Welcome to Boston, Kristaps Porzingis!

Regular season basketball is completely different than the playoff basketball. I think KP’s body and style are not suitable for the playoffs. He’s fool’s gold in a sense. We need to move him if we can.

[EverGreen] · Post #1093 » by **[EverGreen]** » Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:38 am

I'm interested what the sentiment is around trading/shedding KP given the FO recent comments.

They seem to not be willing to attach an asset and believe he has +ve value. I wonder what the collective Realgm mind thinks about a pure salary dump. Does the FO consider a trade for a top 55 protected 2nd if someone comes knocking?

Celts17Pride · Post #1094 » by **Celts17Pride** » Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:44 pm

[EverGreen] wrote:I'm interested what the sentiment is around trading/shedding KP given the FO recent comments.

They seem to not be willing to attach an asset and believe he has +ve value. I wonder what the collective Realgm mind thinks about a pure salary dump. Does the FO consider a trade for a top 55 protected 2nd if someone comes knocking?

I think the Celtics will not move Porzingis this off-season unless they get a really good deal. Celtics won't be attaching draft compensation to move Porzingis. If the Celtics don't get a good deal then they will bring Porzingis back next year and re-look at things at the mid-season trade deadline. Celtics may end up keeping KP and extending him at a much cheaper number after the season. A lot of "ifs" with KP.

celtxman · Post #1095 » by **celtxman** » Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:24 pm

[EverGreen] wrote:I'm interested what the sentiment is around trading/shedding KP given the FO recent comments.

They seem to not be willing to attach an asset and believe he has +ve value. I wonder what the collective Realgm mind thinks about a pure salary dump. Does the FO consider a trade for a top 55 protected 2nd if someone comes knocking?

So now you have that virtually useless pick and you are under the 2nd apron because you're presumably doing the trade get under. You can't (and I'm sure won't fo that unless another talented center drops out of the sky. Let's say the Tatum injury didn't happen. We may be winning the Finals right now IF KP didn't have this bizarre illness. Porzingis is a risk, very high reward player. The only healthy team we played in the playoffs was Dallas. KPs dominant 1st game set the tone for those Finals. This year they win against the Knicks in the playoffs. Less than a month before that series KP scored 34 against the Knicks and they had NO answers.
I am not saying they are not trading him. I'm saying they might be better to trade him until the trade deadline. Then they may get much more. I believe Stevens will engineer trades to get back needed talent.

hugepatsfan · Post #1096 » by **hugepatsfan** » Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:59 pm

The only team that can send BOS a top 55 protected 2nd and just take Porzingis for free is BRK. They'd never offer that, but if they did, Stevens would take it in a second. It's simply too easy a solution to the payroll woes not to jump at. Instantly under the 2nd apron, which is the really critical threshold because financials aside they CANNOT justify the basketball penalties that come with us being over the 2nd apron this year after Tatum's injury. You cannot justify the future penalties with our picks and trade flexibility as a result for staying over the 2nd apron in a year Tatum isn't playing. It'd be pure idiocy from Stevens and he's no idiot.

return2glory · Post #1097 » by **return2glory** » Sat Jun 14, 2025 1:39 am

I think KP will be great for Boston this year with Tatum out. Without Tatum, we won't have a good chance at a playoff run, so we won't have to reply on KP in the playoffs.

He is an expiring contract. Maybe he gets moved at the deadline, but I don't want to trade him with draft picks attached. Let the contract expire. But I'm not sure how Brad can have all 3 of Kornet, Al and KP back.

celtxman · Post #1098 » by **celtxman** » Sat Jun 14, 2025 11:49 am

return2glory wrote:I think KP will be great for Boston this year with Tatum out. Without Tatum, we won't have a good chance at a playoff run, so we won't have to reply on KP in the playoffs.

He is an expiring contract. Maybe he gets moved at the deadline, but I don't want trade with with draft picks attached. Let the contract expire. But I'm not sure how Brad can have all 3 of Kornet, Al and KP back.

People are angry with KP. He missed most of last year's playoffs. He played to the crowd with blood on his face. Then he wasn't able to play and simply put we lost to the Knicks because we essentially didn't have him. Those two crushing defeats in the first two games end up being two 6-7 point wins. The Knicks, as well as other teams have had no answers for KP since he became a Celtic. The Celtics can't afford to give him away and say good riddance because we're mad at him.
I am agreeing that you probably won't be able to trade Jrue or KP without taking some salary.
I can see KP being traded. They may have the Brogdon, Timelord mentality that the best ability is availability. But I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up resigning with the Celtics on a team friendly contract
A possible KP trade strategy could be getting back a good under the radar player, and losing a chunk of salary. Then target a player with the MLE later in the season.

Post #1099 » by **Shak_Celts** » Sat Jun 14, 2025 3:23 pm

KP is good people, I like him a lot! He’s funny and an excellent player. We simply need more (health).

He tried, can’t fault him, but Joe should have played someone else, it could not have been worse. One little stretch by another big (Queta), could have been the difference. Not greatness from Queta, simply providing something, if only a rebound here or there, maybe we don’t collapse fully in the first two.

It wasn’t as simple as KP not contributing, he was hurting us! We needed 1 little stop in momentum in those games, but each time it felt like doom when KP came in.

Yes, everybody was a let down in that series, but we had them at every turn until we forced KP. It just threw us for a loop. It was like a momentum shift nearly every time he went out there.

We could have overcome KP, if BRIDGES and Brunson weren’t carving their man, but we shouldn’t have had to.

I won’t be upset if we retain KP. I’ll be upset if Joe doesn’t look to others when it’s clear KP can’t be helpful. This may be the season KP is healthy and I’ll be happy, but Joe needs to trust others more!

S/N: Joe was stingy with the rotation when we won, but he still tossed X and Brissy out there. He didn’t force 7 guys to try and do it all, EVERY TIME. I felt he had a better grasp on momentum changers when we won. He had more faith in trying a guy to break up runs or to jump start them. Playing X in game 3 was excellent, he didn’t try that once this season. Maybe Queta, Baylor, or Craig could have been the little jolt we needed. Those first two games were missing that little, but huge to winning, thing.

Celts17Pride · Post #1100 » by **Celts17Pride** » Sat Jun 14, 2025 4:13 pm

There is absolutely zero reason to trade Porzingis this off-season unless the Celtics get a great deal. If they don't get that deal, then Porzingis can rehab his reputation with the Celtics during a soft rebuild year and the Celtics can re-look at things at the mid-season trade deadline. Makes no sense to sell low.