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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#781 » by The Consiglieri » Thu Mar 20, 2025 10:50 pm

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willbcocks wrote:Having great hands is about confidence, anticipation, engagement, and coordination. The only one of those things you can't improve with more practice is coordination, and Sarr's other skills show that's probably not his problem. Once he learns the game more and learns the situations in the pick and roll where he'll get the ball, he'll catch better. His picks are already a lot better.

I've said it since summer league, but the guys ability to shrug off criticism, stay confident and just keep putting in the work is a huge reason for optimism.

Sarr became an instant meme following his 0-15 SL game. Now, if those same folks are paying attention, they see that he’s a uniquely skilled big with a ton of potential.

Like you said, Sarr appeared to take the SL game lampooning in stride.


I just don't understand why anyone gave a ----. It's summer league, Vegas etc, seriously, who gives a ----. I get that it's the first time you see these rookies playing, and with Johnny Davis face planting immediately 2 years earlier, it felt like more of the same. But it's 5 freaking games, in July, w/teams playing with various degrees of committment and seriousness, reminds me of international friendlies in soccer.

To take that face planet, and let that face plant matter in any sense in November, December, January too you just always struck me as insane. The guy had hundreds of practices after that through December, dozens of games before New Years, now more than 50, real games, in the rear view mirror, and he's basically been a 37-38% 3 point shooting high volume shooter since Thanksgiving. That July should have been forgotten by December, if not November, the fact that it lingered for anyone always struck me as insane.

Maybe it's just I'm obssessive and watch an absolute ton of sports, focused about 75-80% of my attention in sports on international and club soccer, and pro football, and then the remaining 20-25% on NBA, NHL, MLB, College Football, College Basketball, plus I play and spend an absolute ---- ton of time analyzing prospects and professionals in dynasty football, so maybe I'm just more used to relevance of breakout age, sample size, athletic metrics, tools and whats relevant and what isn't etc, but sometimes it just feels like so granular in detail, and so fixated on one thing here or there that's frustrating (a craptacular summer league, a totally inept opening 15 games to his career, god awful 3 point shooting in that opening 15 games, the truly horrific 2 pt and lay up #'s) that people just miss whats right in front of him. The athleticism, the mentality, the 3 point piece the past 40ish games, the transition play (kind of point forward skills).....there is clearly something here, and it's really odd how people get totally fixated on this negative or that, when what he does have, is pretty damn rare (size and athleticism to go with 3 point skills, and open transition pace), and what he doesn't, is either fixable with practice and offseason weight training, or at least something that can be rendered adequate or average, rather than the gross liabilities that some of these pieces look like now. I'd be far more worried if he was a sluggish, tree trunk without any range on his jumper, no feel, and a weak or ignorant kind of mentality. Instead his mental make up appears good, he's legit athletic, he's got some clear skills he can scout on, and if he's a worker, he can bring up a lot of the lagging pieces of his game AND improve what he's already quite good at.

But I'm one of the hopeful ones. Its just from my perspective, in a draft this bereft of talent, landing the next Arvis Hayes, a euro trash type like Pech or Vesely, a meh jack of all , master of none type like Jeffries or the crappier version of Porter, a total nothing like Troy Brown, and Davis, a "----, he's just never gonna become anything" like Hachimura? Hes none of those versions of disappointing (I'll grant Porter was a legit player and doesn't entirely fit here, but he was also kind of disappointing from a similar draft people felt was bereft of any special talent at the time). to me, Sarr, right now, is an athletic big who can and will help us down the line with that atheleticism, and with the 3 hitting like it is, a genuine weapon. We got something (not even to mention Bub or George who clearly are hits in the way that Singleton, Vesley, Seraphin etc during the previous build clearly were not, even Booker, for as solid he was, didn't ever have much of a ceiling, all 3 of these guys, including the guys taken later have more promising futures potentially than Booker ever did).

But again, none of this matters if we get hosed these next two drafts. If we get hosed in '25 and '26, then this rebuild will fail period, regardless of Sarr, 90% of the future depends on either immense luck in the lottery, or stealing a guy who should have been taken at the top of the lottery in retrospect, if we happen to get killed in the draw in two months. Some of these arguments are chairs on the titanic kind of things. If we end up getting screwed in May, there's a good 75-85% chance none of this matters and we're just gonna suck deep into the rest of this decade, and need to basically get lucky through our pick swaps etc.
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#782 » by TheBlackCzar » Thu Mar 20, 2025 11:26 pm

The Consiglieri wrote:
DCZards wrote:
willbcocks wrote:Having great hands is about confidence, anticipation, engagement, and coordination. The only one of those things you can't improve with more practice is coordination, and Sarr's other skills show that's probably not his problem. Once he learns the game more and learns the situations in the pick and roll where he'll get the ball, he'll catch better. His picks are already a lot better.

