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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#1541 » by Dan Z » Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:37 am

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Chi town wrote:Interesting takes by Sam Vecenie.

https://www.youtube.com/live/mbm82Pr3xts?si=Z476ALgyYlxprNKe


I'm not sure why they have the Bulls pick at #3, but interesting...VJ Edgecombe. If they got him do they trade Coby? Or keep both?

I'd hope they'd trade Coby, maybe for another pick and grab a bigman?


I know people have talked about Orlando. What about the 15th pick and contract filler? Actually I'd want a little more, but I'm not sure what that would be.

I have mixed thoughts on trading Coby. I like him, but not sure that I'd want to pay him his next contract.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#1542 » by 2weekswithpay » Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:26 am

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Post#1543 » by Guru » Thu Mar 20, 2025 2:00 pm

https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

When I see these mocks with us at 9-10-11 I dont' see much difference to the player I'd want at 15
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Post#1544 » by TheSuzerain » Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:23 pm

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That’s funny because I watched some highlights of him today and to be honest he looked like Vuc to me. I’m sure I’m wrong and that’s based on small sample size,but just based on the post moves, occasional 3s, spot up shooting, etc. that’s the vibe I got.

Yeah. He does look very skilled offensively. He looks undersized at the C position, and too heavy and slow to play the PF position.


Yeah, defensively Queen puts us in the same defensive position we have with Vuc where the opposition is going to continue to attack him with PnR and tear us up in that drop zone. While Collins is not a longterm piece, having him rotating on defense instead of Vuc has been night and day. We haven't had a C who isn't a sieve defensively on PnR since Noah.

Queen has way too much tape of him initiating from the 3 point line to get the Vuc label.

And we in fact had a top 5 defense with Vuc at the 5. The key is ball pressure

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Post#1545 » by Chi town » Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:25 pm

Guru wrote:https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

When I see these mocks with us at 9-10-11 I dont' see much difference to the player I'd want at 15


Top 7 draft with a much bigger boom bust profile from 8-20.


Good News is if you look at the top 3 best players for each team across the league there are lots of players picked outside the top 10.

We need another Buz type pick. Hopefully a Jalen Williams level player to go with what we have because you know AK will be keeping Coby and Giddey.
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Post#1546 » by sco » Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:26 pm

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sco wrote:Yeah. He does look very skilled offensively. He looks undersized at the C position, and too heavy and slow to play the PF position.


Yeah, defensively Queen puts us in the same defensive position we have with Vuc where the opposition is going to continue to attack him with PnR and tear us up in that drop zone. While Collins is not a longterm piece, having him rotating on defense instead of Vuc has been night and day. We haven't had a C who isn't a sieve defensively on PnR since Noah.

Queen has way too much tape of him initiating from the 3 point line to get the Vuc label.

And we in fact had a top 5 defense with Vuc at the 5. The key is ball pressure

Giddey
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Queen

is a coherent lineup build.

I think you're right, but the prospect of signing up for 5 years of another terrible defensive C is horrible.
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Post#1547 » by Guru » Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:28 pm

The reality is that I am going to get talked into whoever we draft pretty easily so I should just look at the positive side.
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Post#1548 » by TheSuzerain » Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:32 pm

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Yeah, defensively Queen puts us in the same defensive position we have with Vuc where the opposition is going to continue to attack him with PnR and tear us up in that drop zone. While Collins is not a longterm piece, having him rotating on defense instead of Vuc has been night and day. We haven't had a C who isn't a sieve defensively on PnR since Noah.

Queen has way too much tape of him initiating from the 3 point line to get the Vuc label.

And we in fact had a top 5 defense with Vuc at the 5. The key is ball pressure

Giddey
Ball Pressuring athletic Guard
Ball Pressuring athletic Guard/Wing
Matas
Queen

is a coherent lineup build.

I think you're right, but the prospect of signing up for 5 years of another terrible defensive C is horrible.

Maryland is 6th in the nation defensively. Queen needs to lean down a bit to gain stamina, but I don't think he's a lost cause on defense. Supposedly has wingspan 7+. Great steals production for a center/big.

People underrate how much the rim-running defensive centers can put a hard ceiling on offense. Signing up for 5 years of a very limited offensive C is also horrible.
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Post#1549 » by sco » Thu Mar 20, 2025 5:46 pm

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TheSuzerain wrote:Queen has way too much tape of him initiating from the 3 point line to get the Vuc label.

And we in fact had a top 5 defense with Vuc at the 5. The key is ball pressure

Giddey
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Ball Pressuring athletic Guard/Wing
Matas
Queen

is a coherent lineup build.

I think you're right, but the prospect of signing up for 5 years of another terrible defensive C is horrible.

Maryland is 6th in the nation defensively. Queen needs to lean down a bit to gain stamina, but I don't think he's a lost cause on defense. Supposedly has wingspan 7+. Great steals production for a center/big.

People underrate how much the rim-running defensive centers can put a hard ceiling on offense. Signing up for 5 years of a very limited offensive C is also horrible.

It is easy to get wrapped up in terminology, but I think our team would be better just playing Collins/Smith than bringing Queen into the mix. Everything I've read is negative about his defense. I can live with bad defense at any other position, but it is very important at C. It's not just that he's a bit slow, but he's short and doesn't have hops.

That said, I can easily see AK seeing his next Joker imitator in Queen, and trading up to get him.
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Post#1550 » by Jcool0 » Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:30 pm

sco wrote:
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Jvaughn wrote:
Yeah, defensively Queen puts us in the same defensive position we have with Vuc where the opposition is going to continue to attack him with PnR and tear us up in that drop zone. While Collins is not a longterm piece, having him rotating on defense instead of Vuc has been night and day. We haven't had a C who isn't a sieve defensively on PnR since Noah.

Queen has way too much tape of him initiating from the 3 point line to get the Vuc label.

And we in fact had a top 5 defense with Vuc at the 5. The key is ball pressure

Giddey
Ball Pressuring athletic Guard
Ball Pressuring athletic Guard/Wing
Matas
Queen

is a coherent lineup build.

I think you're right, but the prospect of signing up for 5 years of another terrible defensive C is horrible.


Like Vuc he plays below the rim. Unlike Vuc he doesn't take 3s.
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Post#1551 » by LateNight » Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:20 pm

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TheSuzerain wrote:Queen has way too much tape of him initiating from the 3 point line to get the Vuc label.

And we in fact had a top 5 defense with Vuc at the 5. The key is ball pressure

Giddey
Ball Pressuring athletic Guard
Ball Pressuring athletic Guard/Wing
Matas
Queen

is a coherent lineup build.

I think you're right, but the prospect of signing up for 5 years of another terrible defensive C is horrible.


Like Vuc he plays below the rim. Unlike Vuc he doesn't take 3s.


So - worse Vuc is our analysis here?
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Post#1552 » by Jcool0 » Thu Mar 20, 2025 8:20 pm

Good break down of Queen

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Post#1555 » by Jo Jo English » Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:56 am

I know it's the way the cookie crumbles, but it is really disappointing we don't get to see Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey on this stage. Would have been fun.
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Post#1558 » by TheSuzerain » Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:18 am

Wonder what he's going to do. He can go back to school one year.

Might be first round at this point though.
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