Celtics 2025-26, Off-Season/Training Camp Thread

[Hal14]

Looking at the updated numbers for this season..and the Celtics continued preference for 3's:

-Baylor lighting it up lately, up to 34% from 3 (that's after a rough start to the season though..last couple months he's probably up near 40%) and 83% FT
-Baylor was a known shooter coming out of college
-Baylor has been getting mins over Walsh lately
-Walsh is at 29% from 3 this season and only like 58% from the FT line
-When we drafted him, shooting was a weakness for Walsh

Seems like at this point, Baylor is firmly ahead of Walsh on the depth chart

Also looking at the numbers, Walsh only with a 36.9 FG% and Tillman down there at 26.1. Really, Tillman? How is it even possible that he's got a 26.1 FG% ?

On a team like this, with good spacing and so many other offensive weapons so that there's less defensive attention on him , this easier shots to make.

Of course, all 3 of these guys, a good chunk of their mins have come in garbage time so you kind of have to take with a grain of salt, but still..

At this point, I'd say Walsh and Tillman are bottom of the depth chart. We've got our top 9 guys set in stone. Then there's 2 wings who look good..one who's more likely to contribute this postseason (Craig) and one who is getting mm for the future (Baylor) long with Queta, who's not great but not terrible..he's just an ok deep bench big..a solid 4th big who gets some mins here and there when needed but unlikely to contribute in the playoffs.

Main point is that with the way they've been playing and with the way we prioritize shooting, it's looking good for Baylor and not good for Walsh. And also not looking good for Tillman - perhaps we try and trade him over the summer? His value is so low though..nobody will probably want him..it's a cheap contract, though..maybe someone will take him who needs the big man depth..

[cloverleaf]

Wyc says look out for what Stevens will do in June and July, no team will stay in the 2nd apron for more than 2 years:

https://www.audacy.com/weei/sports/celtics/celtics-owner-discussed-luxury-tax-for-future-roster

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Looking at the updated numbers for this season..and the Celtics continued preference for 3's:

-Baylor lighting it up lately, up to 34% from 3 (that's after a rough start to the season though..last couple months he's probably up near 40%) and 83% FT
-Baylor was a known shooter coming out of college
-Baylor has been getting mins over Walsh lately
-Walsh is at 29% from 3 this season and only like 58% from the FT line
-When we drafted him, shooting was a weakness for Walsh

Seems like at this point, Baylor is firmly ahead of Walsh on the depth chart

Also looking at the numbers, Walsh only with a 36.9 FG% and Tillman down there at 26.1. Really, Tillman? How is it even possible that he's got a 26.1 FG% ?

On a team like this, with good spacing and so many other offensive weapons so that there's less defensive attention on him , this easier shots to make.

Of course, all 3 of these guys, a good chunk of their mins have come in garbage time so you kind of have to take with a grain of salt, but still..

At this point, I'd say Walsh and Tillman are bottom of the depth chart. We've got our top 9 guys set in stone. Then there's 2 wings who look good..one who's more likely to contribute this postseason (Craig) and one who is getting mm for the future (Baylor) long with Queta, who's not great but not terrible..he's just an ok deep bench big..a solid 4th big who gets some mins here and there when needed but unlikely to contribute in the playoffs.

Main point is that with the way they've been playing and with the way we prioritize shooting, it's looking good for Baylor and not good for Walsh. And also not looking good for Tillman - perhaps we try and trade him over the summer? His value is so low though..nobody will probably want him..it's a cheap contract, though..maybe someone will take him who needs the big man depth..

Baylor had 5 appearances in garbage time early in the year where he went a combined 0/6 from three. Then he had a long stretch where he didn't play a single second for Boston. Since reappearing in the lineup on January 17th, he has played in 14 games (126 minutes) and shot 11/26 from three (42.6%). Small sample size obviously and it's heavily skewed by one hot night so it might not sustain itself at that level. At the same time, I feel like he still has a lot of room for improvement when it comes to setting his feet before shooting and sorting that out will help his accuracy.

[ConstableGeneva]

No three players from the same team has made 225+ threes in the same season... until PP (227), White (230), and Tatum (230) of the 2025 Celtics came along. The Celtics have 12 games left.

All three could realistically break the single-season franchise record for most threes made by a player (245) set by Isaiah Thomas in 2017.

[ConstableGeneva]

No three players from the same team has made 225+ threes in the same season... until PP (227), White (230), and Tatum (230) of the 2025 Celtics came along. The Celtics have 12 games left.

All three could realistically break the single-season franchise record for most threes made by a player (245) set by Isaiah Thomas in 2017.

On a slightly disappointing note, the Celtics might not be able to replicate the record of having 8 guys making 100+ threes each in a single season they set in 2023 and 2024. Holiday (91) and Horford (97) could get there and become our 6th and 7th guys to convert 100+ 3s but Porzingis needs 18 more with 12 games left (he's likely resting for some of these).

[Hal14]

Wyc says look out for what Stevens will do in June and July, no team will stay in the 2nd apron for more than 2 years:

https://www.audacy.com/weei/sports/celtics/celtics-owner-discussed-luxury-tax-for-future-roster

Yup..and this is the 2nd year we were over the 2nd apron.

So we'll be trimming some payroll this summer.

The last dance with this group. Really hope we win banner 19 in June!

[Fierce1]

Next 5 games will determine if Cs win 60 games or not.

[cloverleaf]

Wyc says look out for what Stevens will do in June and July, no team will stay in the 2nd apron for more than 2 years:

https://www.audacy.com/weei/sports/celtics/celtics-owner-discussed-luxury-tax-for-future-roster

Yup..and this is the 2nd year we were over the 2nd apron.