I've said it since summer league, but the guys ability to shrug off criticism, stay confident and just keep putting in the work is a huge reason for optimism.

Sarr became an instant meme following his 0-15 SL game. Now, if those same folks are paying attention, they see that he’s a uniquely skilled big with a ton of potential.

Like you said, Sarr appeared to take the SL game lampooning in stride.


I just don't understand why anyone gave a ----. It's summer league, Vegas etc, seriously, who gives a ----. I get that it's the first time you see these rookies playing, and with Johnny Davis face planting immediately 2 years earlier, it felt like more of the same. But it's 5 freaking games, in July, w/teams playing with various degrees of committment and seriousness, reminds me of international friendlies in soccer.

To take that face planet, and let that face plant matter in any sense in November, December, January too you just always struck me as insane. The guy had hundreds of practices after that through December, dozens of games before New Years, now more than 50, real games, in the rear view mirror, and he's basically been a 37-38% 3 point shooting high volume shooter since Thanksgiving. That July should have been forgotten by December, if not November, the fact that it lingered for anyone always struck me as insane.

Maybe it's just I'm obssessive and watch an absolute ton of sports, focused about 75-80% of my attention in sports on international and club soccer, and pro football, and then the remaining 20-25% on NBA, NHL, MLB, College Football, College Basketball, plus I play and spend an absolute ---- ton of time analyzing prospects and professionals in dynasty football, so maybe I'm just more used to relevance of breakout age, sample size, athletic metrics, tools and whats relevant and what isn't etc, but sometimes it just feels like so granular in detail, and so fixated on one thing here or there that's frustrating (a craptacular summer league, a totally inept opening 15 games to his career, god awful 3 point shooting in that opening 15 games, the truly horrific 2 pt and lay up #'s) that people just miss whats right in front of him. The athleticism, the mentality, the 3 point piece the past 40ish games, the transition play (kind of point forward skills).....there is clearly something here, and it's really odd how people get totally fixated on this negative or that, when what he does have, is pretty damn rare (size and athleticism to go with 3 point skills, and open transition pace), and what he doesn't, is either fixable with practice and offseason weight training, or at least something that can be rendered adequate or average, rather than the gross liabilities that some of these pieces look like now. I'd be far more worried if he was a sluggish, tree trunk without any range on his jumper, no feel, and a weak or ignorant kind of mentality. Instead his mental make up appears good, he's legit athletic, he's got some clear skills he can scout on, and if he's a worker, he can bring up a lot of the lagging pieces of his game AND improve what he's already quite good at.

But I'm one of the hopeful ones. Its just from my perspective, in a draft this bereft of talent, landing the next Arvis Hayes, a euro trash type like Pech or Vesely, a meh jack of all , master of none type like Jeffries or the crappier version of Porter, a total nothing like Troy Brown, and Davis, a "----, he's just never gonna become anything" like Hachimura? Hes none of those versions of disappointing (I'll grant Porter was a legit player and doesn't entirely fit here, but he was also kind of disappointing from a similar draft people felt was bereft of any special talent at the time). to me, Sarr, right now, is an athletic big who can and will help us down the line with that atheleticism, and with the 3 hitting like it is, a genuine weapon. We got something (not even to mention Bub or George who clearly are hits in the way that Singleton, Vesley, Seraphin etc during the previous build clearly were not, even Booker, for as solid he was, didn't ever have much of a ceiling, all 3 of these guys, including the guys taken later have more promising futures potentially than Booker ever did).

But again, none of this matters if we get hosed these next two drafts. If we get hosed in '25 and '26, then this rebuild will fail period, regardless of Sarr, 90% of the future depends on either immense luck in the lottery, or stealing a guy who should have been taken at the top of the lottery in retrospect, if we happen to get killed in the draw in two months. Some of these arguments are chairs on the titanic kind of things. If we end up getting screwed in May, there's a good 75-85% chance none of this matters and we're just gonna suck deep into the rest of this decade, and need to basically get lucky through our pick swaps etc.



