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Around the NBA (Part Two)

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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#1001 » by minimus » Thu Mar 20, 2025 3:48 pm

frankenwolf wrote:Dang, if I knew the Celts were only going to go for 6.1Billion, I would have written a check out of petty cash. :lol: :lol: :lol:


I wonder if new owner knows about 500 mil tax payment check next year
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Post#1002 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Mar 20, 2025 4:32 pm

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frankenwolf wrote:Dang, if I knew the Celts were only going to go for 6.1Billion, I would have written a check out of petty cash. :lol: :lol: :lol:


I wonder if new owner knows about 500 mil tax payment check next year


Its one of the reasons the team was sold.
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Post#1003 » by minimus » Fri Mar 21, 2025 8:56 am

Interesting thing it looks like many players that I considered as trade targets either have not been playing well or have been injured:

Lonzo Ball
Jalen Smith
Cameron Johnson
DayRon Sharpe
Andrew Nembhard
Marcus Smart
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Post#1004 » by winforlose » Fri Mar 21, 2025 7:05 pm

So if we want 6 and assume that with the tie breaker we cannot catch GSW, (Curry is gonna miss a few games, but they are functionally 3 losses ahead of us,) then the next best thing is to root for LAC. Funny enough the 3 way tiebreaker actually helps us this time. We are 3-0 against LAC and 1-3 against GSW. Our record is therefore 4-3. LAC meanwhile has won 3 against GSW. LAC is therefore 3-3 with one more to play against GSW on the last game of the year. GSW is 3-4 having beat us 3 times and lost to us once, plus losing to LAC 3 times. I think our best case is for GSW to beat LAC in the final meeting to get the Clippers to 3-4, the Warriors to 4-4, and the Wolves to 4-3. Assuming of course that it works out so we all have the same losses.
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Post#1005 » by TimberKat » Fri Mar 21, 2025 8:29 pm

winforlose wrote:So if we want 6 and assume that with the tie breaker we cannot catch GSW, (Curry is gonna miss a few games, but they are functionally 3 losses ahead of us,) then the next best thing is to root for LAC. Funny enough the 3 way tiebreaker actually helps us this time. We are 3-0 against LAC and 1-3 against GSW. Our record is therefore 4-3. LAC meanwhile has won 3 against GSW. LAC is therefore 3-3 with one more to play against GSW on the last game of the year. GSW is 3-4 having beat us 3 times and lost to us once, plus losing to LAC 3 times. I think our best case is for GSW to beat LAC in the final meeting to get the Clippers to 3-4, the Warriors to 4-4, and the Wolves to 4-3. Assuming of course that it works out so we all have the same losses.

What happens if is a 4 way tie including the LAL? I had GSW, LAL, MIN all at 49 wins. Given the last two losses, it's down to 48 if we pull our head out of that dark deep hole.
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Post#1006 » by winforlose » Fri Mar 21, 2025 10:42 pm

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winforlose wrote:So if we want 6 and assume that with the tie breaker we cannot catch GSW, (Curry is gonna miss a few games, but they are functionally 3 losses ahead of us,) then the next best thing is to root for LAC. Funny enough the 3 way tiebreaker actually helps us this time. We are 3-0 against LAC and 1-3 against GSW. Our record is therefore 4-3. LAC meanwhile has won 3 against GSW. LAC is therefore 3-3 with one more to play against GSW on the last game of the year. GSW is 3-4 having beat us 3 times and lost to us once, plus losing to LAC 3 times. I think our best case is for GSW to beat LAC in the final meeting to get the Clippers to 3-4, the Warriors to 4-4, and the Wolves to 4-3. Assuming of course that it works out so we all have the same losses.

What happens if is a 4 way tie including the LAL? I had GSW, LAL, MIN all at 49 wins. Given the last two losses, it's down to 48 if we pull our head out of that dark deep hole.


