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Does anyone have any insight into how the Raps have treated our lone holdover from the ‘ship and longest serving team member?
Were we actually attempting to trade him? He was on fire leading up to the deadline, single handedly keeping us in and winning some games. Clearly he could have upgraded many a contender. Were we just not offered that desired first rounder? I’d have taken a second rounder or two, hindsight being 20/20.
I guess we’re no longer playing him to ensure losing, but why is he still here? Are we punishing him for something? It seems weird AF that we didn’t buy him out and let him go play for another ring. Why would we not have at least done that?
Is there any benefit to still having him under contract?
I can see us signing him to the minimum next year if he doesn’t get a better offer, but could we not have bought him out and still resigned him?
Feels like Chris is getting screwed. Doesn’t seem cool and I just don’t understand it.
Were we actually attempting to trade him? He was on fire leading up to the deadline, single handedly keeping us in and winning some games. Clearly he could have upgraded many a contender. Were we just not offered that desired first rounder? I’d have taken a second rounder or two, hindsight being 20/20.
I guess we’re no longer playing him to ensure losing, but why is he still here? Are we punishing him for something? It seems weird AF that we didn’t buy him out and let him go play for another ring. Why would we not have at least done that?
Is there any benefit to still having him under contract?
I can see us signing him to the minimum next year if he doesn’t get a better offer, but could we not have bought him out and still resigned him?
Feels like Chris is getting screwed. Doesn’t seem cool and I just don’t understand it.
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Should have just done the right thing and waived him and let him go to another team, when we couldn't get a deal done. Not sure why we care about his bird rights when it's clear that he's not part of this team's future.
The plan was always going to tank this season. We don't need him for that.
I guess Boucher is the designated donkey that we like to kick around.
The plan was always going to tank this season. We don't need him for that.
I guess Boucher is the designated donkey that we like to kick around.
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my unfounded theory. they are not playing him so he doesnt get hurt entering his UFA summer.
all the players we are putting out there are either already under contract next season or are two-way non guaranteed guys looking to sign a deal somewhere next season.
boucher is the only vet UFA that could command more than the minimum - if he plays while we tank and gets hurt, that can really effect his next deal.
all the players we are putting out there are either already under contract next season or are two-way non guaranteed guys looking to sign a deal somewhere next season.
boucher is the only vet UFA that could command more than the minimum - if he plays while we tank and gets hurt, that can really effect his next deal.
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at the deadline no team would offer a 2nd for boucher cause winnings teams hate his 0.5 assist a game and tunnel vision and lackluster defense...in the summer only crappy teams will offer him vet min
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bobbyp3588 wrote:Does anyone have any insight into how the Raps have treated our lone holdover from the ‘ship and longest serving team member?
Were we actually attempting to trade him? He was on fire leading up to the deadline, single handedly keeping us in and winning some games. Clearly he could have upgraded many a contender. Were we just not offered that desired first rounder? I’d have taken a second rounder or two, hindsight being 20/20.
I guess we’re no longer playing him to ensure losing, but why is he still here? Are we punishing him for something? It seems weird AF that we didn’t buy him out and let him go play for another ring. Why would we not have at least done that?
Is there any benefit to still having him under contract?
I can see us signing him to the minimum next year if he doesn’t get a better offer, but could we not have bought him out and still resigned him?
Feels like Chris is getting screwed. Doesn’t seem cool and I just don’t understand it.
Been saying this forever but the board only cares about players that the organization pushes. When someone else gets **** and isn’t part of the agenda no one gives a ****.
Once the golden boy players who everyone is dick riding right now start getting antagonized in the media, watch the collective mentality of these same posters change.
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
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dballislife wrote:at the deadline no team would offer a 2nd for boucher cause winnings teams hate his 0.5 assist a game and tunnel vision and lackluster defense...in the summer only crappy teams will offer him vet min
I don’t agree with your assessment. Raptors clearly didn’t want to take on salary beyond this year and no one was going to give up draft assets without moving off future salary and thus bouche wasn’t traded. NO preferred Bouche to Kelly but we wanted off of Kelly’s salary and so we paid up the 31 2nd.