I just have to disagree with one point of yours.... If we don't get the expected draft pick and get worst case scenario's, hopefully those both being we don't lose our 1st in either season, but just lowest allowable pick, I think we won't be completely out of it.... This FO has proven to be vastly superior in scouting talent...... Now of course we'd take more time if that happens simply because we'll theoretically be choosing lesser players the more we drop, but I don't think we'll drop but I also don't see us getting the 1st pick and if we do, I will be as happy as I was when we got first for Wallstar.....

If we somehow luck into Flagg or Harper, wonderful, but if we ended up with say Edgecomb or Bailey, I think we're still going to be alright....
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#783 » by The Consiglieri » Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:29 am

I would argue it entirely depends upon if we manage to find a hidden megastar like SGA, outside of the bluechip zone (typically 1-3, sometimes 1-5). If we get hosed in the lottery, our only out is if we land someone who was mis-scouted like SGA, or just missed period like Giannis or Jokic etc. We can still land a star if we get hosed by the lottery, but the odds we do land one drop immensely.
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#784 » by doclinkin » Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:04 am

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In reference to earlier in your post. You may be one, but there were a ton of people who didn't want him.

Just spit balling, it felt like:

25% of the board wanted Clingan

35% of the board wanted a trade down for Castle, or Holland, or Shepard or taking one of those guys at slot.

40% of the board were fine w/the swing for the fences that was Sarr (I was one of those guys).

I've always had the weird, never repeated by anyone else take (lol), that he was the perfect pick because any of the 3 potential results we had from him would help us long term:

1. He becomes a star: Obviously that's great.

2. He becomes a solid, above average to league average starter or close to that: Good, that helps long term, but it also doesn't improve us enough in the short term to impact our tanking.

3. He is a mega bust, and that helps our tanking an absolute ton for the following two loaded drafts ('25 which appeared to be good and top heavy, and '26 which appeared to be good, top heavy but also deeper).

All of those scenarios to me were much better ideas than trying to hit high floor doubles and singles with picks like Risacher, Shepard, Clingan, and Castle, all of whom had the ability to step in immediately and help, maybe too much, but also, almost across the board, had lower long term ceiling potential than Sarr. That's why I wanted no part of them, they would hurt the tank AND fail to provide the ceiling potential that Sarr would offer in addition to being too damn raw to help the team win immediately.

So I always viewed all of those guys as borderline idiotic picks, they felt like Jared Jeffries kind of selections: get a good solid player, get a better team immediately through said pick, offer no roof raising potential, and also screw us in terms of tanking. No thank you. I will admit Castle gave me some pause, as I wasn't sure what his ceiling was, same to a lesser degree with the mecurial and apparently bat ---- crazy Holland, but not remotely enough for me to want to pass on Sarr.

I am also uber patient, it's one of the aspects that I find so confounding w/other fans. Many, many, many of us have been watching this slow moving disaster of a franchise since Reagan was a president, if we kept watching through the middling eighties, horrible nineties, crazy erratic aughts, heartbreaking last decade, and the total ---- show that has been 2019-2025, I have no idea whatsoever why tanking for another 2 or 3 years beyond 2024 is a big deal for anyone. This team has been utterly unwatchable for basically my entire NBA watching life (will hit 40 years in 2026). what is 2 more years? 3 potentially? It's nothing. I have total patience for these guys and Bilal. Total. High hopes for them, and considering how utterly ---- I viewed the draft a year ago, to have a legit player in Bub, a guy with legit potential in George, and a guy with a great ceiling and clearly reasonable floor in Sarr is a HUGE win to me. There are only 2 or 3 guys in the top 20 I'd rather us have picked thus far, but I'm very happy that we quite clearly snagged 3 of the better guys of the top 25, and probably all 3 of them will end up top 10-15ish. It is weird to see that a few of us, me included, seem to have nailed Collier. I remember him being #1 to #3 at worse in the summer and fall of '23 mocks and remain flabbergasted he dropped so far. A good reminder that GM's in all sports can continuously just be stupid.


I wanted to trade back and get both Castle and Edey. Failing that I wanted to select Castle anyway to see if I could extort the Spurs for an exorbitant return, since I predicted (correctly it turns out) that was the guy they wanted. If not, I'd happily keep him. I was willing to accept Sheppard if the pro scouts thought his numbers would translate, but to me they looked literally unbelievable and a relic of the Calipari system that pretty much warps stats for everybody, good and bad. But I doubted the front office would take him anyway. Not long for his position, no upside.

