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Post#621 » by tski1972 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:12 am

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ReasonablySober wrote:And Marshfield just choked away their first state championship. Today was awful.

This game has me more pissed as a Marshfield grad.


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Post#622 » by MVP2110 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:16 am

Lost by 2 in a road game where BYU shot 46% from 3. Ultimately the defense wasn't good enough tonight.

But also the committee sucks
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Post#623 » by RiotPunch » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:18 am

MVP2110 wrote:Lost by 2 in a road game where BYU shot 46% from 3. Ultimately the defense wasn't good enough tonight.

But also the committee sucks

Such a slap in the face draw. Would have much rather been in Purdue's shoes as a 4 in Milwaukee.

But thems the breaks.
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Post#624 » by tski1972 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:20 am

Looking ahead, not sure what they’ll have next season.

Blackwell and Winter are only the two sure things. Will Freitag make an impact? Is Cam Hunter an option? Will Janicki learn to shoot? Can Amos make a leap?

Going to have to find at least two legit transfers in order to be a top half team in the conference imo.
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Post#625 » by chonestown » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:28 am

tski1972 wrote:Looking ahead, not sure what they’ll have next season.

Blackwell and Winter are only the two sure things. Will Freitag make an impact? Is Cam Hunter an option? Will Janicki learn to shoot? Can Amos make a leap?

Going to have to find at least two legit transfers in order to be a top half team in the conference imo.


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Post#626 » by BroncoBuck » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:54 am

tski1972 wrote:Looking ahead, not sure what they’ll have next season.

Blackwell and Winter are only the two sure things. Will Freitag make an impact? Is Cam Hunter an option? Will Janicki learn to shoot? Can Amos make a leap?

Going to have to find at least two legit transfers in order to be a top half team in the conference imo.


Reports indicate that the Badgers are in on a lot of transfers.
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Post#627 » by midranger » Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:10 am

tski1972 wrote:Looking ahead, not sure what they’ll have next season.

Blackwell and Winter are only the two sure things. Will Freitag make an impact? Is Cam Hunter an option? Will Janicki learn to shoot? Can Amos make a leap?

Going to have to find at least two legit transfers in order to be a top half team in the conference imo.

Obviously, super limited sample size/minutes, but Freitag looked legit terrible every moment I saw him on the court this year.

Which was a real bummer.
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Post#628 » by 0BobLobLaw0 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:28 am

ReasonablySober wrote:And Marshfield just choked away their first state championship. Today was awful.


When they went 4 corners with like 3 minutes left, it was horrible to watch. WI needs to adopt a shot clock for HS bball.


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Post#629 » by MVP2110 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:30 am

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tski1972 wrote:Looking ahead, not sure what they’ll have next season.

Blackwell and Winter are only the two sure things. Will Freitag make an impact? Is Cam Hunter an option? Will Janicki learn to shoot? Can Amos make a leap?

Going to have to find at least two legit transfers in order to be a top half team in the conference imo.


Reports indicate that the Badgers are in on a lot of transfers.


Probably have to land two starters at a minimum, assuming they can retain Blackwell & Winter.

Blackwell & Winter are your returning core players(hopefully)

Janicki & Amos are your returning role players

Then need a couple of Freitag, Robison, or Greppi to step up as sophomores, or Jones, Kinziger, or Garlock to be able to produce as freshman.
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Post#630 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:38 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:And Marshfield just choked away their first state championship. Today was awful.


When they went 4 corners with like 3 minutes left, it was horrible to watch. WI needs to adopt a shot clock for HS bball.


Telling your players to not shoot is telling them you don't trust them to play basketball.

As soon as they did that I knew punishment was coming from the basketball gods.
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Post#631 » by trwi7 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:13 pm

Hear we're getting a graduate transfer named Lon Ronje. Hopefully he's good.
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Post#632 » by chonestown » Sun Mar 23, 2025 3:24 pm

trwi7 wrote:Hear we're getting a graduate transfer named Lon Ronje. Hopefully he's good.


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Post#633 » by Kerb Hohl » Sun Mar 23, 2025 7:19 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
BroncoBuck wrote:
tski1972 wrote:Looking ahead, not sure what they’ll have next season.

Blackwell and Winter are only the two sure things. Will Freitag make an impact? Is Cam Hunter an option? Will Janicki learn to shoot? Can Amos make a leap?

Going to have to find at least two legit transfers in order to be a top half team in the conference imo.


