Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[Bakomagic]

Here's one crazy idea.
Give Nets Suns swap ,Carter and KCP. Need more picks? Sure, give them Nuggets pick.

Take nothing in return

Use money to offer deals to Ty Jerome and Naz Reid.

I’m down for this idea. Two skilled dogs.

Naz would be great.

Ty would be good too, but he is certainly not a dog, except maybe a chihuahua.

[Skybox]

Here's one crazy idea.
Give Nets Suns swap ,Carter and KCP. Need more picks? Sure, give them Nuggets pick.

Take nothing in return

Use money to offer deals to Ty Jerome and Naz Reid.

I’m down for this idea. Two skilled dogs.

Naz would be great.

Ty would be good too, but he is certainly not a dog, except maybe a chihuahua.

Does Naz defend and board? Is he anoverpay-candidate role player masquerading as an undiscovered, undersized starting C…seriouslyasking, I havent seen a lot.

[Idiosyncratic]

Could we unload a bunch of junk to WAS for Poole - with that alluring PHX swap? Would they value unloading him? That high-upside move for a team at the near-bottom of a rebuild might appeal…and Poole is even more of a volatile piece than the guys incoming, he just fits better in ORL.

Another twist on Pepe’s BRK idea, but taking back Poole…

ORL sends: KCP, WCJ, Cole, Suns draft swap
WAS sends: Poole, AJ Johnson, Kispert

Don't the Wizards already have the rights to swap with the Suns? Like the Wizards get the better pick out of them and the Suns (As long as Wiz pick lands top 9 and let's be real...) and we get the next best out of those two?

They would get both then…and, maybe, add DEN pick…kind of depends on whether they see Poole as an important player or a very expensive placeholder that they’d prefer to divide up.

Ok, that makes sense, I feel stupid.

I don't hate the idea of Poole, but for me the appeal of him would be filling a need for a lower asset price point because he shouldn't have much trade value. I know dumping our contracts is doing the heavy value lifting here, but I hate using one of our best remaining assets (Suns swap) to do that. Wendell's contract is only a year longer than Poole's and I don't view Kispert as having significant value. That kind of player seems available at that price point every free agency. See; Hield, Kennard, Beasley.

Poole fills a need for us, but despite that I still don't think he would move the needle much. I wonder if there could be something around swapping our 15 for their Grizzlies 23rd pick for Poole or Kispert if they chose to go that route. I think my preference would just be for a different player.

[eyriq]

Thinking about the pick swap with Phoenix. The two things to track:

1. Are we better than the Suns?
2. Are the Wizards better than 8 other teams?

Dream scenario:
Phoenix wins the lottery and gets the #1 pick
Washington picks > #8

[Idiosyncratic]

Thinking about the pick swap with Phoenix. The two things to track:

1. Are we better than the Suns?
2. Are the Wizards better than 8 other teams?

Dream scenario:
Phoenix wins the lottery and gets the #1 pick
Washington picks > #8

I think we are better than the Suns next year partially because the West is so much better than the East. The Suns could be competent and still miss the playoffs. Wizards won't pick worse than 8, but yeah that would be awesome.

Most realistic IMO is we pick like 20-22 and the Suns pick in the 12-17 range. Pretty solid upgrade.

But there is also a very real possibility Durant declines and/or they trade him for a more rebuilding centered package and they pick top 10. That is a real possibility and the top of next years draft is looking pretty crazy.

Also a chance they are better than us of course. But regardless it still should have decent value based off what it could be. I would protect it if I traded it... Can you protect a swap?

[Skybox]

Don't the Wizards already have the rights to swap with the Suns? Like the Wizards get the better pick out of them and the Suns (As long as Wiz pick lands top 9 and let's be real...) and we get the next best out of those two?

They would get both then…and, maybe, add DEN pick…kind of depends on whether they see Poole as an important player or a very expensive placeholder that they’d prefer to divide up.

Ok, that makes sense, I feel stupid.

I don't hate the idea of Poole, but for me the appeal of him would be filling a need for a lower asset price point because he shouldn't have much trade value. I know dumping our contracts is doing the heavy value lifting here, but I hate using one of our best remaining assets (Suns swap) to do that. Wendell's contract is only a year longer than Poole's and I don't view Kispert as having significant value. That kind of player seems available at that price point every free agency. See; Hield, Kennard, Beasley.

Poole fills a need for us, but despite that I still don't think he would move the needle much. I wonder if there could be something around swapping our 15 for their Grizzlies 23rd pick for Poole or Kispert if they chose to go that route. I think my preference would just be for a different player.

Don’t feel bad - I didn’t realize it until you said it

Maybe it takes less draft equity…not sure how they feel about Poole today in WAS…his “horrifying deal” is really only 2yr for $66m, and you could argue his offensive output is near-elite THIS year….I dont want to battle on his behalf, but it’s not a Beal or even Lavine situation. Getting off those less dramatic, but collectively just as bad, extensions is significant and Poole might even blossom into an All-Star PG in the right spot- with the right defensive coverage and the right degree of versatility and personnel in the offensive scheme.