Otherwise I agree with 90% of your post with one glaring exception:

ARED 'O-Face" EFFRIES WAS NOT A SOLID PICK AND IT WAS PREDICTABLE THAT HE WAS A TURD SANDWICH.

I wanted Caron Butler and was heartsick that he fell to one pick away from our selection. I liked Tayshaun Prince some, though his junior year numbers were better. But I was prepared to sulk no matter who we picked at that point.
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#785 » by DCZards » Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:11 am

Yup…l was crushed too when the Zards missed out on getting Caron Butler by one pick. I was Tough Juice’s biggest fan when he did eventually end up in a Zards uni.

Castle was my favorite player in the draft but I was all in for taking Sarr because I also believe he has the highest ceiling.

I disagree with consig though when he says Castle, Risacher, Sheppard, etc. would have hurt the tank. None of them would have moved the needle as far as wins and loses, imo. The Zards still would have been the worst team in the NBA.
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#786 » by AFM » Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:04 pm

saw this on reddit...Sarr going BEAST MODE

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Post#787 » by payitforward » Fri Mar 21, 2025 7:08 pm

(moved from trade thread...)
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payitforward wrote:1. I like Sarr. He's the guy I would have picked. & he may turn out to be a terrific player. Or not. No certainty either way. & there is certainly not much reason to predict optimistically based on his play in March.

2. Sarr is NOT going to be traded. Not for a high pick in the '25 draft. Not for anything. Not now, anyway -- & not for a while. Which makes the discussion of what he would be worth in draft assets kind of pointless.

3. It's good to be optimistic about our rookies. But, Alex has had a really lousy rookie year. March has been better than earlier months, but don't kid yourself: he hasn't been especially good overall in March.

Honest question, why don't you compare 19 year old rookies to other 19 year old rookies? Does it make more sense to evaluate Sarr based on other young rookies or should we compare him to everyone at his position the vast majority of which are significantly older?

That's a perfectly good point. We don't draw the same conclusions from a 19-year old's play that we draw from a veteran's play. But, even when we simply look at the play of this year's rookies, Alex has not done well. & anyway, we don't want to think about whether he'll be as good as other rookies -- we want to think about how good he's going to be overall. Nor are we looking for him to be "average" -- he was the 2d pick in the NBA draft!

In fact, Sarr's difficulties so far are pretty clear & well-defined: he's shooting a sub-par 3 point % (but it's improving -- probably not a long-term issue, wch is good!), he's shooting a sub-par 2-point % (compared either to a Forward or a Center), & he's sub-par from the FT line as well.

The rest of his numbers are subject to a different interpretation if we view him as a Center than if we view him as a Forward.

Compared to an average Center, his rebounding numbers, don't look good. But... if you compare them to average PF numbers, they don't look nearly as bad.

Now... basically he's been playing Center not Forward, right? So his rebounding & his 2-point % both cause significant concern, especially insofar as they reflect a style of play he might not be able to alter.

But, since we all know he's not a prototypical Center & that he wants to play Forward, we probably have to stake our hopes for him on his success making that transition!
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#788 » by The Consiglieri » Sat Mar 22, 2025 1:39 am

doclinkin wrote:
The Consiglieri wrote:
doclinkin wrote:


In reference to earlier in your post. You may be one, but there were a ton of people who didn't want him.

Just spit balling, it felt like:

25% of the board wanted Clingan

35% of the board wanted a trade down for Castle, or Holland, or Shepard or taking one of those guys at slot.

40% of the board were fine w/the swing for the fences that was Sarr (I was one of those guys).

I've always had the weird, never repeated by anyone else take (lol), that he was the perfect pick because any of the 3 potential results we had from him would help us long term:

1. He becomes a star: Obviously that's great.

2. He becomes a solid, above average to league average starter or close to that: Good, that helps long term, but it also doesn't improve us enough in the short term to impact our tanking.

3. He is a mega bust, and that helps our tanking an absolute ton for the following two loaded drafts ('25 which appeared to be good and top heavy, and '26 which appeared to be good, top heavy but also deeper).