You could go to espn and look at the Lakers record against the other 3. Then add them to the totals and do the math.
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Post#1007 » by TimberKat » Fri Mar 21, 2025 11:32 pm

winforlose wrote:
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winforlose wrote:So if we want 6 and assume that with the tie breaker we cannot catch GSW, (Curry is gonna miss a few games, but they are functionally 3 losses ahead of us,) then the next best thing is to root for LAC. Funny enough the 3 way tiebreaker actually helps us this time. We are 3-0 against LAC and 1-3 against GSW. Our record is therefore 4-3. LAC meanwhile has won 3 against GSW. LAC is therefore 3-3 with one more to play against GSW on the last game of the year. GSW is 3-4 having beat us 3 times and lost to us once, plus losing to LAC 3 times. I think our best case is for GSW to beat LAC in the final meeting to get the Clippers to 3-4, the Warriors to 4-4, and the Wolves to 4-3. Assuming of course that it works out so we all have the same losses.

What happens if is a 4 way tie including the LAL? I had GSW, LAL, MIN all at 49 wins. Given the last two losses, it's down to 48 if we pull our head out of that dark deep hole.


You could go to espn and look at the Lakers record against the other 3. Then add them to the totals and do the math.

Lakers wins the tie breaks 3-0 vs GSW, 3-1 vs LAC, 2-2 vs Twolves.
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Post#1008 » by Loaf_of_bread » Sat Mar 22, 2025 2:54 am

Going against clips then phx in play-in could be our fate..and season ends without being in the playoffs. we can lose to anyone in 1 game, but that scenario has been going through my head.
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Post#1009 » by Klomp » Sat Mar 22, 2025 3:14 am

Loaf_of_bread wrote:Going against clips then phx in play-in could be our fate..and season ends without being in the playoffs. we can lose to anyone in 1 game, but that scenario has been going through my head.

No chance we would lose to Phoenix.
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Post#1010 » by TimberKat » Sat Mar 22, 2025 3:54 am

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Loaf_of_bread wrote:Going against clips then phx in play-in could be our fate..and season ends without being in the playoffs. we can lose to anyone in 1 game, but that scenario has been going through my head.

No chance we would lose to Phoenix.

No chance we play the angry birds. SAC and DAL are lock in that fight. We will be either home or away vs LAx. GSW maybe in trouble with Curry out.
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Post#1011 » by winforlose » Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:56 am

Memphis now has 28 losses. If we can beat them that is 29. They have 10 more besides us. Those games include OKC, Boston, LAL, GSW, Det, Denver, Miami (whose draft situation is much better if they can catch the Magic for the 8 seed and win a play in game,) and the Mavs (very much still in the running for 10th and a hope of the 8 seed.) If we beat the Griz they will still have the head to head tie breaker over us. At 29 losses and with us at 31, we need to win 3 more games than them, or get into a favorable 3 way tie. Doable, maybe?
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Post#1012 » by TimberKat » Sat Mar 22, 2025 1:17 pm

winforlose wrote:Memphis now has 28 losses. If we can beat them that is 29. They have 10 more besides us. Those games include OKC, Boston, LAL, GSW, Det, Denver, Miami (whose draft situation is much better if they can catch the Magic for the 8 seed and win a play in game,) and the Mavs (very much still in the running for 10th and a hope of the 8 seed.) If we beat the Griz they will still have the head to head tie breaker over us. At 29 losses and with us at 31, we need to win 3 more games than them, or get into a favorable 3 way tie. Doable, maybe?

If we didn't lose to them 127-125 or 108-106 then we have a chance. Wolves are very much locked into #7 or #8 at this point. Unless some major injuries to some of those teams.
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Post#1013 » by winforlose » Sat Mar 22, 2025 1:53 pm

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winforlose wrote:Memphis now has 28 losses. If we can beat them that is 29. They have 10 more besides us. Those games include OKC, Boston, LAL, GSW, Det, Denver, Miami (whose draft situation is much better if they can catch the Magic for the 8 seed and win a play in game,) and the Mavs (very much still in the running for 10th and a hope of the 8 seed.) If we beat the Griz they will still have the head to head tie breaker over us. At 29 losses and with us at 31, we need to win 3 more games than them, or get into a favorable 3 way tie. Doable, maybe?

