Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Season Discussion

[LookToShoot]

Even with a healthy Brunson, this team has hit their ceiling. They’re the 2016 or 2017 Celtics led by a small, shoot first point guard and spare parts. They’ll play hard, but won’t win anything.

I’m hoping the Bucks flame out in the playoffs and Giannis wants to play in New York. It could happen.

[TheGreenArrow]

Will this thread be locked up since Dolan admitted that the Knicks were done with trades for the next few years?

I came here to post the same exact question. Good job.

We’ll see after the eventual 1strd exit if Dolan and Leon are signing the same tune!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HarthorneWingo]

Will this thread be locked up since Dolan admitted that the Knicks were done with trades for the next few years?

I came here to post the same exact question. Good job.

We’ll see after the eventual 1strd exit if Dolan and Leon are signing the same tune!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't think we're losing in the first round, especially if we're heathy.

[TheGreenArrow]

I came here to post the same exact question. Good job.

We’ll see after the eventual 1strd exit if Dolan and Leon are signing the same tune!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't think we're losing in the first round, especially if we're heathy.

Don’t think we can beat Detroit tbh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HopelessKnick]

We’ll see after the eventual 1strd exit if Dolan and Leon are signing the same tune!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't think we're losing in the first round, especially if we're heathy.

Don’t think we can beat Detroit tbh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If Brunson comes back somewhat healthy we'll beat them but it won't be pretty. The lack of any bench development will make us struggle to win despite being more talented and at the same time their bench production will keep them in games against us deep into second halves of games. These things are so forseeable and common sense it made me lose all trust in Thibs.

[HopelessKnick]

Even with a healthy Brunson, this team has hit their ceiling. They’re the 2016 or 2017 Celtics led by a small, shoot first point guard and spare parts. They’ll play hard, but won’t win anything.

I’m hoping the Bucks flame out in the playoffs and Giannis wants to play in New York. It could happen.

It is possible but the Bucks will ask for OG and KAT because we don't have any picks. And then you have the trouble of spacing if you would want to play Mitch and Giannis alongside each other, although it'd be spectacular on defense. Just imagine we'd get Giannis/Lopez for Bridges/KAT package.

Brunson/Kolek
Deuce/Hart
OG/Hart
Giannis/Precious
Mitch/Lopez

the defense would be borderline criminal. The spacing would be bad but the defense would be so good that with 2-3 good bench guys we'd win games easily by just scoring 100 points.

[ctorres]

I see KAT welcoming a trade after the team did not have his back with regards to Draymond

He will gladly go to the Suns to team up with his old college teammate Devin Booker

Knicks will get Kevin Durant

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Lots of chat right now about whether/if the Nuggets should trade Jokic and/or if he's getting tired of carrying so hard.

I don't see how the Knicks can make a realistic bid for him, but what about Brunson and Hart for Jokic .... (and yes, there has to be throw ins to other teams to make the money work, but it's nothing egregious - like half a mil)? How much draft capital would the Knicks have to include for that to work?

Jokic
KAT
OG
Bridges
Deuce

Here it doesn't really matter if the Knicks don't have a first-string PG, ldo.

[Clyde_Style]

Lots of chat right now about whether/if the Nuggets should trade Jokic and/or if he's getting tired of carrying so hard.

I don't see how the Knicks can make a realistic bid for him, but what about Brunson and Hart for Jokic .... (and yes, there has to be throw ins to other teams to make the money work, but it's nothing egregious - like half a mil)? How much draft capital would the Knicks have to include for that to work?

Jokic
KAT
OG
Bridges
Deuce

Here it doesn't really matter if the Knicks don't have a first-string PG, ldo.

I don't care who we trade to get Jokic, the trade will have my blessing. The guy is a wizard

[HopelessKnick]

Lots of chat right now about whether/if the Nuggets should trade Jokic and/or if he's getting tired of carrying so hard.