All of those scenarios to me were much better ideas than trying to hit high floor doubles and singles with picks like Risacher, Shepard, Clingan, and Castle, all of whom had the ability to step in immediately and help, maybe too much, but also, almost across the board, had lower long term ceiling potential than Sarr. That's why I wanted no part of them, they would hurt the tank AND fail to provide the ceiling potential that Sarr would offer in addition to being too damn raw to help the team win immediately.

So I always viewed all of those guys as borderline idiotic picks, they felt like Jared Jeffries kind of selections: get a good solid player, get a better team immediately through said pick, offer no roof raising potential, and also screw us in terms of tanking. No thank you. I will admit Castle gave me some pause, as I wasn't sure what his ceiling was, same to a lesser degree with the mecurial and apparently bat ---- crazy Holland, but not remotely enough for me to want to pass on Sarr.

I am also uber patient, it's one of the aspects that I find so confounding w/other fans. Many, many, many of us have been watching this slow moving disaster of a franchise since Reagan was a president, if we kept watching through the middling eighties, horrible nineties, crazy erratic aughts, heartbreaking last decade, and the total ---- show that has been 2019-2025, I have no idea whatsoever why tanking for another 2 or 3 years beyond 2024 is a big deal for anyone. This team has been utterly unwatchable for basically my entire NBA watching life (will hit 40 years in 2026). what is 2 more years? 3 potentially? It's nothing. I have total patience for these guys and Bilal. Total. High hopes for them, and considering how utterly ---- I viewed the draft a year ago, to have a legit player in Bub, a guy with legit potential in George, and a guy with a great ceiling and clearly reasonable floor in Sarr is a HUGE win to me. There are only 2 or 3 guys in the top 20 I'd rather us have picked thus far, but I'm very happy that we quite clearly snagged 3 of the better guys of the top 25, and probably all 3 of them will end up top 10-15ish. It is weird to see that a few of us, me included, seem to have nailed Collier. I remember him being #1 to #3 at worse in the summer and fall of '23 mocks and remain flabbergasted he dropped so far. A good reminder that GM's in all sports can continuously just be stupid.


I wanted to trade back and get both Castle and Edey. Failing that I wanted to select Castle anyway to see if I could extort the Spurs for an exorbitant return, since I predicted (correctly it turns out) that was the guy they wanted. If not, I'd happily keep him. I was willing to accept Sheppard if the pro scouts thought his numbers would translate, but to me they looked literally unbelievable and a relic of the Calipari system that pretty much warps stats for everybody, good and bad. But I doubted the front office would take him anyway. Not long for his position, no upside.

Otherwise I agree with 90% of your post with one glaring exception:

ARED 'O-Face" EFFRIES WAS NOT A SOLID PICK AND IT WAS PREDICTABLE THAT HE WAS A TURD SANDWICH.

I wanted Caron Butler and was heartsick that he fell to one pick away from our selection. I liked Tayshaun Prince some, though his junior year numbers were better. But I was prepared to sulk no matter who we picked at that point.



That isn't an exception. I 1000% despised the Jeffries pick, absolutely despised it, it being such a classic wizards floor pick. When Butler fell it felt like the 5 year anniversary of Paul Pierce inexplicably falling for no reason, that we didn't even try to move up?!?! Absolutely asinine. My memory, and maybe its wrong, is that Jeffries was basically, fine, blah, like a poor mans Cal Cheney level pay off or whatever, not a bust, but not remotely helpful or in the same universe of a game changing pick like Butler was (not that he was gonna be star, but that he was gonna be a player that maxed his abilities and would be like one tier short of an all star, at this best). So yeah, right there with you, in '98 that guy was Pierce, in '99 it was Rip Hamilton (who we then traded away lol because of course), and then a couple of years afterwards, '02 or '03, cant remember which, it was Arvis and Jeffries in back to back ---- show selections for floor results.
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#789 » by prime1time » Sat Mar 22, 2025 2:04 am

AFM wrote:saw this on reddit...Sarr going BEAST MODE

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Where did you get this?
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Post#790 » by WallToWall » Sat Mar 22, 2025 3:43 am

payitforward wrote:<snip>
That's a perfectly good point. We don't draw the same conclusions from a 19-year old's play that we draw from a veteran's play. But, even when we simply look at the play of this year's rookies, Alex has not done well. & anyway, we don't want to think about whether he'll be as good as other rookies -- we want to think about how good he's going to be overall. Nor are we looking for him to be "average" -- he was the 2d pick in the NBA draft!
<snip>


Other than FT%, every other stat is a reflection of who Sarr is playing with, and the opponent. If we were to put Sarr (the version from the last 6 games) on a team next to average veteran players at all other positions, his numbers and play would likely look much better. And, that would likely cause us to claim he was a good player.

