2025 NBA Draft Prospects

[Chi town]

Queen, Maluach, Denim or Aswell

I’m good with any of em in our range

Demin has become much maligned and for good reason, but as we continue to slide in the draft he’s the type of more unique prospect I will be interested in. Could fiddle around with some different things with guys like Ball, Giddey and Demin who are all wizards with passing the ball.

I’m also getting more intrigued by Will Riley as our draft position slips and he starts showing way more game than he had the first half of his freshman year.

I’d take Riley over Demin all day. Riley will suck next year too. Not as ready as Buz has been. He’s even weaker and not as long. But that IQ and shot will translate.

I want a high upside guy that will take some time so we suck next year and get our cornerstone player.

[sco]

Queen reminds me a lot of Jalen Smith actually, probably with a higher ceiling...much higher?

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That’s funny because I watched some highlights of him today and to be honest he looked like Vuc to me. I’m sure I’m wrong and that’s based on small sample size,but just based on the post moves, occasional 3s, spot up shooting, etc. that’s the vibe I got.

Yeah. He does look very skilled offensively. He looks undersized at the C position, and too heavy and slow to play the PF position.

[Jvaughn]

Queen reminds me a lot of Jalen Smith actually, probably with a higher ceiling...much higher?

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That’s funny because I watched some highlights of him today and to be honest he looked like Vuc to me. I’m sure I’m wrong and that’s based on small sample size,but just based on the post moves, occasional 3s, spot up shooting, etc. that’s the vibe I got.

Yeah. He does look very skilled offensively. He looks undersized at the C position, and too heavy and slow to play the PF position.

Yeah, defensively Queen puts us in the same defensive position we have with Vuc where the opposition is going to continue to attack him with PnR and tear us up in that drop zone. While Collins is not a longterm piece, having him rotating on defense instead of Vuc has been night and day. We haven't had a C who isn't a sieve defensively on PnR since Noah.

[kodo]

Getting Vuc 2.0 with the 10th pick in the draft would be an amazing, best case scenario.
10th picks: Johnny Davis, Zaire Williams, our own Jalen Smith, Cam Reddish, Mikal Bridges, Zach Collins, Thon Maker, Justise Winslow, Elfrid Payton, etc.. Vuc has made the all-star team and is a starter quality player, which is better than everyone else on this list.

Which is why the long-term roadmap the org has us on is so depressing. An entire year to get someone whose ceiling *might* be as good as a player already on the team.

[Jcool0]

Still crazy that this was the roster for Montverde Academy who unsurprisingly went 34-0:

Asa Newell

Derik Queen

Liam McNeeley

Cooper Flagg

Robert Wright III - the one you might not know of. Plays for Baylor has 19 starts averages 11.3 ppg and 4.3 assists.

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[Dan Z]

So your examples are the GOAT drafted in 1984 & Kenyon Martin a 1x All Star who had a career average of 12.3/6.8?

Yes.

It was anecdotal and they’re examples. I think drafting people lower because they are over 20 is dumb.

If Rasheer Fleming is better than the people ahead of him, draft Rasheer Fleming.

Dalton Knecht was a top 10 talent who went 17th because of his age. You dont have to like it. But its how things are.

A better example is Desmond Bane who went #30 and was 22 his rookie season. I agree with you that age will always factor in when a team drafts a player, but I think that sometimes they overlook a player who has the skills to be a solid to good NBA player.

I'm not saying Fleming will be that player, I have no idea, but when I looked him up he seemed like an interesting prospect. If he can't play the 3 that's okay...the Bulls can use a PF too.

Maybe the Bulls try to trade down with a team like the Nets? Say #11 for #18 and 26? I'd probably just stay at #11 and take the BPA, but it's an idea I thought I'd mention.

[ThisGuyFawkes]

Yes.

It was anecdotal and they’re examples. I think drafting people lower because they are over 20 is dumb.

If Rasheer Fleming is better than the people ahead of him, draft Rasheer Fleming.

Dalton Knecht was a top 10 talent who went 17th because of his age. You dont have to like it. But its how things are.

