Scoot Henderson

[clyde21]

Nice stretch for Scoot over the last 30 games

30 gp ~ 27.1 mpg
13.7 ppg ~ 3.1 rpg ~ 5.4 apg ~ 1.3 spg ~ 2.5 tov
46.3% fg ~ 41.0% 3pt (4.8 3pta) ~ 78.6% ft (3.3 fta)
+1.7 +/-

with a +3.8 On/Off for the year, 4th on Portland

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Scoot having positive On/Off and solid assist turnover ratio recently is very surprising to me. Take your laps! (I'm looking at you, Clyde)

[Braggins]

Scoot currently isn't even a full two months older yet than Brandon Miller was at the start of his rookie season.

If you compare their production by age its kind of interesting. Miller at Scoots current age had played 20 NBA games with the following stats

Brandon Miller
(20 yrs 337 days to 21 yrs 21 days)
20 gp ~ 32.0 mpg
14.8 ppg ~ 4.1 rpg ~ 2.2 apg ~ 0.7 spg ~ 0.6 bpg ~ 1.7 tov
44.6% fg ~ 40.2% 3pt (5.1 3pta) ~ 81.6% ft (1.9 fta)
-3.6 +/-

Scoot Henderson
(20 yrs 337 days to 21 yrs 21 days)
23 gp ~ 27.1 mpg
14.0 ppg ~ 3.0 rpg ~ 5.4 apg ~ 1.1 spg ~ 0.2 bpg ~ 2.6 tov
+2.5 +/-

Heres the comparison for just their sophomore seasons straight up. I'm using pace adjusted for this sample because theyre easily available and it normalizes for the 7 mpg difference for easier comparison.

Brandon Miller
2nd season (21 yrs 336 days to 22 yrs 54 days)
per70: 21.1 pts ~ 4.9 reb ~ 3.6 ast ~ 1.1 stl ~ 0.8 blk ~ 2.8 tov
47.5% 2pt ~ 35.5% 3pt (10.9 3pta) ~ 86.1% ft (2.9 fta) ~ 54.0% ts
+0.1 bpm ~ .161 FTr ~ 27.6% usg ~ 1.29 ast/tov

Scoot Henderson
2nd season (20 yrs 263 days to 21 yrs 21 days)
per70: 16.0 pts ~ 3.9 reb ~ 6.8 ast ~ 1.5 stl ~ 0.3 blk ~ 3.4 tov
48.2% 2pt ~ 36.7% 3pt (5.4 3pta) ~ 78.4 ft (3.9 fta) ~ 55.7% ts
-1.4 bpm ~ .310 FTr ~ 22.0% usg ~ 1.99 ast/tov

Not saying Scoot is necessarily going to be better because its still too early, but it should be clear that the people who were spiking the football already because Scoot struggled as a 19 year old pg are utterly unserious.

[JMAC3]

Nice stretch for Scoot over the last 30 games

30 gp ~ 27.1 mpg
13.7 ppg ~ 3.1 rpg ~ 5.4 apg ~ 1.3 spg ~ 2.5 tov
46.3% fg ~ 41.0% 3pt (4.8 3pta) ~ 78.6% ft (3.3 fta)
+1.7 +/-

If you had to redraft today who is your top 10 in order from that class?

[EvanZ]

I hope people have learned their lesson about lap taking too early. Garland was a recent example. There have been countless others. Sometimes lap takers are right. But there are so many exceptions that it just doesn’t make sense to ever do it. You have to see it play out over a few seasons. If you took laps on Garland you look like a fool now. Scoot looked terrible his rookie season but his trajectory is very positive now. I don’t know where he ends up but he’s not the embarrassing bust some here made him out to be after a few weeks of his pro career so they could score immediate points. You know who you are and we know who you are. It only hurts your rep. God bless.

[JRoy]

Still not a believer.

[JMAC3]

I hope people have learned their lesson about lap taking too early. Garland was a recent example. There have been countless others. Sometimes lap takers are right. But there are so many exceptions that it just doesn’t make sense to ever do it. You have to see it play out over a few seasons. If you took laps on Garland you look like a fool now. Scoot looked terrible his rookie season but his trajectory is very positive now. I don’t know where he ends up but he’s not the embarrassing bust some here made him out to be after a few weeks of his pro career so they could score immediate points. You know who you are and we know who you are. It only hurts your rep. God bless.