I don't see how the Knicks can make a realistic bid for him, but what about Brunson and Hart for Jokic .... (and yes, there has to be throw ins to other teams to make the money work, but it's nothing egregious - like half a mil)? How much draft capital would the Knicks have to include for that to work?

Jokic
KAT
OG
Bridges
Deuce

Here it doesn't really matter if the Knicks don't have a first-string PG, ldo.

I don't care who we trade to get Jokic, the trade will have my blessing. The guy is a wizard

I can't see a universe where the Nuggets trade him without Jokic explicitly pressuring them into a deal. Of course I would have said the same thing about Doncic so who knows. But after the Bridges trade I don't see us having the necessary draft capital to outbid other teams.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Lots of chat right now about whether/if the Nuggets should trade Jokic and/or if he's getting tired of carrying so hard.

I don't see how the Knicks can make a realistic bid for him, but what about Brunson and Hart for Jokic .... (and yes, there has to be throw ins to other teams to make the money work, but it's nothing egregious - like half a mil)? How much draft capital would the Knicks have to include for that to work?

Jokic
KAT
OG
Bridges
Deuce

Here it doesn't really matter if the Knicks don't have a first-string PG, ldo.

I don't care who we trade to get Jokic, the trade will have my blessing. The guy is a wizard

I can't see a universe where the Nuggets trade him without Jokic explicitly pressuring them into a deal. Of course I would have said the same thing about Doncic so who knows. But after the Bridges trade I don't see us having the necessary draft capital to outbid other teams.

The speculation is - and it's probably a lot of wishful thinking - that he might pressure them to trade him, either now or if Luka to the Nuggets doesn't become a thing in summer 2026. I agree draft capital would be tough..

[HopelessKnick]

I don't care who we trade to get Jokic, the trade will have my blessing. The guy is a wizard

I can't see a universe where the Nuggets trade him without Jokic explicitly pressuring them into a deal. Of course I would have said the same thing about Doncic so who knows. But after the Bridges trade I don't see us having the necessary draft capital to outbid other teams.

The speculation is - and it's probably a lot of wishful thinking - that he might pressure them to trade him, either now or if Luka to the Nuggets doesn't become a thing in summer 2026. I agree draft capital would be tough..

Damn, Jokic and Doncic would be incredible fun to watch but I believe has already expressed his loyalty to the Lakers so that option is likely to fall through for Denver.

[thebuzzardman]

Lots of chat right now about whether/if the Nuggets should trade Jokic and/or if he's getting tired of carrying so hard.

I don't see how the Knicks can make a realistic bid for him, but what about Brunson and Hart for Jokic .... (and yes, there has to be throw ins to other teams to make the money work, but it's nothing egregious - like half a mil)? How much draft capital would the Knicks have to include for that to work?

Jokic
KAT
OG
Bridges
Deuce

Here it doesn't really matter if the Knicks don't have a first-string PG, ldo.

I'm for any trade that gets Brunson off the Knicks. Fans here don't deserve him.

What does Anthony Davis make? Do their salaries match?

[WargamesX]

Why did they trade Grimes again?

[thebuzzardman]

Why did they trade Grimes again?

Because when he was here he'd go like 7 games in row being 1-7 from 3 point land before having a game where he'd hit them?

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks trade Brunson yet? Team isn't going anywhere with him, might as well get some value back.

[HopelessKnick]

Looking at the league's elite teams, not just today but also in the past, I have to say that we deserve to be where we are right now (not contending). If you look at all the true title contenders, 95% of them had a good part of their rotation contributing massively while being homegrown:

Giannis, Middleton, Tatum, Brown, James, Irving, Jokic, Murray, MPJ, Curry, Thompson, Green etc. ---Today we only have Mitch and Deuce as homegrown talent. Both useful players but in reality still a small part of the roster. Players like Duren or especially J-Williams were obtainable but we traded away those picks. That's the biggest downside with Leon/Thibs approach----putting all our eggs in the trade basket. I still think we'll need to integrate 1-2 of our homegrown guys into the rotation as significant contributors....otherwise I see us locked into our current position. I can only hope between Kolek, Dadiet and Hukporti we can find one or two of them that can develop into real good bench contributors next season as I don't see us being able to significantly upgrade the bench via the trade route. Good bench players make usually 10+mill. in salary and we don't have the contracts outside our core players.

