. Gotta pray for ping pong balls go our way...
Just see how it plays out. We are really bad. The Nets have as many easy games as us left. Their SOS isn’t accurate because it’s averaging their two Dallas games as a matchup against a team that is two games under .500, and Dallas isn’t that team. Also, they have two of their next three against Boston. Brooklyn isn’t good but could back into more wins than us.
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I don’t understand how the lakers kept the sixers pick for 3 years in a row all going number 2 until the sixers finally got it with the 10th pick with they picked bridges and promptly traded him for zhaire smith and and a unprotected heat pick
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ProcessDoctor wrote:I'll never understand why the lottery itself isn't televised. If the NBA wants viewers to believe it's a legitimate process, then why hide in a private room?
they do show it ...
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But obviously not in real time or else the announcement of the order later would be meaningless. They even have one representative from each team to oversee the drawing.
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LordCovington33 wrote:ProcessDoctor wrote:I'll never understand why the lottery itself isn't televised. If the NBA wants viewers to believe it's a legitimate process, then why hide in a private room?
they do show it ...
You kinda answered in the next post, I meant a live showing of the drawing of the ping pong balls and which team they belong to etc.
Having a representative from each team there doesn't really sell me on the idea that it isn't manipulated somehow.
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:
Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Barlow/Watford/Walker
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome
Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Barlow/Watford/Walker
Embiid/Bona/Drummond/Broome
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ProcessDoctor wrote:LordCovington33 wrote:ProcessDoctor wrote:I'll never understand why the lottery itself isn't televised. If the NBA wants viewers to believe it's a legitimate process, then why hide in a private room?
they do show it ...
You kinda answered in the next post, I meant a live showing of the drawing of the ping pong balls and which team they belong to etc.
Having a representative from each team there doesn't really sell me on the idea that it isn't manipulated somehow.
It is nonsensical to show it live as it would make the draft show later useless. That is way more suspenseful especially if your team had the 10th worst odds (for example) and is suddenly in the top 4. That is very exciting to watch. Plus you get to know the exact order of the picks - from 14 to 1 - while watching. If you want to watch the actual drawing, just go to youtube.
How is it manipulated? You see the balls go in, you see the balls shuffling about in the machine and you see them coming out. You also see each franchise representative with a list of 1001 combinations that show the combinations for each team. Unless you are suggesting the Ernst & Young representative on stage is actually a magician and is using sleight of hand somehow
And before you say the balls are not weighted equally, then no they are. Smartplay International is the organisation responsible for providing the balls - they weigh them and certify each one right before they come on stage. They are responsible for lottery systems in over 120 countries and they wouldn't rig it or else their business would go under the next day if word leaked. A representative from Ernst & Young oversees the whole thing, even sealing the envelopes that are sent to the show.
And before you say they can bring the balls up at any time. No, they can't. The timer faces away from the machine so that he cannot see the balls being randomised.
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The Nets tank game is very professional. Always looking like they have a chance of winning but them falling short at the end. Hard for Silver to go after them if they are playing competitive games.
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Heartbreaking (for us) losses for Nets and Pelicans tonight. Could have closed the gap a little on NO.
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Negrodamus wrote:Heartbreaking (for us) losses for Nets and Pelicans tonight. Could have closed the gap a little on NO.
that winning streak in late January will cost us
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sixers hoops wrote:Arsenal wrote:the_process wrote:
4.NO 22-60
5.BKN 23-59
6.PHI 24-58
And we're going to ask ourselves: "Why did they beat CLE and GSW?"
It is what it is. Team needs some lotto luck.
It depends if we shut down Maxey and Grimes or not. They've put out some reports that Maxey will be back during the road trip. That would be the dumbest move. Hopefully it's just air cover to avoid that snake fining us again.
If we shut down Maxey and limit Grimes, we can lose every game! I'm also very confident that BKN will get at least 2 more wins.
Adam Silver is a horrible commissioner and has no control over the league. He just keeps adding dumb tournaments that nobody cares about, while he has 10 teams fighting for ping-pong balls. He is such an idiot. He thought he created this great play-in game motivation. NBA teams aren’t knocking themselves out for a chance to get clobbered by the Celtics or Thunder. Making the playoffs was an accomplishment. Now the 10 seed in a 15 team conference is involved?
