OT: NFL 24-25 Thread Cont'd

[MrDollarBills]

This is a sensible move.

We aren't winning next year so let's just air the ball out and have fun

[MrDollarBills]

So our options are:

If Cleveland and Tennessee take both QBs, draft either Hunter or Abdul Carter

If Shedeur falls, take him at 3 and let him sit behind Jameis.

Pick who is left between Hunter and Abdul Carter if you don't think Shedeur is worth #3 if Ward is off the board.

I'm fine with these options but I still say go BPA. We are picking top 10 next year.

[GONYK]

Jameis baby!!

LET THE BALL FLY

[TerrenceClarke]

Finally. I was hoping we didn’t lose out on him.

If Daboll wants to have the claim of “whisperer” getting JW to cut down on Ints would go a long way to make viable. The odds are mad low but still….

It can be a fun year at minimum.

Get SS in the wings and its litty.

[mpharris36]

put the kids down and came back down to this news. Very happy here. I was getting worried they were going after Russ and I wanted no part of him. Keep things interesting in the QB room and on the field until we find a QB of the future whether be it in Round 1 or later.

WR room will be happy.

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[TerrenceClarke]

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It’s BS to me. To much money would be invested in QBs who are short term.

They Keeping a rumor alive for the algorithm sake.

[mpharris36]

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It’s BS to me. To much money would be invested in QBs who are short term.

They Keeping a rumor alive for the algorithm sake.

Garafolo is pretty tied in especially since he covered the Giants in the past.

There is still a real possibility that both QB's are off the board before we pick at #3.

It could be BS as well either way we needed someone in the QB room and couldnt just wait for Rodgers forever so I understand that.

Winston is making backup money though its 2 years 8 MM (4 per year). It can up to 16 MM (8 mill per) with incentive playing time. But for perspective 2 years 8 MM is less per year than they paid Drew Lock last year.

I think it at least covers us in a lot of different scenarios because we don't control our own destiny in signing Rodgers or picking one of the top 2 QB's.

[DaGawd]

don’t really see the need for rodgers with jameis on board but we’ll see.

[TerrenceClarke]

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found this interesting....

It’s BS to me. To much money would be invested in QBs who are short term.

They Keeping a rumor alive for the algorithm sake.

Garafolo is pretty tied in especially since he covered the Giants in the past.

There is still a real possibility that both QB's are off the board before we pick at #3.

It could be BS as well either way we needed someone in the QB room and couldnt just wait for Rodgers forever so I understand that.

Winston is making backup money though its 2 years 8 MM (4 per year). It can up to 16 MM (8 mill per) with incentive playing time. But for perspective 2 years 8 MM is less per year than they paid Drew Lock last year.

I think it at least covers us in a lot of different scenarios because we don't control our own destiny in signing Rodgers or picking one of the top 2 QB's.

To me it doesn’t matter if both QBs are gone. It’s overkill with Rodgers.

JW is fine enough. Investing time and money in Rodgers when the dude can hardly stay healthy is crazy.

Giants are suckers cause they want a QB that don’t want you. Rodgers is playing games. The irony with how much of a lighting rod Rodgers is. He can be they down fall ,cause he can make the descion to even sign him dumb.



To sign Winston and then chase Rodgers is embrassing and is a early nail in their coffin.

I think it’s just click bait cause they need traction till the draft and by just resigning that JW is the QB, slows the traction down.

[mpharris36]

It’s BS to me. To much money would be invested in QBs who are short term.

They Keeping a rumor alive for the algorithm sake.

Garafolo is pretty tied in especially since he covered the Giants in the past.

There is still a real possibility that both QB's are off the board before we pick at #3.

It could be BS as well either way we needed someone in the QB room and couldnt just wait for Rodgers forever so I understand that.

Winston is making backup money though its 2 years 8 MM (4 per year). It can up to 16 MM (8 mill per) with incentive playing time. But for perspective 2 years 8 MM is less per year than they paid Drew Lock last year.

I think it at least covers us in a lot of different scenarios because we don't control our own destiny in signing Rodgers or picking one of the top 2 QB's.

To me it doesn’t matter if both QBs are gone. It’s overkill with Rodgers.

JW is fine enough. Investing time and money in Rodgers when the dude can hardly stay healthy is crazy.

Giants are suckers cause they want a QB that don’t want you. Rodgers is playing games. The irony with how much of a lighting rod Rodgers is. He can be they down fall ,cause he can make the descion to even sign him dumb.



To sign Winston and then chase Rodgers is embrassing and is a early nail in their coffin.

