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Post#421 » by Gant » Sat Mar 8, 2025 8:32 pm

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playa-hater wrote:I need a tape measure. Whose slide was longer...Scheierman's or Bird's?? :D


Cowens.

;t=36s


I'm not even sure that was Cowen's best slide.


It wasn't. but I couldn't find the others.

It gets extra points for being in one of the greatest games ever played, the double overtime Game 6 Finals loss to the Bucks in which both Havlicek and Kareem hit multiple amazing shots in the extra periods. I've never seen a game more gripping than that one.

Kareem, Oscar and Havlicek all played 58 minutes. Hondo hit the tieing shot to send it to the second OT. The lead changed 11 times in the second overtime. Milwaukee won the game on that crazy long skyhook from the baseline with 2 seconds left.

The Celtics came back to win it all in game 7. There's never been a better series.
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Post#422 » by Curmudgeon » Sat Mar 8, 2025 11:43 pm

I watched that game 6 in a bar in Westerly RI. Never forget it. But game 7 was payback. They fronted Kareem on defense and Cowens had a monster game on offense. It was never close.
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Post#423 » by Gant » Sun Mar 9, 2025 12:30 am

Curmudgeon wrote:I watched that game 6 in a bar in Westerly RI. Never forget it. But game 7 was payback. They fronted Kareem on defense and Cowens had a monster game on offense. It was never close.


I also watched it in a bar. The place was so packed you couldn't move. I was lucky to have a barstool right in front of the TV. With every basket from either team, the whole place roared. It was the wildest, drunkest, loudest energy I've ever seen around a game.

Just incredible. That one's burned into my memory too.
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Post#424 » by phincsfan » Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:48 pm

Barring anything crazy, looks like the #2 slot is locked up by the C's. Looking at the schedule, there looks to be 14 games that should be W's. Jazz 2x, Hornets 2x, Nets 2x, Wiz, Blazers, Kings, Spurs all should be locks. Heat 2x, Suns 2x, NY and Magic will be competitive.

During this final stretch I'd love to see what Rico has to offer in real NBA games with real minutes.

He's 2nd to last in minutes played out of 1st rounders in his class. Only two guys have zero minutes due to season ending injuries.

16 2nd rounders have more minutes played including the last one selected who has 100 more minutes and saw time in 9 more games then Rico.

He can't control that because the C's roster is loaded and knock on wood, injuries haven't......

I'd like to see Rico on the floor with PP and be the main facilitator. He can be a shooter like Strus, but what he can do better than Strus is handle the ball and pass. He isn't a one trick pony. I don't see him making mistakes which is a good thing. He's slow, but that just means he's gonna have to move his feet better and get in position faster.

I said in the offseason that the G league is no longer valuable for Walsh because he needed to be around the vets in practice and games. No more G league for Rico either. Feet to fire and see what he got these last 16 games.
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Post#425 » by shi-woo » Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:05 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:I’m not ready to give up on Baylor. But he’s off to a pretty bad start for a 1st round pick. His WS/48 is negative (-0.43) and of the 15 picks after him (#31-45) there are 10 players who’ve logged >100 min with a positive WS.

31. Jonathan Mogbo
32. Kyle Filipowski
34. Tyler Kolak
35. Johnny Furphy
38. Ajay Mitchell
39. Jaylen Wells
40. Oso Ighodaro
41. Adem Bona
44. Pelle Larsen
45. Jamal Shead

10 out of the next 15 drafted guys atleast 100 minutes & been better than Sheierman. Two guys (Tyler Smith, Bobi Klintman) have not yet played 100 minutes. And two guys (Juan Nunez, nikola Djurisic) have not come over from Europe.

Not great for Baylor, but I’m NOT ready to give up yet tho

phincsfan wrote:Pretty telling that Stevens cut ties with Anton this early. Keeping JD for 3 seasons must be because of his age. If that's the case, could Rico be on the move in the near future? Take an L, trade for a pick in the 30's and part ways with that contract?


I get this thinking, but we were never drafting guys like Wells or Ajay.

The only guy that made me mad that we passed on was Filipwski, and that is already looking like a big mistake.

It never made sense to me given he plays exactly how we want our centers to play, and we needed a project big with Al, Tillman, and Kornet all questionable going forward, and KP getting the side eye.

He was the #4 recruit coming out of HS, went to a major school where he excelled for multiple years, and was NBA ready. Dude was projected lottery all year up until the tourney and then dropped during the draft process.

The weirdest part of all was that he had local ties, playing his HS ball down the road in Wilbraham and Monson.

Made no sense to pass on him, especially for an older dude like Baylor, and i'm 100% convinced that was just Brad doing Danny a solid.

Everyone else I get, but that one just made no sense to me.
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Post#426 » by phincsfan » Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:08 pm

shi-woo wrote:
redslastlaugh wrote:I’m not ready to give up on Baylor. But he’s off to a pretty bad start for a 1st round pick. His WS/48 is negative (-0.43) and of the 15 picks after him (#31-45) there are 10 players who’ve logged >100 min with a positive WS.

