Sam hauser trade value

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Re: Sam hauser trade value 

Post#21 » by redslastlaugh » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:07 pm

Hauser only really had 2024 playoffs as a full time rotation player. He shot 38%. It’ll be interesting going forward what is the difference between his shooting in the regular season vs playoffs.

In any case, I’m a Celtics fan and I’m not trying to argue Sam’s trade value. But the dude is literally the 15th best high volume 3pt shooter in the history of the NBA, that’s valuable imo.

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Re: Sam hauser trade value 

Post#22 » by brackdan70 » Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:50 pm

If he is neutral or negative value then most of the league is. It’s a miracle any trades get done.
The term (4 years) locked in significantly under the MLE is a positive at his age, not a negative.
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Re: Sam hauser trade value 

Post#23 » by ejftw » Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:22 pm

Worth more to Boston than they would receive in a trade. I'd peg his value to be around what the Clippers got in exchange for T (shaved some salary by dumping Bones, getting a similar player with two years less/saving more money) and a pair of seconds.
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Post#24 » by hugepatsfan » Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:29 pm

I disagree that he's a system player. He's an elite shooter with great wing size who isn't a sieve defensively. If your system can't work with that then you need a new system. I think pretty much any contending team would rather have him than a pick in the 20s, provided that the contract fts into their payroll/luxury tax structure. The problem is that for a lot of contenders, they're already maxed out on salary so they'd have to send money back and then you get into whether they have a player in that salary range to send back that isn't contributing to their team in another role.

If every team in the NBA were granted a TPE to fit his salary and didn't have to pay tax on it then BOS would get a 1st rounder easily IMO. But that's not reality and when you factor that market condition in his value simply goes down since you weed out teams to drive the price up.
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Post#25 » by cl2117 » Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:49 pm

To be fair going back for the last 2 years looking at deals that have gotten done, I can see how his market value is probably 2nds and space. Looking at what Deandre Hunter got, I can see how Hauser wouldn't net a first, but that still kind of seems crazy to me.
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Post#26 » by Scoot McGroot » Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:52 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:I disagree that he's a system player. He's an elite shooter with great wing size who isn't a sieve defensively. If your system can't work with that then you need a new system. I think pretty much any contending team would rather have him than a pick in the 20s, provided that the contract fts into their payroll/luxury tax structure. The problem is that for a lot of contenders, they're already maxed out on salary so they'd have to send money back and then you get into whether they have a player in that salary range to send back that isn't contributing to their team in another role.

If every team in the NBA were granted a TPE to fit his salary and didn't have to pay tax on it then BOS would get a 1st rounder easily IMO. But that's not reality and when you factor that market condition in his value simply goes down since you weed out teams to drive the price up.


The shooting is pretty transferable. Agree with the idea if you can’t fit his shooting in your system, then you need to change the system.

The defensive ability is the question, and what seems like it might be more attributable to the Boston roster and system than Hauser in particular. He’s “not a sieve” in Boston playing in lineups with Jrue, White, Brown, Horford, Tatum, etc.

That, to me, is the question. If he goes elsewhere and isn’t playing with multiple “all-defensive team” caliber players that can help cover for him, will his true ability tahini through, and is it possibly worse than imagined at this point? A 4 year commitment could be a little scary to some in that regard, if the receiving team doesn’t have any, let alone multiple, GREAT defenders on the roster.

If my team had no cap space aspirations in the near future, I’d rate him as “useful filler in a larger deal”, or positive to the point of a 2-3 seconds, maybe a top 20 protected first if I got to move some unwanted salary? It’s uus
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Re: Sam hauser trade value 

Post#27 » by 165bows » Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:20 pm

cl2117 wrote:To be fair going back for the last 2 years looking at deals that have gotten done, I can see how his market value is probably 2nds and space. Looking at what Deandre Hunter got, I can see how Hauser wouldn't net a first, but that still kind of seems crazy to me.

Hunter also is a career league average TS guy who will make more than twice as much per year. Pretty clear for a while Hunter wasn’t a guy with much trade value at the time.
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Re: Sam hauser trade value 

Post#28 » by cl2117 » Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:06 pm

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hugepatsfan wrote:I disagree that he's a system player. He's an elite shooter with great wing size who isn't a sieve defensively. If your system can't work with that then you need a new system. I think pretty much any contending team would rather have him than a pick in the 20s, provided that the contract fts into their payroll/luxury tax structure. The problem is that for a lot of contenders, they're already maxed out on salary so they'd have to send money back and then you get into whether they have a player in that salary range to send back that isn't contributing to their team in another role.

If every team in the NBA were granted a TPE to fit his salary and didn't have to pay tax on it then BOS would get a 1st rounder easily IMO. But that's not reality and when you factor that market condition in his value simply goes down since you weed out teams to drive the price up.


The shooting is pretty transferable. Agree with the idea if you can’t fit his shooting in your system, then you need to change the system.

The defensive ability is the question, and what seems like it might be more attributable to the Boston roster and system than Hauser in particular. He’s “not a sieve” in Boston playing in lineups with Jrue, White, Brown, Horford, Tatum, etc.

That, to me, is the question. If he goes elsewhere and isn’t playing with multiple “all-defensive team” caliber players that can help cover for him, will his true ability tahini through, and is it possibly worse than imagined at this point? A 4 year commitment could be a little scary to some in that regard, if the receiving team doesn’t have any, let alone multiple, GREAT defenders on the roster.

If my team had no cap space aspirations in the near future, I’d rate him as “useful filler in a larger deal”, or positive to the point of a 2-3 seconds, maybe a top 20 protected first if I got to move some unwanted salary? It’s uus

To his credit in terms of his defense he regularly gets isolated by teams and holds his own even when he's on an island against the likes of LeBron. He's not a lockdown guy but he's definitely earned being called a 3&D wing rather than just a "sharpshooter". Fair to suggest there might be a bit of a drop off when not surrounded by top tier defenders but with how he's been able to defend 1 on 1 I think you've got to give credit where credit is due.

In my eyes the real issue with him is the lack of upside. You're definitely buying him at his peak if you were to trade for him. He's not going to become a better defender than he is now. He's not going to add any more tricks to his bag offensively. He is what he is. And he's struggled with his back a bit this year and when he hasn't been right he's been a replacement level player. This is his ceiling, he comes with a really high floor as well, but if you're hoping to hit big he's not going to be your guy (as compared to someone like Hunter who might have lower floor at times but there's much more likely to be a mid-career leap than with Hauser).

I think you're bang on with your value assessment. I really thought it'd be higher but when I tried to find comparable trades in recent years, it feels like late 1sts are few and far between and multiple 2nds of varying qualities is the new going rate for his level of talent.
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