Reports indicate that the Badgers are in on a lot of transfers.


Probably have to land two starters at a minimum, assuming they can retain Blackwell & Winter.

Blackwell & Winter are your returning core players(hopefully)

Janicki & Amos are your returning role players

Then need a couple of Freitag, Robison, or Greppi to step up as sophomores, or Jones, Kinziger, or Garlock to be able to produce as freshman.


I know you’re just listing all the names - Greppi seems like a bench scrub.

I was kind of finally out on Gard going into the year because he didn’t seem willing enough to overhaul his roster with the portal. Now it appears to be the norm in college hoops and I assume we’ll be big players. Of course, the money to some degree has to be there.

For my own sanity, I am not sure I can do this much more, though. I am not one that overreacts on a coach’s ability in the tournament and such, but it has just felt like we’ve been banished to a hell of whatever exact recipe for the **** first weekend possible every year. It sucks after always watching a relatively satisfying full season.
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Post#634 » by ReginaldDwight » Sun Mar 23, 2025 7:41 pm

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MVP2110 wrote:
BroncoBuck wrote:
Reports indicate that the Badgers are in on a lot of transfers.


Probably have to land two starters at a minimum, assuming they can retain Blackwell & Winter.

Blackwell & Winter are your returning core players(hopefully)

Janicki & Amos are your returning role players

Then need a couple of Freitag, Robison, or Greppi to step up as sophomores, or Jones, Kinziger, or Garlock to be able to produce as freshman.


I know you’re just listing all the names - Greppi seems like a bench scrub.

I was kind of finally out on Gard going into the year because he didn’t seem willing enough to overhaul his roster with the portal. Now it appears to be the norm in college hoops and I assume we’ll be big players. Of course, the money to some degree has to be there.

For my own sanity, I am not sure I can do this much more, though. I am not one that overreacts on a coach’s ability in the tournament and such, but it has just felt like we’ve been banished to a hell of whatever exact recipe for the **** first weekend possible every year. It sucks after always watching a relatively satisfying full season.

I called it, the talent tbh wasn't there this year and hasn't been in awhile. Feels like riding out Gard for this long is a mistake but tbh the job is a tough sell to a real top level guy. Its still a football school and it seems the instate pipelines have pretty much dried up due to wisconsin born coaches leading big time programs taking most of the elite talent. UW and MU haven't snatched any elite wisconsin guys in quite some time.
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Post#635 » by Kerb Hohl » Sun Mar 23, 2025 7:50 pm

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Probably have to land two starters at a minimum, assuming they can retain Blackwell & Winter.

Blackwell & Winter are your returning core players(hopefully)

Janicki & Amos are your returning role players

Then need a couple of Freitag, Robison, or Greppi to step up as sophomores, or Jones, Kinziger, or Garlock to be able to produce as freshman.


I know you’re just listing all the names - Greppi seems like a bench scrub.

I was kind of finally out on Gard going into the year because he didn’t seem willing enough to overhaul his roster with the portal. Now it appears to be the norm in college hoops and I assume we’ll be big players. Of course, the money to some degree has to be there.

For my own sanity, I am not sure I can do this much more, though. I am not one that overreacts on a coach’s ability in the tournament and such, but it has just felt like we’ve been banished to a hell of whatever exact recipe for the **** first weekend possible every year. It sucks after always watching a relatively satisfying full season.

I called it, the talent tbh wasn't there this year and hasn't been in awhile. Feels like riding out Gard for this long is a mistake but tbh the job is a tough sell to a real top level guy. Its still a football school and it seems the instate pipelines have pretty much dried up due to wisconsin born coaches leading big time programs taking most of the elite talent. UW and MU haven't snatched any elite wisconsin guys in quite some time.


It’s cute to still think local recruiting matters in the transfer portal era/college hoops in general.

Obviously Kon was out of reach. Momcilovic was a miss by both coaches that thought he was too slow/couldn’t play D.

Anyone else that is from WI dominating and also would’ve stayed the whole time?
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Post#636 » by Bernman » Sun Mar 23, 2025 7:56 pm

ReginaldDwight wrote:I called it, the talent tbh wasn't there this year and hasn't been in awhile. Feels like riding out Gard for this long is a mistake but tbh the job is a tough sell to a real top level guy. Its still a football school and it seems the instate pipelines have pretty much dried up due to wisconsin born coaches leading big time programs taking most of the elite talent. UW and MU haven't snatched any elite wisconsin guys in quite some time.


