Josh Giddey - Conundrum Killer

[dougthonus]

Give him big bucks but on a short deal . Good for both sides .

There is no real reason for Giddey to agree to a short deal. He'd probably prefer taking the QO and becoming an UFA.

Big bucks on a short deal might would probably be better than the QO for him if he believes in himself, but what is the point?

Say you do 2/65 or something, why do you want Giddey propping up your team for two years? If you believe in him then sign him, if you don't believe in him then let him walk and be bad and pursue the draft.

[sco]

Give him big bucks but on a short deal . Good for both sides .

There is no real reason for Giddey to agree to a short deal. He'd probably prefer taking the QO and becoming an UFA.

Big bucks on a short deal might would probably be better than the QO for him if he believes in himself, but what is the point?

Say you do 2/65 or something, why do you want Giddey propping up your team for two years? If you believe in him then sign him, if you don't believe in him then let him walk and be bad and pursue the draft.

I think the value is that if his play at this level isn't sustainable, you have your out. At that point, we might have a new FO and more flexibility.

[sco]

He's back tonight!

[WindyCityBorn]

Giddey with another strong game. It’s not a fluke or hot streak guys.

[NecessaryEvil]

He’s emerging.

A foundational piece has been found. AK with a win here.

[Chi town]

He’s emerging.

A foundational piece has been found. AK with a win here.

Certainly looks like Giddey is emerging into a core piece and we all know AK will be treating him that way.

Was fun to see him back. He makes the game so much more enjoyable to watch with his passing and pace. I'd also say he may be our best hustle player. I really like the team's leader being that player. Its contagious and sets the tone for the rest of the team.


How does everyone feel about Giddey as a leader?

Who is the leader of this team? We've heard Coby has become a lot more vocal.

[sco]

He’s emerging.

A foundational piece has been found. AK with a win here.

Certainly looks like Giddey is emerging into a core piece and we all know AK will be treating him that way.

Was fun to see him back. He makes the game so much more enjoyable to watch with his passing and pace. I'd also say he may be our best hustle player. I really like the team's leader being that player. Its contagious and sets the tone for the rest of the team.


How does everyone feel about Giddey as a leader?

Who is the leader of this team? We've heard Coby has become a lot more vocal.

I'm not sure what leadership can do about ensuring that Pat and Vuc stay on the bench, but sign me up for some of that leadership from anyone, ANYONE!

[Red8911]

Sometimes we just need to be more patient with young players with potential , something us bulls fans don’t have.

Giddey looked average for most of the season with the same weaknesses but once Zach left he got a bigger role and has stepped up.It unlocked his skills. Hes even been confident with his shooting and his defense is solid.

Hes doing it at the best time possible (for him) as he will certainly now get paid the big bucks one way or another whether it’s here or somewhere else. At least he proved his worth, unlike Pat who got paid based on potential without showing much.

[sco]

Sometimes we just need to be more patient with young players with potential , something us bulls fans don’t have.

Giddey looked average for most of the season with the same weaknesses but once Zach left he got a bigger role and has stepped up.It unlocked his skills. Hes even been confident with his shooting and his defense is solid.

Hes doing it at the best time possible (for him) as he will certainly now get paid the big bucks one way or another whether it’s here or somewhere else. At least he proved his worth, unlike Pat who got paid based on potential without showing much.

I'd much rather pay a guy who shows he's worth $30m than pay a guy $20m based on potential.

[MalagaBulls]

Sometimes we just need to be more patient with young players with potential , something us bulls fans don’t have.

Giddey looked average for most of the season with the same weaknesses but once Zach left he got a bigger role and has stepped up.It unlocked his skills. Hes even been confident with his shooting and his defense is solid.

Hes doing it at the best time possible (for him) as he will certainly now get paid the big bucks one way or another whether it’s here or somewhere else. At least he proved his worth, unlike Pat who got paid based on potential without showing much.

I'd much rather pay a guy who shows he's worth $30m than pay a guy $20m based on potential.

Hey, PWill resembles that remark!!

[WindyCityBorn]

Giddey critics quiet as church mice now.

[Ice Man]

Sometimes we just need to be more patient with young players with potential , something us bulls fans don’t have.

Hmmm. The Bulls made a mistake by bailing on Laurie; otherwise, I can't think of a young player during the past 15 years that they let go, then later regretted. I guess you could say Bobby Portis, but I would respond that 1) he disappointed two additional teams before landing in Milwaukee; 2) the Bucks got him at a lower price than we would have paid (because his value dropped after his stints in Washington & New York), and 3) while useful, he's not a cornerstone player. He's a nice-to-have for teams that have already found their key pieces -- which of course, the Bulls have not,

But yes, evaluating young prospects is hard. Sometimes you hang onto a guy too long and get burned holding an expensive second contract, while other times he blossoms after he leaves. That's the nature of the beast, unfortunately.