31. Jonathan Mogbo
32. Kyle Filipowski
34. Tyler Kolak
35. Johnny Furphy
38. Ajay Mitchell
39. Jaylen Wells
40. Oso Ighodaro
41. Adem Bona
44. Pelle Larsen
45. Jamal Shead

10 out of the next 15 drafted guys atleast 100 minutes & been better than Sheierman. Two guys (Tyler Smith, Bobi Klintman) have not yet played 100 minutes. And two guys (Juan Nunez, nikola Djurisic) have not come over from Europe.

Not great for Baylor, but I’m NOT ready to give up yet tho

phincsfan wrote:Pretty telling that Stevens cut ties with Anton this early. Keeping JD for 3 seasons must be because of his age. If that's the case, could Rico be on the move in the near future? Take an L, trade for a pick in the 30's and part ways with that contract?


I get this thinking, but we were never drafting guys like Wells or Ajay.

The only guy that made me mad that we passed on was Filipwski, and that is already looking like a big mistake.

It never made sense to me given he plays exactly how we want our centers to play, and we needed a project big with Al, Tillman, and Kornet all questionable going forward, and KP getting the side eye.

He was the #4 recruit coming out of HS, went to a major school where he excelled for multiple years, and was NBA ready. Dude was projected lottery all year up until the tourney and then dropped during the draft process.

The weirdest part of all was that he had local ties, playing his HS ball down the road in Wilbraham and Monson.

Made no sense to pass on him, especially for an older dude like Baylor, and i'm 100% convinced that was just Brad doing Danny a solid.

Everyone else I get, but that one just made no sense to me.


The bold is the sign that hangs behind DA's desk :lol:

I just finished reading your entire post and the line that said Brad was doing DA a solid was exactly what I was thinking.

Maybe he'll take on KP if he knows he won't be able to give Kessler a contract. :dontknow:

KP, #28 and #31 for Kessler ??

Neems and Kessler may be a double big heaven for Joe
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Post#427 » by redslastlaugh » Tue Mar 11, 2025 6:23 pm

Scheierman is starting to come around. His physicality, passing, feel, etc is starting to translate. He’s up over 100 mins for the season and is 12 assists to 1 turnover…. And he won me over when he put his body on the line to take that gut wrenching charge from 260lb Geurschon Yabusele…

I’m buying Baylor Scheierman stock right now, if anyone wants to sell me any… LETS GO
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Post#428 » by Parliament10 » Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:39 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Scheierman is starting to come around. His physicality, passing, feel, etc is starting to translate. He’s up over 100 mins for the season and is 12 assists to 1 turnover…. And he won me over when he put his body on the line to take that gut wrenching charge from 260lb Geurschon Yabusele…

I’m buying Baylor Scheierman stock right now, if anyone wants to sell me any… LETS GO

I'll buy some of that action.
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Post#429 » by Half-Full » Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:53 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:Scheierman is starting to come around. His physicality, passing, feel, etc is starting to translate. He’s up over 100 mins for the season and is 12 assists to 1 turnover…. And he won me over when he put his body on the line to take that gut wrenching charge from 260lb Geurschon Yabusele…

I’m buying Baylor Scheierman stock right now, if anyone wants to sell me any… LETS GO


Not sure if I'm ready to buy stock, but Scheierman's play of late has certainly been encouraging. Getting this playing time, and showing well, is going to have a positive effect on his confidence, and we are seeing that. He does not look out of place, and that bodes well.
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Post#430 » by celtxman » Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:03 pm

I've certainly been impatient with Scheierman. It like dude you played 5 years of college ball, do SOMETHING. You were a first round pick that was supposed to have a higher floor if not a higher ceiling - someone who could get minutes in the NBA . But then a similar experienced player in Pritchard didn't show much as a rookie either,
I do think this late season burst is important in the long haul. It is unlikely the Celtics will be anything other than the 2nd seed even with 18 games left. It's time to expand his minutes and see if he belongs.
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Post#431 » by Dogen » Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:17 pm

Gant wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:I watched that game 6 in a bar in Westerly RI. Never forget it. But game 7 was payback. They fronted Kareem on defense and Cowens had a monster game on offense. It was never close.


I also watched it in a bar. The place was so packed you couldn't move. I was lucky to have a barstool right in front of the TV. With every basket from either team, the whole place roared. It was the wildest, drunkest, loudest energy I've ever seen around a game.

Just incredible. That one's burned into my memory too.


We got ourselves a couple of true OG's here, boys and girls. Curm and Gant hanging out in bars in 1974.

And I thought I was an old curmudgeon.... :curse:
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Post#432 » by Dogen » Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:21 pm

celtxman wrote:I've certainly been impatient with Scheierman. It like dude you played 5 years of college ball, do SOMETHING. You were a first round pick that was supposed to have a higher floor if not a higher ceiling - someone who could get minutes in the NBA . But then a similar experienced player in Pritchard didn't show much as a rookie either,
I do think this late season burst is important in the long haul. It is unlikely the Celtics will be anything other than the 2nd seed even with 18 games left. It's time to expand his minutes and see if he belongs.


