Straight hoops, who was better: OKC KD or Current SGA?

[Onlytimewilltel]

Considering a 36 year old post achilles KD is averaging 27/6/4 on great splits i wonder just how **** dominant he would in this rendition of the NBA at Shai's age.

KD could average 20 at age 50 just because of his size, length and shooting. I’d bet money an 80 year old KD could still score on almost anyone in the league because of this.

Yup I’m in agreement also. I’d go as far as to say that even a 130 year old KD could put up stats in today’s weak sauce league. Sure, he’d be dead and all, but still .. with his length and shooting, you just can’t deny the guy regardless. He da real MVP!

[Lalouie]

kd is like that pure soul in seven samurai and magnificent seven
a matchless perfector of the art

with all the ancillary stuff i'd take sga. hell i'd take a lot of players over kd, but you're talking straight hoops as in "the art of" - i'll take kd.

[Catchall]

KD was devastating. He could just pull up from 30 feet and drill 3PAs, and there was nothing anyone could do about it.

[sikma42]

Can someone explain what SGA does better than OKC KD on the basketball court?

The ONLY thing I can think of is draw fouls. Legit nothing else.

Just to get ahead of it:

- KD was a better defender
- SGA as a playmaker has been a WEAKNESS for OKC. See last years playoffs. He’s just a scorer and we all know he’s no KD there.
——-You put prime KD on athletic squad with shooters and defenders like that and he could prob average 40. I don’t even like KD but there aren’t the same as scorers.

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[kazyv]

Can someone explain what SGA does better than OKC KD on the basketball court?

The ONLY thing I can think of is draw fouls. Legit nothing else.

Just to get ahead of it:

- KD was a better defender
- SGA as a playmaker has been a WEAKNESS for OKC. See last years playoffs. He’s just a scorer and we all know he’s no KD there.
——-You put prime KD on athletic squad with shooters and defenders like that and he could prob average 40. I don’t even like KD but there aren’t the same as scorers.

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One of the craziest things with KD is just how little love he gets from the referees... Players are allowed to get extra physical with him, while it's the opposite with Shai.

If you look at Shai funny you're in danger of getting a technical foul

what is this rewriting of history? have we all forgotten the rip through? before they abolished the move, so in his MVP season and before that one KD averaged more FTA all while shooting fewer shots and probably driving a lot less.

also very interesting how KD is supposedly the better defender, when it never ever showed up in OKCs defensive performance there. maybe he should have tried using his superior skills and actually defended better

[Special_Puppy]

This thread is basically asking do you think current Shai Gilegous-Alexander is on par with Miami LeBron James.

Kevin Durant was not on par with peak LeBron

[Special_Puppy]

I’m suprised this is so decisively in KD’s favor.

[Special_Puppy]

Can someone explain what SGA does better than OKC KD on the basketball court?

The ONLY thing I can think of is draw fouls. Legit nothing else.

Just to get ahead of it:

- KD was a better defender
- SGA as a playmaker has been a WEAKNESS for OKC. See last years playoffs. He’s just a scorer and we all know he’s no KD there.
——-You put prime KD on athletic squad with shooters and defenders like that and he could prob average 40. I don’t even like KD but there aren’t the same as scorers.

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Ball Security. If SGA is your main offensive center piece, your team is going to have a low turnover rate

[Statlanta]

This thread is basically asking do you think current Shai Gilegous-Alexander is on par with Miami LeBron James.

Kevin Durant was not on par with peak LeBron

He was that's why he won the 2014 MVP and gave the 2014 NBA Champions more of a fight.

[JimmyFromNz]

Despite the fact SGA is likely to win an MVP over peak Jokic, why does it feel this season is still being underrated?

Are people actually tuning in?

I'd take Durant narrowly but it's certainly a good discussion.

[Nowascki]

and gave the 2014 NBA Champions more of a fight.

Lebron against the Spurs = 28.2/7.8/4.0 - 67.9 TS%
Durant against the Spurs = 25.8/7.7/3.2 - 56.0 TS%

And Lebron played less minutes as well

[MMyhre]

KD as the main option in the postseason was a choker who lost all his efficiency. One of the most overrated players judging from some of the comments, and he was certainly not equal to peak LeBron who maintained or increased his production in the postseason.

[MMyhre]

Can someone explain what SGA does better than OKC KD on the basketball court?

