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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1341 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:34 pm

mpharris36 wrote:Winston is also really likable (he's like authentically goofy). And from what I hear a great teammate.

So I would be more than ok with Winston as a bridge guy. He not going to help us win many games but at least entertain me!


Yeah he is. I remember when he was on the Saints, he got his knee torn up during the game. Saints rallied for the win and after the game he's on crutches in the middle of the room dancing and clowning with his teammates. I wouldn't mind keeping him around past this season tbh.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1342 » by TerrenceClarke » Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:50 pm

mpharris36 wrote:Winston is also really likable (he's like authentically goofy). And from what I hear a great teammate.

So I would be more than ok with Winston as a bridge guy. He not going to help us win many games but at least entertain me!


Thats what Im saying. At minimum JW and Nabers should be entertaining.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1343 » by TerrenceClarke » Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:40 pm

The sentiment around the fan base seems to mirror here. Multiple fans posting they want it to happen.

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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1344 » by mpharris36 » Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:15 pm

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Winston was at 7.2 Yards per attempt last season. I think the Giants as a team ranked at the bottom around 6.0 yards per attempt.

So it would be interesting to see the ball get pushed down the field and see what the WR core do with that.

Flacco was at 7.1 Yards per attempt so I would be fine with him as well.

Don't really care about the Winston turnover issues since I don't expect us to be good next year anyway. But it would be interesting to see how the offense looks with a QB that can really push the ball down the field.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1345 » by TerrenceClarke » Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:37 pm

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Winston was at 7.2 Yards per attempt last season. I think the Giants as a team ranked at the bottom around 6.0 yards per attempt.

So it would be interesting to see the ball get pushed down the field and see what the WR core do with that.

Flacco was at 7.1 Yards per attempt so I would be fine with him as well.

Don't really care about the Winston turnover issues since I don't expect us to be good next year anyway. But it would be interesting to see how the offense looks with a QB that can really push the ball down the field.


I feel like there should be no reason that he leaves with out contract. We can get a bridge. He will be much cheaper, and we can still lose a bunch of games, but sadly the FO is thirsty for wins so they will prob will still keep waiting on rodgers.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1346 » by mpharris36 » Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:48 pm

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Winston was at 7.2 Yards per attempt last season. I think the Giants as a team ranked at the bottom around 6.0 yards per attempt.

So it would be interesting to see the ball get pushed down the field and see what the WR core do with that.

Flacco was at 7.1 Yards per attempt so I would be fine with him as well.

Don't really care about the Winston turnover issues since I don't expect us to be good next year anyway. But it would be interesting to see how the offense looks with a QB that can really push the ball down the field.


I feel like there should be no reason that he leaves with out contract. We can get a bridge. He will be much cheaper, and we can still lose a bunch of games, but sadly the FO is thirsty for wins so they will prob will still keep waiting on rodgers.


Yeah I mean can you blame them though? There careers as a GM/HC are now tied to wins. From Stafford to now Rodgers Mara has clearly forced wins on them.

Now this may be one case where losing out on a player like the Giants did with Stafford helps because he wasn't making the Giants better than the Eagles or Commanders next year (along with trading picks and that contract Stafford would have required). Rodgers wont either but the FO sees this as just buying them time. If they can win enough games and show Mara that with decent QB play Daboll's offense will look better and Schoen's roster will look better. Then they can be patient and let the young QB whoever they go with develop.

As for Giants fan most have come the assumption next year probably wont be good anyway and the GM/HC will eventually be fired and then we just need to make next season interesting and entertaining and buy time. And Winston as a bridge guy certainly would do that.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1348 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:14 pm

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Post#1349 » by DaGawd » Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:29 pm

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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1350 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon Mar 17, 2025 11:39 pm

DaGawd wrote:this franchise sucks


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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1351 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:32 am

DaGawd wrote:this franchise sucks


Yeah.

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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1352 » by Polk377 » Tue Mar 18, 2025 1:33 am

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Do you guys have any players of note that we should keep some interest in for Rounds 2 and 3?

I think we need to get some insurance at RT. Thomas' health is always a concern. I know that Schoen has been making some OL depth signings but maybe we can snag someone to develop behind him?

Defensive line depth as well. I want us to be like Philly where we can constantly rotate defenders in and not miss a beat.


Jalen Milroe. He is the QB of the future in this draft. Not Sanders or Ward. He was impacted by Saban leaving Alabama and should have been a top 10 pick this year.


Where does Milroe get picked? No way he lasts to the 3rd round from what I've read. Maybe he lasts to the early 2nd round. There's a rumor the Jets might be interested in him.

It would be risking it to wait until the 3rd. I would take Hunter #3 and take Milroe in the top of the 2nd.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1353 » by TerrenceClarke » Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:14 pm

It’s Mel Kiper but still.

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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1354 » by ScienceOfLosing » Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:03 pm

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A QB like Shedeur with elite processing, elite timing, good feel, great ruggedness, good arm, good athleticism can EASILY overcome not being an elite rummer or having an elite arm. I would be happy if the Giants draft him. If not I would try to move up for Dart (and we do have an extra 3rd this year.j
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1356 » by Luv those Knicks » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:25 pm

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Yeah I mean can you blame them though? There careers as a GM/HC are now tied to wins. From Stafford to now Rodgers Mara has clearly forced wins on them.

Now this may be one case where losing out on a player like the Giants did with Stafford helps because he wasn't making the Giants better than the Eagles or Commanders next year (along with trading picks and that contract Stafford would have required). Rodgers wont either but the FO sees this as just buying them time. If they can win enough games and show Mara that with decent QB play Daboll's offense will look better and Schoen's roster will look better. Then they can be patient and let the young QB whoever they go with develop.