If Baylor was on, say, the Wizards or Jazz, he'd prolly get more minutes. Celtics are tough to break into. Joe likes his rotation and really only improvises in select games.

2nd seed is pretty much locked up now, though, so I expect more bench minutes while the regulars start. It won't be as much as we might think, though. It's important for the starters to stay in the flow and keep the chemistry strong for the playoffs.
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Post#433 » by return2glory » Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:35 pm

Baylor would be averaging about 20 minutes a game for all NBA teams except for the Knicks and Celtics. Coach Tom and Joe Thibodeau keep their rotations short.
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Post#434 » by cl2117 » Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:05 am

His defense is still atrocious but there does seem to be some slight improvements on that end. He's a little less jumpy and a little less reach-ey but still really struggles to stay square to his man. Get him on whatever training regimen Hauser was on and hopefully we can see some leaps and bounds in that regard.

Offensively I'm really encouraged by his ability to see the floor and handle the ball. Even if he isn't an asbolutely lights out shooter if he can be a facilitator out there from the wing position he'll be a really strong complimentary piece (and all the better if he is a sharpshooter as well). Would also mean he's not as duplicative with Hauser. Sam is 3&D, more the latter than the former but he's definitely earned the "D" moniker. Baylor can be ball-handling/play making wing, so it wouldn't necessarily be an either/or proposition.

Especially if Jrue ends up as a cap casualty, having a playmaking wing on the bench would be a really interesting solution to our potential guard depth issues. We could run White/Pritchard as the primary ball-handlers but then have wings like the Jays and Baylor also take on some of that respinsibility so we wouldn't necessarily need to find a like for like replacement for Jrue.

It's all moot if he can't play NBA level defense though and he's a ways away from that right now. At 24 the clock is ticking but there's definitely still hope he can get there.
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Post#435 » by celtxman » Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:24 am

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celtxman wrote:I've certainly been impatient with Scheierman. It like dude you played 5 years of college ball, do SOMETHING. You were a first round pick that was supposed to have a higher floor if not a higher ceiling - someone who could get minutes in the NBA . But then a similar experienced player in Pritchard didn't show much as a rookie either,
I do think this late season burst is important in the long haul. It is unlikely the Celtics will be anything other than the 2nd seed even with 18 games left. It's time to expand his minutes and see if he belongs.


If Baylor was on, say, the Wizards or Jazz, he'd prolly get more minutes. Celtics are tough to break into. Joe likes his rotation and really only improvises in select games.

2nd seed is pretty much locked up now, though, so I expect more bench minutes while the regulars start. It won't be as much as we might think, though. It's important for the starters to stay in the flow and keep the chemistry strong for the playoffs.
Scheierman' s big game tonight and winning this game bodes well for his minutes. This team really has nothing to gain or lose in seeding, even against the Western Conference. The question is the formula on how many games the Celtics sit out starters to create minutes
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Post#437 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:56 am

First Celtics rookie ever to score 20+ in less than 20 mins. Not too shabby.
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Post#438 » by redslastlaugh » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:02 am

Before tonight, Scheierman FG% 27% and 3PT% 20% for the season.
After tonight, Scheierman season percentages have increased to 38 FG% and 34 3PT%
So … progress!!!
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Post#439 » by phincsfan » Wed Mar 19, 2025 11:48 am

cl2117 wrote:His defense is still atrocious but there does seem to be some slight improvements on that end. He's a little less jumpy and a little less reach-ey but still really struggles to stay square to his man. Get him on whatever training regimen Hauser was on and hopefully we can see some leaps and bounds in that regard.

Offensively I'm really encouraged by his ability to see the floor and handle the ball. Even if he isn't an asbolutely lights out shooter if he can be a facilitator out there from the wing position he'll be a really strong complimentary piece (and all the better if he is a sharpshooter as well). Would also mean he's not as duplicative with Hauser. Sam is 3&D, more the latter than the former but he's definitely earned the "D" moniker. Baylor can be ball-handling/play making wing, so it wouldn't necessarily be an either/or proposition.

Especially if Jrue ends up as a cap casualty, having a playmaking wing on the bench would be a really interesting solution to our potential guard depth issues. We could run White/Pritchard as the primary ball-handlers but then have wings like the Jays and Baylor also take on some of that respinsibility so we wouldn't necessarily need to find a like for like replacement for Jrue.

It's all moot if he can't play NBA level defense though and he's a ways away from that right now. At 24 the clock is ticking but there's definitely still hope he can get there.


His D wasn't terrible last night. The staff is doing a good job working on his footwork and positioning. You can tell because he looks to take a charge in many of the games he plays in.

Is he slow? Hell yes, but footwork and positioning play a huge part in becoming a good defender.

Rico is winning me back over.
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