The in-state recruiting is a foundation & microcosm of what we may be able to do outside too. And there's no excuse to get beat to players by the likes of Iowa St., or even Nebraska. We got blue-chippers earlier in Ryan's tenure too. But that was reduced cuz of the bad rep of not developing players for the NBA and playing a constipated style. Gard had exacerbated this issue.

I just hope players saw the style UW played this yr, that's a permanent change, & Gard pledges that to prospective recruits. As for having players translating to the pros, it's going to take time, while we're dealing w/ the stigma giving us worse NBA prospects. Got to scout well then too. Winning the battle for this Vaughn Karvala guy in '26 looks like it would be a good start. Until then we're dining off transfers.
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Post#637 » by Kerb Hohl » Sun Mar 23, 2025 8:10 pm

Bernman wrote:
ReginaldDwight wrote:I called it, the talent tbh wasn't there this year and hasn't been in awhile. Feels like riding out Gard for this long is a mistake but tbh the job is a tough sell to a real top level guy. Its still a football school and it seems the instate pipelines have pretty much dried up due to wisconsin born coaches leading big time programs taking most of the elite talent. UW and MU haven't snatched any elite wisconsin guys in quite some time.


The in-state recruiting is a foundation & microcosm of what we may be able to do outside too. And there's no excuse to get beat to players by the likes of Iowa St., or even Nebraska. We got blue-chippers earlier in Ryan's tenure too. But that was reduced cuz of the bad rep of not developing players for the NBA and playing a constipated style. Gard had exacerbated this issue.

I just hope players saw the style UW played this yr, that's a permanent change, & Gard pledges that to prospective recruits. As for having players translating to the pros, it's going to take time, while we're dealing w/ the stigma giving us worse NBA prospects. Got to scout well then too. Winning the battle for this Vaughn Karvala guy in '26 looks like it would be a good start. Until then we're dining off transfers.


Guys, it’s not 2012 anymore. You’re paying far too much attention to HS recruiting unless it’s top 25 guys like Kneuppel.
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Post#638 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 8:19 pm

I’m not a fan of Gard. Think they needed to move on three years ago. But am willing to concede the portal game is a mess. If they replace him, the new guy has to be able to play it well.
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Post#639 » by Bernman » Sun Mar 23, 2025 8:27 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:Guys, it’s not 2012 anymore. You’re paying far too much attention to HS recruiting unless it’s top 25 guys like Kneuppel.


Some people are capable of not looking at things as just binaries. I can think both things are important.

You can't just sit around waiting for a mid-major transfer, while most hs school kids you recruit suck early cuz you don't get the ballyhooed ones on account of your style & lack of NBA translation. Teams making runs in the tourney are still off mostly guys they recruited out of high school.

Blackwell & Winter were assets toward making a run, they didn't because collectively they didn't have the talent. If they got Knueppels, Herros, Jalen Johnsons, etc. from in state; and duplicated that out of state because the style was appealing, we'd have the foundation other teams have to make NCAA runs too.
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Post#640 » by Kerb Hohl » Sun Mar 23, 2025 8:32 pm

Bernman wrote:
Kerb Hohl wrote:Guys, it’s not 2012 anymore. You’re paying far too much attention to HS recruiting unless it’s top 25 guys like Kneuppel.


Some people are capable of not looking at things as just binaries. I can think both things are important.

You can't just sit around waiting for a mid-major transfer, while most hs school kids you recruit suck early cuz you don't get the ballyhooed ones on account of your style & lack of NBA translation. Teams making runs in the tourney are still off mostly guys they recruited out of high school.

Blackwell & Winter were assets toward making a run, they didn't because collectively they didn't have the talent. If they got Knueppels, Herros, Jalen Johnsons, etc. from in state; and duplicated that out of state because the style was appealing, we'd have the foundation other teams have to make NCAA runs too.


Unless you are counting Duke, this is insanely false.

There’s still room to develop 2-3 guys in your own rotation like Blackwell, Winter, Hepburn of old…but putting all of your eggs in like 100th ranked recruits and sticking out the duds or developmental one just isn’t a viable strategy anymore.

The one thing that is still the same as 2012 - we don’t have the cash for Kneuppel, Jalen Johnson, Herro. That’s the same as it has always been and doesn’t change because we play a fast-paced offense.

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