The ONLY thing I can think of is draw fouls. Legit nothing else.

Just to get ahead of it:

- KD was a better defender
- SGA as a playmaker has been a WEAKNESS for OKC. See last years playoffs. He’s just a scorer and we all know he’s no KD there.
——-You put prime KD on athletic squad with shooters and defenders like that and he could prob average 40. I don’t even like KD but there aren’t the same as scorers.

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Lol, KD was a **** playmaker and lost tons of series chucking it up on low efficiency. Glaze off thanks. KD in OKC was not a better defender.

[sikma42]

Can someone explain what SGA does better than OKC KD on the basketball court?

The ONLY thing I can think of is draw fouls. Legit nothing else.

Just to get ahead of it:

- KD was a better defender
- SGA as a playmaker has been a WEAKNESS for OKC. See last years playoffs. He’s just a scorer and we all know he’s no KD there.
——-You put prime KD on athletic squad with shooters and defenders like that and he could prob average 40. I don’t even like KD but there aren’t the same as scorers.

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One of the craziest things with KD is just how little love he gets from the referees... Players are allowed to get extra physical with him, while it's the opposite with Shai.

If you look at Shai funny you're in danger of getting a technical foul

what is this rewriting of history? have we all forgotten the rip through? before they abolished the move, so in his MVP season and before that one KD averaged more FTA all while shooting fewer shots and probably driving a lot less.

also very interesting how KD is supposedly the better defender, when it never ever showed up in OKCs defensive performance there. maybe he should have tried using his superior skills and actually defended better

It showed up in the playoffs, when games matter. It’s the defense that swings championships.

Cant believe people have me defending KD. As a Lakers fan and someone how has followed multiple championship teams…people (especially OKC fans) overemphasize the regular season.


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[sikma42]

Can someone explain what SGA does better than OKC KD on the basketball court?

The ONLY thing I can think of is draw fouls. Legit nothing else.

Just to get ahead of it:

- KD was a better defender
- SGA as a playmaker has been a WEAKNESS for OKC. See last years playoffs. He’s just a scorer and we all know he’s no KD there.
——-You put prime KD on athletic squad with shooters and defenders like that and he could prob average 40. I don’t even like KD but there aren’t the same as scorers.

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Lol, KD was a **** playmaker and lost tons of series chucking it up on low efficiency. Glaze off thanks. KD in OKC was not a better defender.

So what do you think happened to KD where he was so impactful in GS? This is just such a low level basketball take. He just woke up in the Bay and became better at defense. He was that same guy in OKC, it was there but the roles and schemes were different and only really used for bits in the playoffs. SGA isn’t some all world defender. He may not even be a top 2 point of attack defender on his team. It’s just an amazing defensive collective of talent that makes it really hard to single out who is really making the impact.

Do you think he is a better defender than:

Jalen Williams
Dort
Caruso

Not even gonna mention the bigs.


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[og15]

One of the craziest things with KD is just how little love he gets from the referees... Players are allowed to get extra physical with him, while it's the opposite with Shai.

If you look at Shai funny you're in danger of getting a technical foul

KD did abuse the rip through to get FT's for some time until it became side out of bounds, but Shai gets his FT's in slippery movement, KD at his height can't get a step on guys and slither around like that

[DusterBuster]

KD and this isn’t particularly close tbh.

[og15]

KD was devastating. He could just pull up from 30 feet and drill 3PAs, and there was nothing anyone could do about it.

Sounds like you're describing Curry, that wasn't really KD's game

He was a super deadly scorer, still is, but before he of course had a much stronger driving game to add to his whole scoring package.

[DaPessimist]

I'll take OKC KD because of his defensive diversity. Although SGA is a better defender at his position.

SGA is actually my favorite player in the game today. It'll be interesting to see how, and how much, he improves over the next few seasons. KD's peak was actually his 2nd year in GSW, where his become an elite defender combined with an unstoppable scorer.

I find it hard to believe that SGA can peak higher than KD simply based on KD's physical tools. You can't teach tall.

[sp6r=underrated]

I’m suprised this is so decisively in KD’s favor.

Same. I favor SGA but can understand the Durant pick. What I can't understand is viewing Durant as a player on par with peak Lebron. If he was that great, 10s OKC would have broken through.

They were snakebit with super hard playoff draws and injuries but they would have been able to withstand that if KD really was this GOAT level player at his peak.