*I hate to think it, but Mose may not make it back

[Bensational]

What big names are people thinking get moved this offseason?

I’m looking at Durant, Booker, Embiid and Trae first. That’s some seismic movement in and of itself.

[the_process]

What do you guys think of Tyrese Maxey?

[thelead]

What do you guys think of Tyrese Maxey?

Would be a near perfect fit for the magic but I’m not sure what package sixers would want from the magic to get him. He’s worth an all-star package but I’d be afraid of sixers wanting a superstar return for him. His contract would also be problematic with Franz and Paolo also nearing their max salaries.

But from a pure basketball fit perspective, 100% yes.

[basketballRob]

What do you guys think of Tyrese Maxey?

Would be a near perfect fit for the magic but I’m not sure what package sixers would want from the magic to get him. He’s worth an all-star package but I’d be afraid of sixers wanting a superstar return for him. His contract would also be problematic with Franz and Paolo also nearing their max salaries.

But from a pure basketball fit perspective, 100% yes.

He's probably talking about Maxey and the 6th pick for Paolo.

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[Skybox]

Maxey is off the market…but I wonder about his understudy McCain…neither is big or much of a defender…smells like Dame/CJ

Given PHI’s current state, maybe there’s a deal they’d consider to balance the roster and collect equity for near future retooling

AB & a good frp? Or two?

[eyriq]

What big names are people thinking get moved this offseason?

I’m looking at Durant, Booker, Embiid and Trae first. That’s some seismic movement in and of itself.

Boston probably moves Jrue or Porzingis.

Phoenix definitely moves Durant or Booker.

New Orleans doesn't have to do anything but a Zion/Murray/McCollum core is pretty terrible.

Sacramento might rethink a Sabonis/LaVine core.

Edit: yeah, good call on Philly, they'd probably consider trading Embiid and would love to trade George.

I don't think Atlanta wants to trade Trae Young.

[MasterGMer]

What big names are people thinking get moved this offseason?

I’m looking at Durant, Booker, Embiid and Trae first. That’s some seismic movement in and of itself.

Boston probably moves Jrue or Porzingis.

Phoenix definitely moves Durant or Booker.

New Orleans doesn't have to do anything but a Zion/Murray/McCollum core is pretty terrible.

Sacramento might rethink a Sabonis/LaVine core.

Edit: yeah, good call on Philly, they'd probably consider trading Embiid and would love to trade George.

I don't think Atlanta wants to trade Trae Young.

Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant and Kevin Durant

[eyriq]

What would a trade for Jrue Holiday look like?

[BadMofoPimp]

Maxey is off the market…but I wonder about his understudy McCain…neither is big or much of a defender…smells like Dame/CJ

Given PHI’s current state, maybe there’s a deal they’d consider to balance the roster and collect equity for near future retooling

AB & a good frp? Or two?

Maybe to help facilitate a trade for Philly to get Durant.

[Idiosyncratic]

What would a trade for Jrue Holiday look like?

Complicated I think. Celtics goal is to save money, they probably just want to take on a smaller shorter deal playable rotation player and then have a 3rd team absorb the rest of the matching salary. 3rd team probably would be owed a draft pick asset from Celtics or Jrue acquiring team. I don't think the Magic are a good match.

[eyriq]

What would a trade for Jrue Holiday look like?

Complicated I think. Celtics goal is to save money, they probably just want to take on a smaller shorter deal playable rotation player and then have a 3rd team absorb the rest of the matching salary. 3rd team probably would be owed a draft pick asset from Celtics or Jrue acquiring team. I don't think the Magic are a good match.

I mean if we sent them our team options couldn't they just decline them after the trade? I don't know how that works.

[Idiosyncratic]

What would a trade for Jrue Holiday look like?

Complicated I think. Celtics goal is to save money, they probably just want to take on a smaller shorter deal playable rotation player and then have a 3rd team absorb the rest of the matching salary. 3rd team probably would be owed a draft pick asset from Celtics or Jrue acquiring team. I don't think the Magic are a good match.

I mean if we sent them our team options couldn't they just decline them after the trade? I don't know how that works.

You mean like Mo and Gary? I would assume option decision has to be made 1st, but I'm not positive honestly.

[basketballRob]

I think Holiday would retire after his contract of he was traded. He talked retirement a couple of years ago.

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[eyriq]

Complicated I think. Celtics goal is to save money, they probably just want to take on a smaller shorter deal playable rotation player and then have a 3rd team absorb the rest of the matching salary. 3rd team probably would be owed a draft pick asset from Celtics or Jrue acquiring team. I don't think the Magic are a good match.

I mean if we sent them our team options couldn't they just decline them after the trade? I don't know how that works.

You mean like Mo and Gary? I would assume option decision has to be made 1st, but I'm not positive honestly.

It seems that a team can decline the team option after trading for them as long as they trade for them before the deadline.