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djsunyc wrote:my unfounded theory. they are not playing him so he doesnt get hurt entering his UFA summer.
all the players we are putting out there are either already under contract next season or are two-way non guaranteed guys looking to sign a deal somewhere next season.
boucher is the only vet UFA that could command more than the minimum - if he plays while we tank and gets hurt, that can really effect his next deal.
If we really cared about him and his health, why not just waive him? That way he can go to another team to try to prove his worth for a new contract. Whether he does it or not, it's up to him at that point.
We're not going to play him and we have no plans to re-sign him so why keep him here?
I don't even really like him as a player but don't see the point in wasting his time here when he could be playing somewhere else for his next contract.
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It's easy to forget he's even on the roster still.
Organization can be defined as an organized body of people with a particular purpose. Not random.
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gp2015 wrote:djsunyc wrote:my unfounded theory. they are not playing him so he doesnt get hurt entering his UFA summer.
all the players we are putting out there are either already under contract next season or are two-way non guaranteed guys looking to sign a deal somewhere next season.
boucher is the only vet UFA that could command more than the minimum - if he plays while we tank and gets hurt, that can really effect his next deal.
If we really cared about him and his health, why not just waive him? That way he can go to another team to try to prove his worth for a new contract. Whether he does it or not, it's up to him at that point.
We're not going to play him and we have no plans to re-sign him so why keep him here?
I don't even really like him as a player but don't see the point in wasting his time here when he could be playing somewhere else for his next contract.
has to do with bird's rights, sign and trades, etc.
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No one offered anything last year
No one offered anything this year
He didn't ask to get waived
He hasn't complained about not playing
They HAVE talked to him
Seems he is quite OK staying in Tor.and not playing this year.
No one offered anything this year
He didn't ask to get waived
He hasn't complained about not playing
They HAVE talked to him
Seems he is quite OK staying in Tor.and not playing this year.
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djsunyc wrote:gp2015 wrote:djsunyc wrote:my unfounded theory. they are not playing him so he doesnt get hurt entering his UFA summer.
all the players we are putting out there are either already under contract next season or are two-way non guaranteed guys looking to sign a deal somewhere next season.
boucher is the only vet UFA that could command more than the minimum - if he plays while we tank and gets hurt, that can really effect his next deal.
If we really cared about him and his health, why not just waive him? That way he can go to another team to try to prove his worth for a new contract. Whether he does it or not, it's up to him at that point.
We're not going to play him and we have no plans to re-sign him so why keep him here?
I don't even really like him as a player but don't see the point in wasting his time here when he could be playing somewhere else for his next contract.
has to do with bird's rights, sign and trades, etc.
Bird rights only matter if you're planning on re-signing them or trading them. It's apparent we are doing neither.
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Tripod wrote:No one offered anything last year
No one offered anything this year
He didn't ask to get waived
He hasn't complained about not playing
They HAVE talked to him
Seems he is quite OK staying in Tor.and not playing this year.
I don't know about this year, but last year Blake Murphy - if I remember correctly - was pretty adamant that there was a deal for a 2nd round pick, but reading between the tea leaves it meant we would have to take more money/years back.
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ForeverTFC wrote:Tripod wrote:No one offered anything last year
No one offered anything this year
He didn't ask to get waived
He hasn't complained about not playing
They HAVE talked to him
Seems he is quite OK staying in Tor.and not playing this year.
I don't know about this year, but last year Blake Murphy - if I remember correctly - was pretty adamant that there was a deal for a 2nd round pick, but reading between the tea leaves it meant we would have to take more money/years back.
Yeah...I think someone might have offered a 2nd for him this year but added cap with term, not a worse expiring guy. So at that point it makes no sense.
But if not one team was willing to offer actual value...no strings attached...then that was his value.
And the fact Chris didn't come out to the media and say he is frustrated, tells me he is fine with not getting bought out(and losing money) to go elsewhere this year.