I think it’s just click bait cause they need traction till the draft and by just resigning that JW is the QB, slows the traction down.

We are on the same page but lookin at it from the owner/HC/GM position the simple logic behind the interest for Stafford and now Rodgers pursuit of the most wins next year.

See we don't care about the wins column next year because we see the big picture. A GM/HC on the hot seat are going to be looking near term. I agree Winston is a more than fine bridge guy whether they get a QB in round 1 or later. So I am more than cool with that. But we also know he's not going to change much in the W/L column because you don't win games in the NFL with high turnovers. But the WR room will love him, I know from a personal stand point I will enjoy it because it will be cool to see a QB actually push the ball down the field with anticipation even though it will lead to INT's.

Like you mentioned Rodgers is 41 and might not stay healthy so getting Winston a guy with starters history is good even as a high level backup.

It just fills a lot of roles. Winston is a good locker room guy and bridge guy to a rookie, if you want to go another vet QB his 4 MM a year deal doesn't prevent you from adding another vet QB either.

Overall its just a good deal that leaves the Giants with options before the draft...which is a good thing.

[TerrenceClarke]

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Playing mad games.

[ScienceOfLosing]

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Perfect vet QB. Good signing, he’ll be entertaining and will sit when it’s time to play the QB they draft this year.

Better option then Wilson, Rodgers or Flacco.

My only real problem with Winston is that he is not optimal to learn from for our rookie QB.
No problem with a bridge QB. He will add some excitement.
But his high interception rate shows his game IQ, not good as a mentor imo.

[DOT]

I think that's a good signing for y'all

He's good enough that you don't need to reach on a QB at 3 if both Ward and Shedeur are gone, but not good enough that you can't justify taking one if they're there

Honestly, best case scenario for y'all is both QBs go 1 and 2, you take one of Carter/Hunter, Winston loses you a ton of games, and you go into the offseason with a full reset in the FO, some foundational pieces, and still a high draft pick to take a QB.

[MrDollarBills]

I think that's a good signing for y'all

He's good enough that you don't need to reach on a QB at 3 if both Ward and Shedeur are gone, but not good enough that you can't justify taking one if they're there

Honestly, best case scenario for y'all is both QBs go 1 and 2, you take one of Carter/Hunter, Winston loses you a ton of games, and you go into the offseason with a full reset in the FO, some foundational pieces, and still a high draft pick to take a QB.

This is literally what needs to happen i think.

The QB pool for next year is a lot deeper. Getting another major talent irregardless of position to go along with Nabers, Dex, and Thomas would be a step in the right direction. If Ward or Sanders drop, fine, but if not I'm cool with Hunter or Carter and letting Jameis lead the tank.

[MrDollarBills]

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Perfect vet QB. Good signing, he’ll be entertaining and will sit when it’s time to play the QB they draft this year.

Better option then Wilson, Rodgers or Flacco.

My only real problem with Winston is that he is not optimal to learn from for our rookie QB.
No problem with a bridge QB. He will add some excitement.
But his high interception rate shows his game IQ, not good as a mentor imo.

If we get Shedeur i doubt Winston will hinder his progress, the one thing I'm not concerned about is Shedeur being reckless with the ball. He's a really smart kid and I think Daboll will work with him.

I'm more concerned about Sanders holding the ball too long and taking unnecessary hits than I am about him throwing picks tbh

[MrDollarBills]

don’t really see the need for rodgers with jameis on board but we’ll see.

I see zero reason to bring him in here unless Schoen is that desperate to win 7 games to save his job.

Honestly, Mara's mandate for winning is so stupid. If you believe that these guys can turn it around, give them the room to do it, otherwise you should have fired them because there is no way in hell we are winning next season against that schedule regardless of who we draft.

The focus should be continuing to draft talent, incremental improvement on both sides, and developing the young guys on this roster.

I think our defense should be better. I don't expect to be bad as last season, but we aren't gonna win much. Which works for us because we need another high end draft pick.

[DOT]

The QB pool for next year is a lot deeper.

I feel like we always say this though.

[FrozenEnvelope]

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Winston is best QB left in free agency imo in terms of overall skill, entertainment and locker room effect. He can still sling it and has a funny personality which helps in the short term when your team is a dumpster fire. I don't think he will cause much drama when it's time to sit and start the rookie QB should we draft one. But those 3 INT games are going to be painful to watch.

[FrozenEnvelope]

don’t really see the need for rodgers with jameis on board but we’ll see.

I still don't get why we are even interested in Rodgers. You do not bring his drama and baggage and all the extra **** that comes with him to a bad team like we are. I'd be fine with Wilson but he's cooked.