If we didn't lose to them 127-125 or 108-106 then we have a chance. Wolves are very much locked into #7 or #8 at this point. Unless some major injuries to some of those teams.


I call… to soon to call it. You are assuming we cannot finish 8-2 or 9-1. If we do then the chance of being 6th is probably between 40-60%. I could easily see Memphis losing 5 games. I could see GSW losing 4, and the Clippers losing 3-4, (Clippers have it easiest, but they also have makeup games which means more jammed packed.) Don’t let pessimism cloud the reality of the situation. How likely is it that 6th place has more than 50 wins?

P.S. this is a question because I don’t know the answer (Have we ever seen a season where the 6th seed in a conference had 50 wins or better?
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Post#1014 » by TimberKat » Sat Mar 22, 2025 3:29 pm

winforlose wrote:
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winforlose wrote:Memphis now has 28 losses. If we can beat them that is 29. They have 10 more besides us. Those games include OKC, Boston, LAL, GSW, Det, Denver, Miami (whose draft situation is much better if they can catch the Magic for the 8 seed and win a play in game,) and the Mavs (very much still in the running for 10th and a hope of the 8 seed.) If we beat the Griz they will still have the head to head tie breaker over us. At 29 losses and with us at 31, we need to win 3 more games than them, or get into a favorable 3 way tie. Doable, maybe?

If we didn't lose to them 127-125 or 108-106 then we have a chance. Wolves are very much locked into #7 or #8 at this point. Unless some major injuries to some of those teams.


I call… to soon to call it. You are assuming we cannot finish 8-2 or 9-1. If we do then the chance of being 6th is probably between 40-60%. I could easily see Memphis losing 5 games. I could see GSW losing 4, and the Clippers losing 3-4, (Clippers have it easiest, but they also have makeup games which means more jammed packed.) Don’t let pessimism cloud the reality of the situation. How likely is it that 6th place has more than 50 wins?

P.S. this is a question because I don’t know the answer (Have we ever seen a season where the 6th seed in a conference had 50 wins or better?

For reference: last year 6-49, 7-49, 8-47: 2023-44,43,42: 2022: 48,46,42.

We burned our easy schedule. 6 of the last 10 are playoff teams. How likely are we going 8-2 or 9-1? Also don't have tie break advantage on LAL, GSW, and MEM. Go 7-3 or 6-4 puts us right at 7-8 spot.
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Post#1015 » by minimus » Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:43 pm

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Post#1016 » by Klomp » Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:44 pm

minimus wrote:
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Deni Avdija and Andrew Nembhard are two guys I wanted to see in MIN uniform before Towns trade.

High level role players on bargain contracts. But we did add one ourselves in that trade in Donte.
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Post#1017 » by winforlose » Sat Mar 22, 2025 10:03 pm

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winforlose wrote:
TimberKat wrote:If we didn't lose to them 127-125 or 108-106 then we have a chance. Wolves are very much locked into #7 or #8 at this point. Unless some major injuries to some of those teams.


I call… to soon to call it. You are assuming we cannot finish 8-2 or 9-1. If we do then the chance of being 6th is probably between 40-60%. I could easily see Memphis losing 5 games. I could see GSW losing 4, and the Clippers losing 3-4, (Clippers have it easiest, but they also have makeup games which means more jammed packed.) Don’t let pessimism cloud the reality of the situation. How likely is it that 6th place has more than 50 wins?

P.S. this is a question because I don’t know the answer (Have we ever seen a season where the 6th seed in a conference had 50 wins or better?