Castle has the benefit of playing with Fox, Paul, Wemby before injury. I would suspect many of the other rookies, whose numbers look good, are playing next to vets. I havent gone looking to prove/disprove this assertion...its just something I suspect.
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#791 » by AFM » Sat Mar 22, 2025 4:10 am

prime1time wrote:
AFM wrote:saw this on reddit...Sarr going BEAST MODE

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Where did you get this?


https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtonwizards/comments/1jfvshh/sarrs_last_5_games/
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Post#792 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Mar 22, 2025 7:11 am

tontoz wrote:Sarr is a strange case because he has been better than expected from 3 (36.6% since Dec 1) but awful on 2s. That is an odd scenario for a big.
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Post#793 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Mar 22, 2025 7:18 am

dckingsfan wrote:Sarr is going to be a really good 3-point shooter as his career moves on. I don't think there should be any doubt about this now.

Which brings up the question of why we are pigeonholing him at C. I think this is a bad move both offensively and defensively.

On D, from the games I have watched, he doesn't really enjoy contact. But he has been switchable and a good off-ball defender and seems to be fine defending forwards. And he rebounds like a small forward even though he is presented the opportunities to rebound from the C position.

Doc's idea, IMO, is spot on. Move this guy to forward - I think he could be really special in that role.
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Post#794 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Mar 22, 2025 7:29 am

The Consiglieri wrote:I would argue it entirely depends upon if we manage to find a hidden megastar like SGA, outside of the bluechip zone (typically 1-3, sometimes 1-5). If we get hosed in the lottery, our only out is if we land someone who was mis-scouted like SGA, or just missed period like Giannis or Jokic etc. We can still land a star if we get hosed by the lottery, but the odds we do land one drop immensely.
With the second first round pick, I think Will Riley could become a megastar.
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Post#795 » by gambitx777 » Sat Mar 22, 2025 10:15 am

I think having a beef cake already physically ready center for Sarr to lean on when he just gets too over powered could be useful for a couple years till he fills out.

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Post#796 » by dobrojim » Sat Mar 22, 2025 2:56 pm

Missing Butler (as a draft pick) was unfortunate. Missing Reggie Miller by one pick was tragic.
We took Muggsy one pick later but it was widely hinted at that we really wanted Miller and
would have taken him. Miller went 11th, Muggsy went 12th.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_1987.html

Other notables in that draft:
DRob -1
Scottie Pippen (drafted by SEA) 5
Kenny Smith 6
Kevin Johnson 7
Ho Grant 10
Mark Jackson 18

10 years from now, which players in Alex's draft class will be the slap your forehead if only guys?
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#797 » by Benjammin » Sat Mar 22, 2025 7:44 pm

It's pretty random how ared effries made an appearance in this thread...

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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#798 » by Benjammin » Sat Mar 22, 2025 7:47 pm

dobrojim wrote:Missing Butler (as a draft pick) was unfortunate. Missing Reggie Miller by one pick was tragic.
We took Muggsy one pick later but it was widely hinted at that we really wanted Miller and
would have taken him. Miller went 11th, Muggsy went 12th.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_1987.html

Other notables in that draft:
DRob -1
Scottie Pippen (drafted by SEA) 5
Kenny Smith 6
Kevin Johnson 7
Ho Grant 10
Mark Jackson 18

10 years from now, which players in Alex's draft class will be the slap your forehead if only guys?
If my memory isn't off that may have also had a contingent Fat Lever deal included or perhaps another draft year. Nothing will top Kenny Green over Karl Malone although perhaps the Mailman's career wouldn't have delivered in Washington.

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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#799 » by dobrojim » Sat Mar 22, 2025 10:01 pm

Vesely over Klay or Kawhi?
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Re: Alex Sarr 

Post#800 » by tontoz » Sat Mar 22, 2025 10:19 pm

dobrojim wrote:Vesely over Klay or Kawhi?



I remember we had a poll before that draft asking who we DIDN'T want to draft at 6. Vesely was the runaway winner.
"bulky agile perimeter bone crunch pick setting draymond green" WizD

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