A better example is Desmond Bane who went #30 and was 22 his rookie season. I agree with you that age will always factor in when a team drafts a player, but I think that sometimes they overlook a player who has the skills to be a solid to good NBA player.

I'm not saying Fleming will be that player, I have no idea, but when I looked him up he seemed like an interesting prospect. If he can't play the 3 that's okay...the Bulls can use a PF too.

Maybe the Bulls try to trade down with a team like the Nets? Say #11 for #18 and 26? I'd probably just stay at #11 and take the BPA, but it's an idea I thought I'd mention.

I think Taj Gibson is one of the better examples of an older college player who went on to have a solid NBA career.

[Jcool0]

Yes.

It was anecdotal and they’re examples. I think drafting people lower because they are over 20 is dumb.

If Rasheer Fleming is better than the people ahead of him, draft Rasheer Fleming.

Dalton Knecht was a top 10 talent who went 17th because of his age. You dont have to like it. But its how things are.

A better example is Desmond Bane who went #30 and was 22 his rookie season. I agree with you that age will always factor in when a team drafts a player, but I think that sometimes they overlook a player who has the skills to be a solid to good NBA player.

I'm not saying Fleming will be that player, I have no idea, but when I looked him up he seemed like an interesting prospect. If he can't play the 3 that's okay...the Bulls can use a PF too.

Maybe the Bulls try to trade down with a team like the Nets? Say #11 for #18 and 26? I'd probably just stay at #11 and take the BPA, but it's an idea I thought I'd mention.

Bane was 6’6” tall but only has a 6’4.25” wingspan that more then age is why he fell to 30th

[Dan Z]

Dalton Knecht was a top 10 talent who went 17th because of his age. You dont have to like it. But its how things are.

A better example is Desmond Bane who went #30 and was 22 his rookie season. I agree with you that age will always factor in when a team drafts a player, but I think that sometimes they overlook a player who has the skills to be a solid to good NBA player.

I'm not saying Fleming will be that player, I have no idea, but when I looked him up he seemed like an interesting prospect. If he can't play the 3 that's okay...the Bulls can use a PF too.

Maybe the Bulls try to trade down with a team like the Nets? Say #11 for #18 and 26? I'd probably just stay at #11 and take the BPA, but it's an idea I thought I'd mention.

Bane was 6’6” tall but only has a 6’4.25” wingspan that more then age is why he fell to 30th

He was overlooked and should've been drafted higher. That's my point...be it age...wingspan or whatever.

Rasheer Fleming is 20 years old and will be 21 during his rookie season. That's not old, but if teams don't want to draft him for other reasons I get it (and I'm not saying he'll be great...just that he's an interesting prospect).

[Jcool0]

A better example is Desmond Bane who went #30 and was 22 his rookie season. I agree with you that age will always factor in when a team drafts a player, but I think that sometimes they overlook a player who has the skills to be a solid to good NBA player.

I'm not saying Fleming will be that player, I have no idea, but when I looked him up he seemed like an interesting prospect. If he can't play the 3 that's okay...the Bulls can use a PF too.

Maybe the Bulls try to trade down with a team like the Nets? Say #11 for #18 and 26? I'd probably just stay at #11 and take the BPA, but it's an idea I thought I'd mention.

Bane was 6’6” tall but only has a 6’4.25” wingspan that more then age is why he fell to 30th

He was overlooked and should've been drafted higher. That's my point...be it age...wingspan or whatever.

Rasheer Fleming is 20 years old and will be 21 during his rookie season. That's not old, but if teams don't want to draft him for other reasons I get it (and I'm not saying he'll be great...just that he's an interesting prospect).

The only point i was making was he wasn't taken 30th because he was 21 when drafted. He had some physical limitations that might lower his ceiling as a player. It turns out not to be a problem for him in the NBA. Just like Jimmy Butler was able to work hard to overcome his limitations. No one age is completely predictive of future success or failure. But If you aren't coming out as a freshman in college that is going to hurt where you are drafted whether that is fair or not. Its just the reality. Fleming could be great, end up a role player or out of the league in 5 years. No one knows. But the question was why isn't he a higher prospect.

