2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9

[VaDe255]

For tank commanders, remind you of, Michael Beasley.

Do you have to get incredibly lucky or what?

You don't, the higher you draft, the more likely you are to hit on a franchise changing player, remember that Dwayne Wade guy at 5?

[SA37]

For tank commanders, remind you of, Michael Beasley.

Do you have to get incredibly lucky or what?

You don't, the higher you draft, the more likely you are to hit on a franchise changing player, remember that Dwayne Wade guy at 5?

A friendly reminder: Riley had to be talked out of Chris Kaman at 5.

In any case, having a higher pick gives you better odds of getting a better player, but the process is subject to human error that can be found in every Draft. Remember when Minnesota picked Ricky Rubio at 5 and Jonny Flynn at 6 just before Golden State selected some cat named Curry?

And even if you pick the "right" guy, **** happens. Just look at Zion or Anthony Davis with the Pels or John Wall with the Wizards.

Even when you get the Draft right over several years, **** happens: just look at OKC who hit the jackpot with Durant, Westbrook, and Harden in successive drafts? Then Harden left...then Durant left.....

More important that who Miami might pick, Miami is going to likely end up with a top-10 lottery pick and another pick around 20, giving them trade chips to improve the roster.

[eddieheatfan]

For tank commanders, remind you of, Michael Beasley.

Do you have to get incredibly lucky or what?

You don't, the higher you draft, the more likely you are to hit on a franchise changing player, remember that Dwayne Wade guy at 5?

A friendly reminder: Riley had to be talked out of Chris Kaman at 5.

In any case, having a higher pick gives you better odds of getting a better player, but the process is subject to human error that can be found in every Draft. Remember when Minnesota picked Ricky Rubio at 5 and Jonny Flynn at 6 just before Golden State selected some cat named Curry?

And even if you pick the "right" guy, **** happens. Just look at Zion or Anthony Davis with the Pels or John Wall with the Wizards.

Even when you get the Draft right over several years, **** happens: just look at OKC who hit the jackpot with Durant, Westbrook, and Harden in successive drafts? Then Harden left...then Durant left.....

More important that who Miami might pick, Miami is going to likely end up with a top-10 lottery pick and another pick around 20, giving them trade chips to improve the roster.

yeah good points but we are screwed either way. this org has to blow it up because despite of the tank. what they have its not working, coaches included

[SA37]

Spoiler:

You don't, the higher you draft, the more likely you are to hit on a franchise changing player, remember that Dwayne Wade guy at 5?

A friendly reminder: Riley had to be talked out of Chris Kaman at 5.

In any case, having a higher pick gives you better odds of getting a better player, but the process is subject to human error that can be found in every Draft. Remember when Minnesota picked Ricky Rubio at 5 and Jonny Flynn at 6 just before Golden State selected some cat named Curry?

And even if you pick the "right" guy, **** happens. Just look at Zion or Anthony Davis with the Pels or John Wall with the Wizards.

Even when you get the Draft right over several years, **** happens: just look at OKC who hit the jackpot with Durant, Westbrook, and Harden in successive drafts? Then Harden left...then Durant left.....

More important that who Miami might pick, Miami is going to likely end up with a top-10 lottery pick and another pick around 20, giving them trade chips to improve the roster.

yeah good points but we are screwed either way. this org has to blow it up because despite of the tank. what they have its not working, coaches included

I disagree.

The star you draft will leave your franchise if you don't build a competitive team around them. The other side of that coin is that no FA is going to sign with you if you don't already have guys in place that they feel can help them win a championship. The reason Miami is always on star players' lists as a FA destination has a lot to do with the fact Miami always fields a competitive team with good role players they develop internally.

If Miami can get Durant, suddenly Miami becomes a legit title contender for the next 2-3 seasons. Everyone who is excited about Jovic, Ware, Herro's improvement...etc, have to realize this is because of Miami's coaching staff. Spoelstra seems to be held in high regard by the best players in the L. Don't underestimate that.

The difference between Miami and the franchises that came into the league at roughly the same time (Orlando, Minnesota, Toronto, Vancouver, and the Charlotte Hornets) has largely been due to management's refusal to tank + shrewd trades -- and this despite Miami losing Mourning and then Bosh to medical issues and LeBron leaving in 2014. (What happened when Orlando lost Shaq to FA and then cycled through injury-plagued stars, like Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, and Tracy McGrady?)

[Moneyball_Spo]

You don't, the higher you draft, the more likely you are to hit on a franchise changing player, remember that Dwayne Wade guy at 5?

A friendly reminder: Riley had to be talked out of Chris Kaman at 5.

In any case, having a higher pick gives you better odds of getting a better player, but the process is subject to human error that can be found in every Draft. Remember when Minnesota picked Ricky Rubio at 5 and Jonny Flynn at 6 just before Golden State selected some cat named Curry?

And even if you pick the "right" guy, **** happens. Just look at Zion or Anthony Davis with the Pels or John Wall with the Wizards.