He is like a teacher with bad classroom management. He isn’t good at his job, so when he loses control, he scrambles with punitive measures to save face.
The in-season tournament is a flop. The All-Star tournament was an even bigger flop. The play-in games aren’t valued by teams.
Now Silver is spiraling out of control as teams are jockeying to finish as low as possible.
Now he wants to shorten games to 40 minutes as a way of shortening the regular season. Who knows what foolishness they'll try next year to attempt to make anyone (including the players) give a schiit about the all-star game. And maybe have blinking neon lighted floors will gin up interest in that silly in-season tournament.
Silver has a product that might be approaching cardiac arrest already if not for gambling. A healthy, thriving sport doesn't need gimmicks to generate interest, but that seems to be his only answer to every issue. And as you said, if ten of your teams are trying to figure out how to lose without appearing to try to lose just after the all-star break, your sport has a problem.
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mjkvol wrote:sixers hoops wrote:Arsenal wrote:
It depends if we shut down Maxey and Grimes or not. They've put out some reports that Maxey will be back during the road trip. That would be the dumbest move. Hopefully it's just air cover to avoid that snake fining us again.
If we shut down Maxey and limit Grimes, we can lose every game! I'm also very confident that BKN will get at least 2 more wins.
Adam Silver is a horrible commissioner and has no control over the league. He just keeps adding dumb tournaments that nobody cares about, while he has 10 teams fighting for ping-pong balls. He is such an idiot. He thought he created this great play-in game motivation. NBA teams aren’t knocking themselves out for a chance to get clobbered by the Celtics or Thunder. Making the playoffs was an accomplishment. Now the 10 seed in a 15 team conference is involved?
He is like a teacher with bad classroom management. He isn’t good at his job, so when he loses control, he scrambles with punitive measures to save face.
The in-season tournament is a flop. The All-Star tournament was an even bigger flop. The play-in games aren’t valued by teams.
Now Silver is spiraling out of control as teams are jockeying to finish as low as possible.
Now he wants to shorten games to 40 minutes as a way of shortening the regular season. Who knows what foolishness they'll try next year to attempt to make anyone (including the players) give a schiit about the all-star game. And maybe have blinking neon lighted floors will gin up interest in that silly in-season tournament.
Silver has a product that might be approaching cardiac arrest already if not for gambling. A healthy, thriving sport doesn't need gimmicks to generate interest, but that seems to be his only answer to every issue. And as you said, if ten of your teams are trying to figure out how to lose without appearing to try to lose just after the all-star break, your sport has a problem.
There's nothing anyone can do to change the fact that in basketball, to win a title you really have to have a top 5 player. And the statistically highest chance you have to obtain a top 5 player is through the top of the draft, unless you're the Lakers.
And I do feel like the play in tournament has lessened the amount of teams tanking... until you get to March. This time of the year, the teams not in a playoff spot want to lose all their games.
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the_process wrote:mjkvol wrote:sixers hoops wrote:
Adam Silver is a horrible commissioner and has no control over the league. He just keeps adding dumb tournaments that nobody cares about, while he has 10 teams fighting for ping-pong balls. He is such an idiot. He thought he created this great play-in game motivation. NBA teams aren’t knocking themselves out for a chance to get clobbered by the Celtics or Thunder. Making the playoffs was an accomplishment. Now the 10 seed in a 15 team conference is involved?
He is like a teacher with bad classroom management. He isn’t good at his job, so when he loses control, he scrambles with punitive measures to save face.
The in-season tournament is a flop. The All-Star tournament was an even bigger flop. The play-in games aren’t valued by teams.
Now Silver is spiraling out of control as teams are jockeying to finish as low as possible.
Now he wants to shorten games to 40 minutes as a way of shortening the regular season. Who knows what foolishness they'll try next year to attempt to make anyone (including the players) give a schiit about the all-star game. And maybe have blinking neon lighted floors will gin up interest in that silly in-season tournament.