[Dan Z]

Bane was 6’6” tall but only has a 6’4.25” wingspan that more then age is why he fell to 30th

He was overlooked and should've been drafted higher. That's my point...be it age...wingspan or whatever.

Rasheer Fleming is 20 years old and will be 21 during his rookie season. That's not old, but if teams don't want to draft him for other reasons I get it (and I'm not saying he'll be great...just that he's an interesting prospect).

The only point i was making was he wasn't taken 30th because he was 21 when drafted. He had some physical limitations that might lower his ceiling as a player. It turns out not to be a problem for him in the NBA. Just like Jimmy Butler was able to work hard to overcome his limitations. No one age is completely predictive of future success or failure. But If you aren't coming out as a freshman in college that is going to hurt where you are drafted whether that is fair or not. Its just the reality. Fleming could be great, end up a role player or out of the league in 5 years. No one knows. But the question was why isn't he a higher prospect.

That makes sense and I agree with you.

I'm not sure who the Bulls should draft at #11, but I bet someone good will be available. The difficult thing is finding him.

[Chi town]

Interesting takes by Sam Vecenie.

https://www.youtube.com/live/mbm82Pr3xts?si=Z476ALgyYlxprNKe

[Dan Z]

Interesting takes by Sam Vecenie.

https://www.youtube.com/live/mbm82Pr3xts?si=Z476ALgyYlxprNKe

I'm not sure why they have the Bulls pick at #3, but interesting...VJ Edgecombe. If they got him do they trade Coby? Or keep both?

[Chi town]

Interesting takes by Sam Vecenie.

https://www.youtube.com/live/mbm82Pr3xts?si=Z476ALgyYlxprNKe

I'm not sure why they have the Bulls pick at #3, but interesting...VJ Edgecombe. If they got him do they trade Coby? Or keep both?

They ran a lottery sim and Bulls moved up to 3.

They’d keep Coby IMO

[Dan Z]

Interesting takes by Sam Vecenie.

https://www.youtube.com/live/mbm82Pr3xts?si=Z476ALgyYlxprNKe

I'm not sure why they have the Bulls pick at #3, but interesting...VJ Edgecombe. If they got him do they trade Coby? Or keep both?

They ran a lottery sim and Bulls moved up to 3.

They’d keep Coby IMO

Then they'd have to do something with their guards. Maybe they trade Ayo? Or see if Lonzo has any value?

[ThisGuyFawkes]

I'm not sure why they have the Bulls pick at #3, but interesting...VJ Edgecombe. If they got him do they trade Coby? Or keep both?

They ran a lottery sim and Bulls moved up to 3.

They’d keep Coby IMO

Then they'd have to do something with their guards. Maybe they trade Ayo? Or see if Lonzo has any value?

Edgecombe would be my ideal scenario (outside of Flagg). Earlier, when it looked like we weren't going to win another game, I was hoping for a Edgecombe/Ayo pairing for our future backcourt. Obviously Coby has played well lately, and both Coby/Ayo are on bargain deals. We can pretty much kiss VJ goodbye, but a VJ/Coby/Ayo backcourt trio would be tantalizing.

VJ / Ayo
Coby / Ayo
Giddey / Lonzo
Matas / Smith
Any Human Being over 7' / Smith

[2weekswithpay]

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Solid game but overall the same as usual from Tre. Great shotmaking and excellent movement off screens but he can't separate from defenders and is a nonfactor on defense. Had a really bad shot toward the end and made things worse by fouling on the break giving Xavier a 3pt play.

[Rose2Boozer]

Noa Essengue vs. Will Riley

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[Muzbar]

Interesting takes by Sam Vecenie.

https://www.youtube.com/live/mbm82Pr3xts?si=Z476ALgyYlxprNKe

I'm not sure why they have the Bulls pick at #3, but interesting...VJ Edgecombe. If they got him do they trade Coby? Or keep both?

I'd hope they'd trade Coby, maybe for another pick and grab a bigman?