For reference: last year 6-49, 7-49, 8-47: 2023-44,43,42: 2022: 48,46,42.

We burned our easy schedule. 6 of the last 10 are playoff teams. How likely are we going 8-2 or 9-1? Also don't have tie break advantage on LAL, GSW, and MEM. Go 7-3 or 6-4 puts us right at 7-8 spot.


Have you noticed we tend to play poorly against the easy schedule and better against real competition? We have been owning Denver and they are banged up. Hopefully we are still juiced from the win and want revenge on Indy. Memphis is an opportunity. The other 7 don’t have that many tough ones. The Suns, Nets, Bucks, Pistons are all beatable. Sixers and Jazz are deep tank and are likely the most dangerous for us.
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Post#1018 » by winforlose » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:38 am

GSW just picked up loss #30.
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Post#1019 » by TimberKat » Sun Mar 23, 2025 2:24 am

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I call… to soon to call it. You are assuming we cannot finish 8-2 or 9-1. If we do then the chance of being 6th is probably between 40-60%. I could easily see Memphis losing 5 games. I could see GSW losing 4, and the Clippers losing 3-4, (Clippers have it easiest, but they also have makeup games which means more jammed packed.) Don’t let pessimism cloud the reality of the situation. How likely is it that 6th place has more than 50 wins?

P.S. this is a question because I don’t know the answer (Have we ever seen a season where the 6th seed in a conference had 50 wins or better?

For reference: last year 6-49, 7-49, 8-47: 2023-44,43,42: 2022: 48,46,42.

We burned our easy schedule. 6 of the last 10 are playoff teams. How likely are we going 8-2 or 9-1? Also don't have tie break advantage on LAL, GSW, and MEM. Go 7-3 or 6-4 puts us right at 7-8 spot.


Have you noticed we tend to play poorly against the easy schedule and better against real competition? We have been owning Denver and they are banged up. Hopefully we are still juiced from the win and want revenge on Indy. Memphis is an opportunity. The other 7 don’t have that many tough ones. The Suns, Nets, Bucks, Pistons are all beatable. Sixers and Jazz are deep tank and are likely the most dangerous for us.

We aren't all that much better vs above .500 teams. We are just worse than expected vs sub .500 teams.
Record vs over .500 : 58.6% 17-12
Record vs under .500: 55.8% 24-19
That basically is saying we will end up 6-4 because we can't expect to win all 4 games vs 2 BK, UTA, PHI :D
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Post#1020 » by winforlose » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:38 am

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winforlose wrote:
TimberKat wrote:For reference: last year 6-49, 7-49, 8-47: 2023-44,43,42: 2022: 48,46,42.

We burned our easy schedule. 6 of the last 10 are playoff teams. How likely are we going 8-2 or 9-1? Also don't have tie break advantage on LAL, GSW, and MEM. Go 7-3 or 6-4 puts us right at 7-8 spot.


Have you noticed we tend to play poorly against the easy schedule and better against real competition? We have been owning Denver and they are banged up. Hopefully we are still juiced from the win and want revenge on Indy. Memphis is an opportunity. The other 7 don’t have that many tough ones. The Suns, Nets, Bucks, Pistons are all beatable. Sixers and Jazz are deep tank and are likely the most dangerous for us.

We aren't all that much better vs above .500 teams. We are just worse than expected vs sub .500 teams.
Record vs over .500 : 58.6% 17-12
Record vs under .500: 55.8% 24-19
That basically is saying we will end up 6-4 because we can't expect to win all 4 games vs 2 BK, UTA, PHI :D


Okay let’s call this worst case 6-4, best case 9-1, with something in the middle being 8-2. We are 1 game back of both LAC and GSW. As I said before a 3 way tie can favor us. Plus Memphis is on a skid and Ja is out. Who knows what happens there. Plus after a game on Sunday we get 4 full days rest. That should help with the tired legs.

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