As for Giants fan most have come the assumption next year probably wont be good anyway and the GM/HC will eventually be fired and then we just need to make next season interesting and entertaining and buy time. And Winston as a bridge guy certainly would do that.


I understand that owners suck, but every GM in the league should be at least as smart as the average fan, and know that rebuilding takes a few years, and a bad season, maybe even two, should be acceptable on the road to getting better.

This isn't rocket science. It's barely more complicated than 2+2. I have no idea what's said inside private rooms when the GM meets the owner, but I would hope that conversations like "don't expect many wins" and "This guy is good for team chemistry" and "bridge QB while we draft hopefully a long-term QB" are at least part of the conversation.

Like . . . for example. Daniel Jones isn't much of a QB, but he is a two-way QB who should fit the Colt's system. He might not even start for them but if he ends up starting a bunch of games, he's a reasonable pickup for a coach who likes a 2-way QB.

Fields isn't much, but at least the Jets don't expect to win a lot of games and his ability to run should open things up a little and make the games more fun. The Jets are really badly run, but at least their new GM seems to have a strategy and know what he's doing.

A team expecting to be bad but wanting Aaron Rodgers just doesn't make sense to me. Rodgers is a HOF QB, but I don't think he makes sense for the Giants overall, or as a bridge QB, and I'm guessing most people agree, except the Giant's GM and Owner, which . . . I don't get.

Rodgers (reportedly) wants to join the Vikings, which, I think, would be a good place for him. A well set up team with a QB on the roster who hasn't thrown a single pass in a game yet. Rodgers for 1 year and JJ McCarthy maybe getting some snaps makes sense to me, if the Vikings can afford Rodgers' salary, and I'm not sure they can, but that's a pairing that makes sense at least, to my little brain.

The Giants don't make sense for either Rodgers or them.

The Steelers . . . I have no idea. I don't follow them close enough.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1357 » by mpharris36 » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:54 pm

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Yeah I mean can you blame them though? There careers as a GM/HC are now tied to wins. From Stafford to now Rodgers Mara has clearly forced wins on them.

Now this may be one case where losing out on a player like the Giants did with Stafford helps because he wasn't making the Giants better than the Eagles or Commanders next year (along with trading picks and that contract Stafford would have required). Rodgers wont either but the FO sees this as just buying them time. If they can win enough games and show Mara that with decent QB play Daboll's offense will look better and Schoen's roster will look better. Then they can be patient and let the young QB whoever they go with develop.

As for Giants fan most have come the assumption next year probably wont be good anyway and the GM/HC will eventually be fired and then we just need to make next season interesting and entertaining and buy time. And Winston as a bridge guy certainly would do that.


I understand that owners suck, but every GM in the league should be at least as smart as the average fan, and know that rebuilding takes a few years, and a bad season, maybe even two, should be acceptable on the road to getting better.

This isn't rocket science. It's barely more complicated than 2+2. I have no idea what's said inside private rooms when the GM meets the owner, but I would hope that conversations like "don't expect many wins" and "This guy is good for team chemistry" and "bridge QB while we draft hopefully a long-term QB" are at least part of the conversation.

Like . . . for example. Daniel Jones isn't much of a QB, but he is a two-way QB who should fit the Colt's system. He might not even start for them but if he ends up starting a bunch of games, he's a reasonable pickup for a coach who likes a 2-way QB.

Fields isn't much, but at least the Jets don't expect to win a lot of games and his ability to run should open things up a little and make the games more fun. The Jets are really badly run, but at least their new GM seems to have a strategy and know what he's doing.

A team expecting to be bad but wanting Aaron Rodgers just doesn't make sense to me. Rodgers is a HOF QB, but I don't think he makes sense for the Giants overall, or as a bridge QB, and I'm guessing most people agree, except the Giant's GM and Owner, which . . . I don't get.

Rodgers (reportedly) wants to join the Vikings, which, I think, would be a good place for him. A well set up team with a QB on the roster who hasn't thrown a single pass in a game yet. Rodgers for 1 year and JJ McCarthy maybe getting some snaps makes sense to me, if the Vikings can afford Rodgers' salary, and I'm not sure they can, but that's a pairing that makes sense at least, to my little brain.

The Giants don't make sense for either Rodgers or them.

The Steelers . . . I have no idea. I don't follow them close enough.



I would agree with your statement but this regime is going into year 4....they don't have time to rebuild anymore.

That is where Mara made the mistake. The team need a longer term vision and but he brought them back on the pretenses that they would win games next year.

So its pretty simple. We have an owner problem. Schoen could think a move is better for the longer term of the Giants but if its not going to help this this year and save his job why would he do it? For the next GM to take over next year after the giants go 5-12 next year?

Thats why they are waiting on Rodgers dime right now...he (even though flawed and old) is by far the best QB for next year out there right now. So they have no choice but to wait on him. Even if they go the rookie route with there 1st round pick. That rookie probably wont start for them right off the bat because they need wins.
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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1358 » by TerrenceClarke » Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:21 pm

The best way to sum up Rodgers. Dude playing games. Make up ya mind lol

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Re: OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd 

Post#1359 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:28 pm

Just sign Winston already. He's not gonna be a headache like Rodgers is and he won't be running his mouth every week on Pat McAfee.
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Post#1360 » by TerrenceClarke » Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:30 pm

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