I really don't understand you lol. You hate people who victory lap but the second a guy starts to play better you are the first one to the thread. Which is by definition victory lapping...... but you try to act like you aren't victory lapping and are constantly trying to subtweet people which is very strange behavior.

At the end of the day Scoot has improved this year, but he still projects as a below average player in the NBA, maybe he is slightly above average at some point, but mainly he is far from the prospect that many people thought he would be and still a pretty big disappointment if you are using his pre-draft image to where he is now.

EPM has him 42% overall, which is below average.
56% offensively
19% defensively

Even by Darko he is well below average and has the 4th worst DPM on the Blazers, so not sure that is some massive win that you are trying to point to.

[EvanZ]

JMAC will never get it. The difference between saying a guy is a bust after 3 weeks of his pro career, and saying, he's not a bust and he's improving consistently.

If you can't see the difference between those two viewpoints, sorry, I can't help you.

[EvanZ]

Also remember this was supposedly Scoot vs Brandon Miller.

JMAC and folks called Scoot a bust and BM an immediate star. Clearly that hasn't been decided in either direction for either guy.

[Braggins]

last 40 games

40 gp (6 gs) ~ 27.5 mpg
14.0 ppg ~ 3.2 rpg ~ 5.1 apg ~ 1.2 spg ~ 0.2 bpg ~ 2.7 tov
44.5% fg (10.6 fga) ~ 39.7% 3pt (4.9 3pta) ~ 76.8% ft (3.5 fta)
+2.5 +/-

[Special_Puppy]

Scoot has been a massive pleasant surprise this year.

[JMAC3]

Also remember this was supposedly Scoot vs Brandon Miller.

JMAC and folks called Scoot a bust and BM an immediate star. Clearly that hasn't been decided in either direction for either guy.

Doing that weird subtweet thing again lol.

Miller is pretty clearly the better player right now, but if you want to live in fantasy land where Scoot as a horrible defender who comes off the bench and averages 13 ppg is better than a 6-9 good defender who is averaging 21 ppg as a starter.

[JRoy]

Still not a believer. He is trending toward average after a dumpster fire of a rookie season,

[EvanZ]

Also remember this was supposedly Scoot vs Brandon Miller.

JMAC and folks called Scoot a bust and BM an immediate star. Clearly that hasn't been decided in either direction for either guy.

Doing that weird subtweet thing again lol.

Miller is pretty clearly the better player right now, but if you want to live in fantasy land where Scoot as a horrible defender who comes off the bench and averages 13 ppg is better than a 6-9 good defender who is averaging 21 ppg as a starter.

Is a "subtweet" literally calling you out?

[JMAC3]

End of year stat update.

Scoot Henderson
12.7 ppg, 3 rpg, 5.1 apg on 49.7% efg%
53% Off EPM
11% Def EPM
35% Overall EPM

Brandon Miller
21 ppg, 4.9 rpg, 3.6 apg on 50.9% efg%
83% Off EPM
64% Def EPM
83% Overall EPM

Amen Thompson
14.ppg, 8.2rpg, 4.2 apg on 57.5% efg%
74% Off EPM
99% Def EPM
94% Overall EPM

Ausar Thompson
10.1 ppg, 5.1rpg, 2.3 apg on 54.5% EF
52% Off EPM
99% Def EPM
91% Overall EPM

The OG convo that got this thread started, "Are we sure Scoot is without a doubt the 2nd best prospect in this class?"

[tmorgan]

The twins are the most interesting players in the NBA. Though both have some offensive skills, they have massive, glaring issues beyond just being bad distance shooters. But the defense is just so ridiculous that they have their respective teams playing them in playoff games and playing well.

I can’t speak directly on Amen, but I know this Detroit?New York series would look very different without Ausar pressing Brunson.

[EvanZ]

Amen and Ausar still can't shoot so that puts a ceiling on them.