Even when you get the Draft right over several years, **** happens: just look at OKC who hit the jackpot with Durant, Westbrook, and Harden in successive drafts? Then Harden left...then Durant left.....

More important that who Miami might pick, Miami is going to likely end up with a top-10 lottery pick and another pick around 20, giving them trade chips to improve the roster.

yeah good points but we are screwed either way. this org has to blow it up because despite of the tank. what they have its not working, coaches included

Coaches included? Yall young cats are soo eager to get rid of coaches. Cotdam microwave generation. Outside of Kerr and Pop, there is no better coach. Besides, he can only coach what he has. Miami needs real talent, not undrafted g league players. Why do you think Spo has to come up with all these schemes? He has no top end talent, yet his teams still compete.

Contrary to popular opinion, he took jimmy bum a%^ to 2 finals and a possible 3rd with no talent on the roster only coaching. jimmy had top flight talent and NEVER sniffed the finals. He had Kat, Embid, Wade etc. He comes here, Struss, Vincent, and Gogi and goes farther than he ever has. Miami has'nt had a top pick in over 20 years and has made the playoffs 25 out of 37 years. You can't say that about 95% of the organizations.

Comparing us to teams that get top picks every year and squander it, is a huge slap in the face. Our undrafted talent out perform them because of incredible coaching and development. Give Miami Zion, Durant, Davis on a Spo coached team and watch us dominate for years.

[Moneyball_Spo]

Spoiler:

A friendly reminder: Riley had to be talked out of Chris Kaman at 5.

In any case, having a higher pick gives you better odds of getting a better player, but the process is subject to human error that can be found in every Draft. Remember when Minnesota picked Ricky Rubio at 5 and Jonny Flynn at 6 just before Golden State selected some cat named Curry?

And even if you pick the "right" guy, **** happens. Just look at Zion or Anthony Davis with the Pels or John Wall with the Wizards.

Even when you get the Draft right over several years, **** happens: just look at OKC who hit the jackpot with Durant, Westbrook, and Harden in successive drafts? Then Harden left...then Durant left.....

More important that who Miami might pick, Miami is going to likely end up with a top-10 lottery pick and another pick around 20, giving them trade chips to improve the roster.

yeah good points but we are screwed either way. this org has to blow it up because despite of the tank. what they have its not working, coaches included

I disagree.

The star you draft will leave your franchise if you don't build a competitive team around them. The other side of that coin is that no FA is going to sign with you if you don't already have guys in place that they feel can help them win a championship. The reason Miami is always on star players' lists as a FA destination has a lot to do with the fact Miami always fields a competitive team with good role players they develop internally.

If Miami can get Durant, suddenly Miami becomes a legit title contender for the next 2-3 seasons. Everyone who is excited about Jovic, Ware, Herro's improvement...etc, have to realize this is because of Miami's coaching staff. Spoelstra seems to be held in high regard by the best players in the L. Don't underestimate that.

The difference between Miami and the franchises that came into the league at roughly the same time (Orlando, Minnesota, Toronto, Vancouver, and the Charlotte Hornets) has largely been due to management's refusal to tank + shrewd trades -- and this despite Miami losing Mourning and then Bosh to medical issues and LeBron leaving in 2014. (What happened when Orlando lost Shaq to FA and then cycled through injury-plagued stars, like Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, and Tracy McGrady?)

People really do gloss over these facts. If these things did'nt happened, who knows how many more championship banner might be hanging in the rafters.

[Flash4thewin]

Spoiler:

yeah good points but we are screwed either way. this org has to blow it up because despite of the tank. what they have its not working, coaches included

I disagree.

The star you draft will leave your franchise if you don't build a competitive team around them. The other side of that coin is that no FA is going to sign with you if you don't already have guys in place that they feel can help them win a championship. The reason Miami is always on star players' lists as a FA destination has a lot to do with the fact Miami always fields a competitive team with good role players they develop internally.

If Miami can get Durant, suddenly Miami becomes a legit title contender for the next 2-3 seasons. Everyone who is excited about Jovic, Ware, Herro's improvement...etc, have to realize this is because of Miami's coaching staff. Spoelstra seems to be held in high regard by the best players in the L. Don't underestimate that.

The difference between Miami and the franchises that came into the league at roughly the same time (Orlando, Minnesota, Toronto, Vancouver, and the Charlotte Hornets) has largely been due to management's refusal to tank + shrewd trades -- and this despite Miami losing Mourning and then Bosh to medical issues and LeBron leaving in 2014. (What happened when Orlando lost Shaq to FA and then cycled through injury-plagued stars, like Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, and Tracy McGrady?)

People really do gloss over these facts. If these things did'nt happened, who knows how many more championship banner might be hanging in the rafters.

Honestly we would have Zero championships. That Zo team would lose to the Lakers with ease. Bosh with Wade in his decline condition weren’t going far. I would take the LeBron Cavs over the Heat, and then the Warriors would just feast on that Bosh lead team if it ever lucked into the finals. Those are probably the worst examples of what if one can have. A better what if is Shaq first year here, if Wade doesn’t get hurt we win a ring that year.

