**NBA Draft Discussion 2025**

[greg4012]

I saw some people saying Fears is small for an NBA player and I don't see it. He's listed at 6'4 and will definitely bulk up.

I'd be surprised if he's 6'4 today. I'd expect closer to 6'2 or 6'3. But he seems to have a decent wingspan and build to fill in. He just looks like a 16 year old when the camera zooms in on him and that makes him "seem" smaller to some people's perceptions imo.

The fact that he doesn't seem fully filled in/developed just gives more juice to his upside case. Imagine him using that same burst and handle to get into the paint, but with an additional 15 to 20 pounds on him to impose physicality. His older brother--Jeremy Fears--is 18 months older than him. Jeremy is listed at 6'2 190 pounds at MSU after being listed 6'0 and 180 pounds as a HS recruit 2 seasons ago. His undeveloped frame fuels my being able to dismiss his poor rim finishing numbers.

Fast forward 2-3 years and I expect him to be a perfectly normal sized NBA PG with great burst/athleticism.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I saw some people saying Fears is small for an NBA player and I don't see it. He's listed at 6'4 and will definitely bulk up.

I'd be surprised if he's 6'4 today. I'd expect closer to 6'2 or 6'3. But he seems to have a decent wingspan and build to fill in. He just looks like a 16 year old when the camera zooms in on him and that makes him "seem" smaller to some people's perceptions imo.

The fact that he doesn't seem fully filled in/developed just gives more juice to his upside case. Imagine him using that same burst and handle to get into the paint, but with an additional 15 to 20 pounds on him to impose physicality. His older brother--Jeremy Fears--is 18 months older than him. Jeremy is listed at 6'2 190 pounds at MSU after being listed 6'0 and 180 pounds as a HS recruit 2 seasons ago. His undeveloped frame fuels my being able to dismiss his poor rim finishing numbers.

Fast forward 2-3 years and I expect him to be a perfectly normal sized NBA PG with great burst/athleticism.

He will need a solid vet mentor here in the backcourt as a bridge. Maybe a Malcolm Brogden type.

[greg4012]

Dailyn Swain is an interesting potential target for Miami's pick from GS in the 20s. 6'7 wing with high level versatile defense and athleticism on the perimeter. He has no 3 ball currently, but he shoots over 80% from the FT line and has a really strong handle that allows him to navigate the floor like a guard and run PnR at an elite rate (92nd percentile).

I'll take the gamble on the upside of getting an athlete with that level of defensive impact and handle to become a passable NBA 3 pt shooter given his FT shooting.

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[greg4012]

Will Riley can shoot the daylights out of the ball and has great length for a wing. He’s the anti Jaime

Def another one to watch

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[DayofMourning]

I saw some people saying Fears is small for an NBA player and I don't see it. He's listed at 6'4 and will definitely bulk up.

I'd be surprised if he's 6'4 today. I'd expect closer to 6'2 or 6'3. But he seems to have a decent wingspan and build to fill in. He just looks like a 16 year old when the camera zooms in on him and that makes him "seem" smaller to some people's perceptions imo.

The fact that he doesn't seem fully filled in/developed just gives more juice to his upside case. Imagine him using that same burst and handle to get into the paint, but with an additional 15 to 20 pounds on him to impose physicality. His older brother--Jeremy Fears--is 18 months older than him. Jeremy is listed at 6'2 190 pounds at MSU after being listed 6'0 and 180 pounds as a HS recruit 2 seasons ago. His undeveloped frame fuels my being able to dismiss his poor rim finishing numbers.

Fast forward 2-3 years and I expect him to be a perfectly normal sized NBA PG with great burst/athleticism.

Yeah, def looks 6'2" to me.

Feels like the norm for guards to magically gain 2 inches though.

Regardless, the skillset is sweet. Hes not undersized. Sure, I wish he was 6'8", but theres always going to be something a prospect lacks to be perfect.

[Moneyball_Spo]

I believe there should be a discussion about moving Tyler, if we don't get a top 2 pick. Edgecombe, Knueppel, Johnson can spell his replacement. They play thru physicality and have more upside. They are able to create their own shot. Watching Bayler, Edgecombe seems just as advertised. He looks bigger than listed. While watching Duke, I could not help but watch Knueppel. He is a very physical player and I believe he is right up there on the Heats list. Tre Johnson is a straight baller. This guys plays with a lot of confidence. I'm curious what Tyler would fetch in the trade market. BTW Bayler plays Duke tomorrow.

[lastb1ckman]

I believe there should be a discussion about moving Tyler, if we don't get a top 2 pick. Edgecombe, Knueppel, Johnson can spell his replacement. They play thru physicality and have more upside. They are able to create their own shot. Watching Bayler, Edgecombe seems just as advertised. He looks bigger than listed. While watching Duke, I could not help but watch Knueppel. He is a very physical player and I believe he is right up there on the Heats list. Tre Johnson is a straight baller. This guys plays with a lot of confidence. I'm curious what Tyler would fetch in the trade market. BTW Bayler plays Duke tomorrow.

Knueppel?! I can see Edgecombe or Tre, but Knueppel? That's like trading Herro for a guy with Prime Joe Ingles potential. Maybe post acl klay Thompson

[Moneyball_Spo]

I believe there should be a discussion about moving Tyler, if we don't get a top 2 pick. Edgecombe, Knueppel, Johnson can spell his replacement. They play thru physicality and have more upside. They are able to create their own shot. Watching Bayler, Edgecombe seems just as advertised. He looks bigger than listed. While watching Duke, I could not help but watch Knueppel. He is a very physical player and I believe he is right up there on the Heats list. Tre Johnson is a straight baller. This guys plays with a lot of confidence. I'm curious what Tyler would fetch in the trade market. BTW Bayler plays Duke tomorrow.