[pipfan]

Giddey critics quiet as church mice now.

I was certainly a doubter-it wasn't the shooting or bad defense as much as the stupid/lazy turnovers

The way he's playing now, he's obviously a keeper. Seems like a good guy too (fits with the rest of the team).
Man, if PWill could lose weight and become a solid 3 man, our future would luck MUCH brighter. But, that ship has sailed, sadly

[Dez]

Giddey critics quiet as church mice now.

I was certainly a doubter-it wasn't the shooting or bad defense as much as the stupid/lazy turnovers

The way he's playing now, he's obviously a keeper. Seems like a good guy too (fits with the rest of the team).
Man, if PWill could lose weight and become a solid 3 man, our future would luck MUCH brighter. But, that ship has sailed, sadly

Weight isn't Pat's problem, getting out of 1st gear is.

[DeniBuck]

Two potential suitors for Giddey:
Depending on their draft, Brooklyn could offer him a front loaded contract of say $130m over 4 ($40m in the first year with a player option at 4). Why? Sean Marks sees him as a quality person and player and capable of leading a team of largely rookies.
Washington : again depending on their draft position Washington will have cap space and their assistant coach Adam Caporn is the new head coach for the Australian team. He has been close to Giddey since he was a teenager.

There’s no way other teams are going to let Giddey run back with the bulls at anything less than $30m per year.

[sco]

Giddey critics quiet as church mice now.

I was certainly a doubter-it wasn't the shooting or bad defense as much as the stupid/lazy turnovers

The way he's playing now, he's obviously a keeper. Seems like a good guy too (fits with the rest of the team).
Man, if PWill could lose weight and become a solid 3 man, our future would luck MUCH brighter. But, that ship has sailed, sadly

Weight isn't Pat's problem, getting out of 1st gear is.

Weight is a problem for him in terms of quickness, but it is a far smaller problem than his BBIQ and skillset.

[Dez]

I was certainly a doubter-it wasn't the shooting or bad defense as much as the stupid/lazy turnovers

The way he's playing now, he's obviously a keeper. Seems like a good guy too (fits with the rest of the team).
Man, if PWill could lose weight and become a solid 3 man, our future would luck MUCH brighter. But, that ship has sailed, sadly

Weight isn't Pat's problem, getting out of 1st gear is.

Weight is a problem for him in terms of quickness, but it is a far smaller problem than his BBIQ and skillset.

It's not a problem, quickness means nothing if you never break out of a canter.

[Chi town]

He’s emerging.

A foundational piece has been found. AK with a win here.

Certainly looks like Giddey is emerging into a core piece and we all know AK will be treating him that way.

Was fun to see him back. He makes the game so much more enjoyable to watch with his passing and pace. I'd also say he may be our best hustle player. I really like the team's leader being that player. Its contagious and sets the tone for the rest of the team.


How does everyone feel about Giddey as a leader?

Who is the leader of this team? We've heard Coby has become a lot more vocal.

I'm not sure what leadership can do about ensuring that Pat and Vuc stay on the bench, but sign me up for some of that leadership from anyone, ANYONE!

Preach.

They are good for the tank!

Pat needs a hard reset this summer. Get lean. Shoot 3s. Be a 3D guy. Not a lazy walking turnover.

[dougthonus]

Two potential suitors for Giddey:
Depending on their draft, Brooklyn could offer him a front loaded contract of say $130m over 4 ($40m in the first year with a player option at 4). Why? Sean Marks sees him as a quality person and player and capable of leading a team of largely rookies.
Washington : again depending on their draft position Washington will have cap space and their assistant coach Adam Caporn is the new head coach for the Australian team. He has been close to Giddey since he was a teenager.

There’s no way other teams are going to let Giddey run back with the bulls at anything less than $30m per year.

Washington isn't going to have cap room.

Brooklyn is the only team that is going to be able offer him a meaningful amount of money. If Brooklyn wants to do that then maybe they will, or maybe they won't who knows. They're the only threat. If Brooklyn does something else, then Giddey is stuck between taking the QO and whatever we offer.

[WindyCityBorn]

Two potential suitors for Giddey:
Depending on their draft, Brooklyn could offer him a front loaded contract of say $130m over 4 ($40m in the first year with a player option at 4). Why? Sean Marks sees him as a quality person and player and capable of leading a team of largely rookies.
Washington : again depending on their draft position Washington will have cap space and their assistant coach Adam Caporn is the new head coach for the Australian team. He has been close to Giddey since he was a teenager.

There’s no way other teams are going to let Giddey run back with the bulls at anything less than $30m per year.

Washington isn't going to have cap room.

Brooklyn is the only team that is going to be able offer him a meaningful amount of money. If Brooklyn wants to do that then maybe they will, or maybe they won't who knows. They're the only threat. If Brooklyn does something else, then Giddey is stuck between taking the QO and whatever we offer.

Utah has no cap space?