Silver has a product that might be approaching cardiac arrest already if not for gambling. A healthy, thriving sport doesn't need gimmicks to generate interest, but that seems to be his only answer to every issue. And as you said, if ten of your teams are trying to figure out how to lose without appearing to try to lose just after the all-star break, your sport has a problem.
There's nothing anyone can do to change the fact that in basketball, to win a title you really have to have a top 5 player. And the statistically highest chance you have to obtain a top 5 player is through the top of the draft, unless you're the Lakers.
And I do feel like the play in tournament has lessened the amount of teams tanking... until you get to March. This time of the year, the teams not in a playoff spot want to lose all their games.
I liken the in-season tournament to the World Golf Championship events on the PGA tour. It's something no player really cares about other than the obscene purses that are offered to get the top players to play in those events. There's no prestige other than banking silly money for winning.
If Silver raises the purse in his silly event to 5 million per player, then he might get guys playing like they are playoff games, but it will still mean nothing in the big picture. At least the PGA tour has enough class not to make the playing surface look like a garish painting.
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I never thought I'd get excited about not just Tanking, but tanking not for the #1 pick - tanking to make the #6th pick (at least) and every day it changes... a day or two ago we were 5th and I was like YEAH BOY!!! Got that *5th* SPOT (at least) son! Today we're 6th lol , NO ROOM FOR ERROR ... and we have full month of 16 games lol ... talk about nail-biting.
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Samson wrote:I never thought I'd get excited about not just Tanking, but tanking not for the #1 pick - tanking to make the #6th pick (at least) and every day it changes... a day or two ago we were 5th and I was like YEAH BOY!!! Got that *5th* SPOT (at least) son! Today we're 6th lol , NO ROOM FOR ERROR ... and we have full month of 16 games lol ... talk about nail-biting.
And now that Cam Thomas is out for the season with a hamstring strain, that hill will be tougher to climb.
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mjkvol wrote:the_process wrote:mjkvol wrote:
Now he wants to shorten games to 40 minutes as a way of shortening the regular season. Who knows what foolishness they'll try next year to attempt to make anyone (including the players) give a schiit about the all-star game. And maybe have blinking neon lighted floors will gin up interest in that silly in-season tournament.
Silver has a product that might be approaching cardiac arrest already if not for gambling. A healthy, thriving sport doesn't need gimmicks to generate interest, but that seems to be his only answer to every issue. And as you said, if ten of your teams are trying to figure out how to lose without appearing to try to lose just after the all-star break, your sport has a problem.
There's nothing anyone can do to change the fact that in basketball, to win a title you really have to have a top 5 player. And the statistically highest chance you have to obtain a top 5 player is through the top of the draft, unless you're the Lakers.
And I do feel like the play in tournament has lessened the amount of teams tanking... until you get to March. This time of the year, the teams not in a playoff spot want to lose all their games.
I liken the in-season tournament to the World Golf Championship events on the PGA tour. It's something no player really cares about other than the obscene purses that are offered to get the top players to play in those events. There's no prestige other than banking silly money for winning.
If Silver raises the purse in his silly event to 5 million per player, then he might get guys playing like they are playoff games, but it will still mean nothing in the big picture. At least the PGA tour has enough class not to make the playing surface look like a garish painting.
I agree with you as it regards in the in season tournament thing. Won't stop LA and MIL from hanging banners like this is the FA Cup or something
Speaking of which, it wouldn't surprise me if the league goes full soccer at some point.
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We absolutely cannot afford one more win this year. Whatever it takes, we need to lose the last 15 games to finish 23-59.
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Arsenal wrote:We absolutely cannot afford one more win this year. Whatever it takes, we need to lose the last 15 games to finish 23-59.
We have two against the Wiz. They are 6-4 in their last ten.
Games against Toronto and Chicago who have been playing better.
NO who is a little more competitive.
SA is without Wemby and Fox, which might not offer much resistance.
We have two against Miami who have been playing pretty bad.
At least no more against Utah, Charlotte, Dallas
Brooklyn has two against Dallas who are 2-8 in their last 10.
Two against the Raps. The might lose both of them.
Games against NO and Wash. Both playing better but in the mix of potential wins for us and BRK.
We’ll see what lineup the Knicks send out the last game of the season against Brooklyn.