[HopelessKnick]

Lots of chat right now about whether/if the Nuggets should trade Jokic and/or if he's getting tired of carrying so hard.

I don't see how the Knicks can make a realistic bid for him, but what about Brunson and Hart for Jokic .... (and yes, there has to be throw ins to other teams to make the money work, but it's nothing egregious - like half a mil)? How much draft capital would the Knicks have to include for that to work?

Jokic
KAT
OG
Bridges
Deuce

Here it doesn't really matter if the Knicks don't have a first-string PG, ldo.

I'm for any trade that gets Brunson off the Knicks. Fans here don't deserve him.

What does Anthony Davis make? Do their salaries match?

Brunson will retire a knick and you will love it. But I agree that some knick fans are taking him for granted already. Some of the criticism is ridiculous but it is a tiny minority. The real question is not about Brunson but about KAT----can the roster be constructed in a way that two weak defensive links can be hidden?

[Adelheid]

methinks KAT defense can be tolerable as long as he is not the center.
brunson...yeah well nothing can be done about it

[Jalen Bluntson]

Looking at the league's elite teams, not just today but also in the past, I have to say that we deserve to be where we are right now (not contending). If you look at all the true title contenders, 95% of them had a good part of their rotation contributing massively while being homegrown:

Giannis, Middleton, Tatum, Brown, James, Irving, Jokic, Murray, MPJ, Curry, Thompson, Green etc. ---Today we only have Mitch and Deuce as homegrown talent. Both useful players but in reality still a small part of the roster. Players like Duren or especially J-Williams were obtainable but we traded away those picks. That's the biggest downside with Leon/Thibs approach----putting all our eggs in the trade basket. I still think we'll need to integrate 1-2 of our homegrown guys into the rotation as significant contributors....otherwise I see us locked into our current position. I can only hope between Kolek, Dadiet and Hukporti we can find one or two of them that can develop into real good bench contributors next season as I don't see us being able to significantly upgrade the bench via the trade route. Good bench players make usually 10+mill. in salary and we don't have the contracts outside our core players.

You are naming HOF/all star level homegrown players. Many were high lottery picks.

I agree with the main point that we punted too many picks recently but, we didn't build through the draft in that sense. For some reason we're better drafting outside the lottery. Deuce/Mitch/Grimes/IQ was a great couple of drafts. None in the lottery and two weren't even in the first round. Hitting on picks wherever you land them is not as easy as it sounds either. We aren't the only team missing on players in the draft by any stretch of the imagination. Hindsight is 20/20.

We traded all of our youth that we did draft for OG/Precious/KAT and we sent out all of our remaining picks for Mikal. That's a great group of talent right there even if we didn't draft them. We overpaid for Mikal in terms of picks but, we sent them garbage players. It doesn't quite balance out but, are any of the players we traded for Mikal even playing in the NBA anymore?

The Grimes trade was terrible but, Thibs was done with him. That's a problem. We wasted another year on Sims and let Grimes get away. I think the HC influenced those decisions.

Brunson/Mikal/Hart/OG/KAT is the best starting 5 we have had since Ewing was here basically. Not mad that we didn't draft any of them. It really doesn't matter. The bigger problem is how the HC runs things. It's my opinion he is the reason we skip drafts and trade back every year. He's simply not gonna develop a young team. They will have to click right away or be traded for vets.

I think Mitch and Deuce are great homegrown players anyway. They are a big part of what we do as well. Injuries have been the biggest issue there. Mainly for Mitch but, Deuce has had his own injuries every year too causing him to miss time.