So we'll be trimming some payroll this summer.

The last dance with this group. Really hope we win banner 19 in June!

My guess/hope is that Sam and Jrue go, with Rico and PP stepping into their roles. I'd extend Luke if it's reasonable. Davison slips into the 14th spot, with the assignment of guarding the waterbugs and an opportunity to earn a rotation spot, though that's probably another year out. If Rico gets comfortable, he could be not only their next Sam but also their 3rd ballhandler (beyond the usual deference to the Jays) next season. Will Brown rebound next year to make for a profitable trade in a year? I'm thinking Al's back only if he'll take the minimum, but Queta gets a bigger role while Luke slips into Al's old salary slot.

[ConstableGeneva]

via the celticsrising IG account. Pretty cool if true.

[165bows]

Wyc says look out for what Stevens will do in June and July, no team will stay in the 2nd apron for more than 2 years:

https://www.audacy.com/weei/sports/celtics/celtics-owner-discussed-luxury-tax-for-future-roster

Yup..and this is the 2nd year we were over the 2nd apron.

So we'll be trimming some payroll this summer.

The last dance with this group. Really hope we win banner 19 in June!

Do we have confirmation if that clock started last year yet or no? Some of these new CBA issues are phased in over time - need one of our cap gurus to weigh in on this for clarification

[brackdan70]

Wyc says look out for what Stevens will do in June and July, no team will stay in the 2nd apron for more than 2 years:

https://www.audacy.com/weei/sports/celtics/celtics-owner-discussed-luxury-tax-for-future-roster

Yup..and this is the 2nd year we were over the 2nd apron.

So we'll be trimming some payroll this summer.

The last dance with this group. Really hope we win banner 19 in June!

Do we have confirmation if that clock started last year yet or no? Some of these new CBA issues are phased in over time - need one of our cap gurus to weigh in on this for clarification

The more punitive second apron rules like your pick goes to the end of the draft if you are over the 2nd apron for 3/5 years went into effect this season. My interpretation is that the clock for that started with this season.

[cloverleaf]

Yup..and this is the 2nd year we were over the 2nd apron.

So we'll be trimming some payroll this summer.

The last dance with this group. Really hope we win banner 19 in June!

Do we have confirmation if that clock started last year yet or no? Some of these new CBA issues are phased in over time - need one of our cap gurus to weigh in on this for clarification

The more punitive second apron rules like your pick goes to the end of the draft if you are over the 2nd apron for 3/5 years went into effect this season. My interpretation is that the clock for that started with this season.

However, Wyc implied that the tough decisions would start this June and July.

[brackdan70]

Do we have confirmation if that clock started last year yet or no? Some of these new CBA issues are phased in over time - need one of our cap gurus to weigh in on this for clarification

The more punitive second apron rules like your pick goes to the end of the draft if you are over the 2nd apron for 3/5 years went into effect this season. My interpretation is that the clock for that started with this season.

However, Wyc implied that the tough decisions would start this June and July.

Yeah, goes to the point that he was full of **** saying it’s not about the tax…

[phincsfan]

So do these draft penalties possibly start in the 32’ or 33’ draft if they’re over the 2nd apron for the 25/26 season?

The problem with the pick being frozen or moved to the end of the 1st round is it makes it less favorable in trades. IMO teams would rather that future 1st than a late 1st in next year or the one after’s draft.

[ConstableGeneva]

Wyc says look out for what Stevens will do in June and July, no team will stay in the 2nd apron for more than 2 years:

https://www.audacy.com/weei/sports/celtics/celtics-owner-discussed-luxury-tax-for-future-roster

Yup..and this is the 2nd year we were over the 2nd apron.

So we'll be trimming some payroll this summer.

The last dance with this group. Really hope we win banner 19 in June!

Do we have confirmation if that clock started last year yet or no? Some of these new CBA issues are phased in over time - need one of our cap gurus to weigh in on this for clarification

The way I understand it, Cs right now can't trade their 2032 pick and if we're a second apron team in two of the next four seasons,the 2032 pick will be moved to last pick in the 1st round regardless of seeding in 2031-32 season.

This is from the actual CBA:

[165bows]

The more punitive second apron rules like your pick goes to the end of the draft if you are over the 2nd apron for 3/5 years went into effect this season. My interpretation is that the clock for that started with this season.

However, Wyc implied that the tough decisions would start this June and July.

Yeah, goes to the point that he was full of **** saying it’s not about the tax…

I've been enjoying the First to the Floor podcast, really good Celtics listen - funny they had the exact same response to this set of quotes, ie, this is not about the transaction penalties this is the money.

And hey it is what it is, money doesn't grow on trees but we can call a spade a spade here.

[ConstableGeneva]

The Celtics are 6.5 games ahead of the 4th best NBA team with 11 to play. If they make the Finals and OKC doesn't, Cs most likely have HCA.

[ConstableGeneva]

White, PP, JT, and Hauser have more made threes as a foursome than the entire Magic team and entire Raptors team this season.

[ConstableGeneva]

Celtics on pace to shatter the single-season record for most made threes by a team. They just need to average 8 3s per game in their last 10. Seems doable.

[cloverleaf]

The more punitive second apron rules like your pick goes to the end of the draft if you are over the 2nd apron for 3/5 years went into effect this season. My interpretation is that the clock for that started with this season.

However, Wyc implied that the tough decisions would start this June and July.

Yeah, goes to the point that he was full of **** saying it’s not about the tax…

Absolutely! That spin was insulting, though some of the lapdog Celtics media passed it along with a straight face.