[twix2500]

I disagree.

The star you draft will leave your franchise if you don't build a competitive team around them. The other side of that coin is that no FA is going to sign with you if you don't already have guys in place that they feel can help them win a championship. The reason Miami is always on star players' lists as a FA destination has a lot to do with the fact Miami always fields a competitive team with good role players they develop internally.

If Miami can get Durant, suddenly Miami becomes a legit title contender for the next 2-3 seasons. Everyone who is excited about Jovic, Ware, Herro's improvement...etc, have to realize this is because of Miami's coaching staff. Spoelstra seems to be held in high regard by the best players in the L. Don't underestimate that.

The difference between Miami and the franchises that came into the league at roughly the same time (Orlando, Minnesota, Toronto, Vancouver, and the Charlotte Hornets) has largely been due to management's refusal to tank + shrewd trades -- and this despite Miami losing Mourning and then Bosh to medical issues and LeBron leaving in 2014. (What happened when Orlando lost Shaq to FA and then cycled through injury-plagued stars, like Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, and Tracy McGrady?)

People really do gloss over these facts. If these things did'nt happened, who knows how many more championship banner might be hanging in the rafters.

Honestly we would have Zero championships. That Zo team would lose to the Lakers with ease. Bosh with Wade in his decline condition weren’t going far. I would take the LeBron Cavs over the Heat, and then the Warriors would just feast on that Bosh lead team if it ever lucked into the finals. Those are probably the worst examples of what if one can have. A better what if is Shaq first year here, if Wade doesn’t get hurt we win a ring that year.

I dont know about that a healthy Hardaway, Jones, Ceballos, Grant and Zo starting lineup is a beast with Bruce Bowens, House, Carter, Thunder Dan and Mason coming off the bench is a beast if healthy. They went 52 and 32 without Zo and Hardaway in and out

[gom]

Terry Rozier (103/116 = ORTG/DRTG) making sure the tank is working:



This is fun...

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Blazers throttled the Nuggets last night. Teams are starting to put some distance in between us. Keep it up!

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Out of our 41 losses we had double digit leads in 20 of them

[MettaWorldPanda]

Read on Twitter

Chit made me sick watching it live and hearing him yell in pain on the floor after it happened. Couldn’t believe he stayed in the game after. He had to have at very least sprained it. The replay in the jumbotron had everyone gasping when Thompson landed on that knee. He needs to just sit out even if it’s just minor. Call up Keshad

[MettaWorldPanda]

Tyler was getting absolutely bullied last night by the Rockets. He couldn’t handle it. Looked really soft last night. One point he got ripped and looked like a sad puppy lol. FVV and Thompson were out for blood

[Lennyzinho]

Blazers throttled the Nuggets last night. Teams are starting to put some distance in between us. Keep it up!

More importantly the Spurs won, so now we have the 8th worst record.

Would love Bam missing a few games or the rest of the season. I'm so glad he didn't get hurt seriously. I watched it live and I was like ohhh mannnn. Scary stuff when the dude fell on top of him. Bam is such a freak to stay in and play the rest of the game like nbd.

And yeah, Tyler got bullied by FVV and Brooks and Thompson bad... he's just not athletic enough. Wiggins got owned a couple times also. Rockets are a good young team.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Blazers throttled the Nuggets last night. Teams are starting to put some distance in between us. Keep it up!

More importantly the Spurs won, so now we have the 8th worst record.

Would love Bam missing a few games or the rest of the season. I'm so glad he didn't get hurt seriously. I watched it live and I was like ohhh mannnn. Scary stuff when the dude fell on top of him. Bam is such a freak to stay in and play the rest of the game like nbd.

And yeah, Tyler got bullied by FVV and Brooks and Thompson bad... he's just not athletic enough. Wiggins got owned a couple times also. Rockets are a good young team.

I agree with you and MWP, time to shut him down. If we shut him and maybe Wiggins down we could lose out on our schedule tbh and at that point we may get jumped by at least 1 of the Raptors Sixers (who we play twice) and the Nets.

Yea they were exposing Tyler. He couldn’t get looks offensively then defensively they just picked on him the whole time and blew by him for easy buckets. He’s a very easy target

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Ask out Edrice, we will celebrate your championships in OKC with you while we pray for success in the draft

[MettaWorldPanda]

If a trade opens up with Utah that we can deal Tyler for Sexton and Clarkson i’m taking it. I’m sure Don Cartagena will save this receipt lol. Especially if we draft Edgecombe.

SG VJ Edgecombe SG Jordan Clarkson
PG Collin Sexton PG Davion Mitchell

Not too shabby of a backcourt if you ask me

[MettaWorldPanda]

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The old man ain’t never dealing Tyler

[DayofMourning]

Out of our 41 losses we had double digit leads in 20 of them

Spo the real tankmaster.

[heatwillbeback]

Didnt notice this until today, but Marcus Garrett made it back to the league. First time since he played for us in 2022.

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4277892/marcus-garrett

I like seeing our old projects make it up/back.