Knueppel?! I can see Edgecombe or Tre, but Knueppel? That's like trading Herro for a guy with Prime Joe Ingles potential. Maybe post acl klay Thompson

I see that you are a Duke fan, so you might know more. Kon is physical and plays thru a lot of contact. He is definately overshadowed by Flagg so check him out today. The game starts in about an hour. Tell me what you think.

[Moneyball_Spo]

Edgecombe and Bayler vs Flagg/Kneuppel and Duke. Lets go!!

[lastb1ckman]

I believe there should be a discussion about moving Tyler, if we don't get a top 2 pick. Edgecombe, Knueppel, Johnson can spell his replacement. They play thru physicality and have more upside. They are able to create their own shot. Watching Bayler, Edgecombe seems just as advertised. He looks bigger than listed. While watching Duke, I could not help but watch Knueppel. He is a very physical player and I believe he is right up there on the Heats list. Tre Johnson is a straight baller. This guys plays with a lot of confidence. I'm curious what Tyler would fetch in the trade market. BTW Bayler plays Duke tomorrow.

Knueppel?! I can see Edgecombe or Tre, but Knueppel? That's like trading Herro for a guy with Prime Joe Ingles potential. Maybe post acl klay Thompson

I see that you are a Duke fan, so you might know more. Kon is physical and plays thru a lot of contact. He is definately overshadowed by Flagg so check him out today. The game starts in about an hour. Tell me what you think.

Knueppel had a great game, really woke up in the 2nd half. I still think he's probably a long time vet like a Joe Ingles or Bojan. Which is really good to get in the draft, just not somone I'd trade Herro for. Herro did make an allstar this year, I doubt Knueppel has that kind of ceiling.

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Crapped the bed vs Arkansas going 3/17 and getting benched. Jase Richardson also with a disappointing game against New Mexico.

[Moneyball_Spo]

Knueppel?! I can see Edgecombe or Tre, but Knueppel? That's like trading Herro for a guy with Prime Joe Ingles potential. Maybe post acl klay Thompson

I see that you are a Duke fan, so you might know more. Kon is physical and plays thru a lot of contact. He is definately overshadowed by Flagg so check him out today. The game starts in about an hour. Tell me what you think.

Knueppel had a great game, really woke up in the 2nd half. I still think he's probably a long time vet like a Joe Ingles or Bojan. Which is really good to get in the draft, just not somone I'd trade Herro for. Herro did make an allstar this year, I doubt Knueppel has that kind of ceiling.

Yeah, you are probably right. He does give Joe Ingles vibe. What do you think about Procter? Mock drafts have him 2nd round. Would you take a flyer on him?

[greg4012]

John Wall may be an interesting player comp for Jeremiah Fears

https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=jeremiah-fears--john-wall

Big difference is he's not as explosive at the rim--33 dunks for Wall vs 9 for Fears. But he's also a year younger/earlier in his physical development.

[lastb1ckman]

I see that you are a Duke fan, so you might know more. Kon is physical and plays thru a lot of contact. He is definately overshadowed by Flagg so check him out today. The game starts in about an hour. Tell me what you think.

Knueppel had a great game, really woke up in the 2nd half. I still think he's probably a long time vet like a Joe Ingles or Bojan. Which is really good to get in the draft, just not somone I'd trade Herro for. Herro did make an allstar this year, I doubt Knueppel has that kind of ceiling.

Yeah, you are probably right. He does give Joe Ingles vibe. What do you think about Procter? Mock drafts have him 2nd round. Would you take a flyer on him?

Oh mannnnn Tyrese, I'm so glad he's finally got everyone a bit back on his side again. 6'5" combo guard that can shoot and defend would be great on the Heat. I think he's a first rounder now. If the Heat don't get a PG with the lottery pick, I wouldn't mind picking him up with the 20s pick. He'd be a great developmental guy in the same vein as Gabe/Dru, except he's got actual size.

[Moneyball_Spo]

Knueppel had a great game, really woke up in the 2nd half. I still think he's probably a long time vet like a Joe Ingles or Bojan. Which is really good to get in the draft, just not somone I'd trade Herro for. Herro did make an allstar this year, I doubt Knueppel has that kind of ceiling.

Yeah, you are probably right. He does give Joe Ingles vibe. What do you think about Procter? Mock drafts have him 2nd round. Would you take a flyer on him?

Oh mannnnn Tyrese, I'm so glad he's finally got everyone a bit back on his side again. 6'5" combo guard that can shoot and defend would be great on the Heat. I think he's a first rounder now. If the Heat don't get a PG with the lottery pick, I wouldn't mind picking him up with the 20s pick. He'd be a great developmental guy in the same vein as Gabe/Dru, except he's got actual size.

Miami definately has to have a backup plan in case Fears in not there at 8. I'm curious who the fans would want if that were the case.

[Wiltside]

Fears certainly seems like he'd be the guy if we're picking around 8. Would tick a lot of boxes.

[Noodle Arm]

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Here's a full season highlight reel of Fears that was just uploaded. One thing I like is how genuinely happy he seems whenever he passes for an assist. Seems like a good team guy.

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I'm liking this kid. 6'9" 200lbs PG from Russia. I know he is projected in the mid to late teens, but he seems like an under the radar prospect. Thoughts?