2024-25 NBA MVP Discussion Thread (Pt. 4: Who is the MVP?)

[canada_dry]

Why don’t the Nuggets shoot 60% from 3 every game? Are they stupid?

The jokic defense league working overtime.

I mean its funny how a 17 win team is performing really well against the #2 seed.

That murray guy really looks sorry huh, boys?

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Don’t think I saw you when the Nuggets lost to the G League Trailblazers by 20+ points lol. My basic take on the MVP race has always been that SGA is elevating one of the best supporting casts in the league to ATG levels while Jokic is elevating a very mid supporting cast to 50+ wins

Honestly im not in here that often lol. Probably should have been. Admittedly i enjoy being here when i know the jokic defense league is gonna be running around like headless chickens trying to come up with an angle of defense the type that would make jokic blush.

I find it very entertaining.

Reading back, let me be the first to say any questions about jokic leadership is ridiculous. I've defended him against nonsensical criticism for years now. Its just this year that im really seeing the jokic stans showing their azz , so its new and entertaining to me.



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[SpurNani]

I'm not saying they'd make the playoffs without Jokic cuz they wouldn't but 17 wins is a reckless exaggeration. They'd probably be like 34-48 or something, which is obviously bad but 17 win teams are just basically free Ws most of the time.

You would think so, right? But the last time we saw the "MVP" he lost on his homecourt against the then 14 win Wizards and allowed a rookie to score a career high on him due to his lackadaisical defense.

But Jokic fans will try to diminish the two wins against GS and Hou or find something new to cry about instead of gracefully conceding the MVP to a very deserving MVP in Shai.

[canada_dry]

I'm not saying they'd make the playoffs without Jokic cuz they wouldn't but 17 wins is a reckless exaggeration. They'd probably be like 34-48 or something, which is obviously bad but 17 win teams are just basically free Ws most of the time.

You would think so, right? But the last time we saw the "MVP" he lost on his homecourt against the then 14 win Wizards and allowed a rookie to score a career high on him due to his lackadaisical defense.

But Jokic fans will try to diminish the two wins against GS and Hou or find something new to cry about instead of gracefully conceding the MVP to a very deserving MVP in Shai.

Most have conceded. That's not the debate anymore...They're just not happy about it, understandably, and can't rest well at night without us thinking jokic supporting cast is trash, murray is garbage and theyd win 17 games without jokic, so really he DESERVES mvp because his team sucks, no #2 option etc etc... but he wont get it due to politics.

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[RRR3]

SGA is 7-27 rn, one game and all but holy hell is that bad

[canada_dry]

SGA is 7-27 rn, one game and all but holy hell is that bad

Down 1 of a 10-2 run when he subbed in. It wasn't pretty but he got his team past the finish line.

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[Special_Puppy]

SGA is 7-27 rn, one game and all but holy hell is that bad

He's got that Mamba Mentality tonight

[Special_Puppy]

How does SGA driving a cybertruck factor into the MVP race? Feel like it takes away from his aura

[Big J]

How does SGA driving a cybertruck factor into the MVP race? Feel like it takes away from his aura

Eww, SGA is a Trumper? I’m changing my vote to Jokic.

[EmpireFalls]

How does SGA driving a cybertruck factor into the MVP race? Feel like it takes away from his aura

Eww, SGA is a Trumper? I’m changing my vote to Jokic.

I’m going to guess you don’t know all that much about Serbian politics

[Big J]

How does SGA driving a cybertruck factor into the MVP race? Feel like it takes away from his aura

Eww, SGA is a Trumper? I’m changing my vote to Jokic.

I’m going to guess you don’t know all that much about Serbian politics

Well, SGA is Canadian, and he’s a Trumper, so anything is possible.

[RRR3]

How does SGA driving a cybertruck factor into the MVP race? Feel like it takes away from his aura

Eww, SGA is a Trumper? I’m changing my vote to Jokic.

Jokic supports far right politics lol.

[MMyhre]

SGA with the Hardenesque field goal percentage vs Harden to honor his upcoming MVP. In a fair world he loses his MVP for that, disgusting! 17 win Nuggets team did well with another big win against a good team though..

[Statlanta]

I'm not saying they'd make the playoffs without Jokic cuz they wouldn't but 17 wins is a reckless exaggeration. They'd probably be like 34-48 or something, which is obviously bad but 17 win teams are just basically free Ws most of the time.

You would think so, right? But the last time we saw the "MVP" he lost on his homecourt against the then 14 win Wizards and allowed a rookie to score a career high on him due to his lackadaisical defense.

But Jokic fans will try to diminish the two wins against GS and Hou or find something new to cry about instead of gracefully conceding the MVP to a very deserving MVP in Shai.

Unanimous MVP Curry lost to the 17-65 Lakers 95-112 shooting 30%, scoring 18 points and getting outscored by rookie D'Angelo Russell.

Stuff happens.

[SpurNani]

I'm not saying they'd make the playoffs without Jokic cuz they wouldn't but 17 wins is a reckless exaggeration. They'd probably be like 34-48 or something, which is obviously bad but 17 win teams are just basically free Ws most of the time.

You would think so, right? But the last time we saw the "MVP" he lost on his homecourt against the then 14 win Wizards and allowed a rookie to score a career high on him due to his lackadaisical defense.

But Jokic fans will try to diminish the two wins against GS and Hou or find something new to cry about instead of gracefully conceding the MVP to a very deserving MVP in Shai.

Unanimous MVP Curry lost to the 17-65 Lakers 95-112 shooting 30%, scoring 18 points and getting outscored by rookie D'Angelo Russell.

Stuff happens.

Stuff does happen but Jokic got swept by the Wizards.

[Andri]

Ugly game from SGA, facing the kind of coverage that he will face during this year PO's. His final stats were helped by his foult baiting, although he missed some buckets I expect him to make normally.

In summary, I would expect from him to reduce his production or/and efficiency in the postseason, opposed to the exception to the rule stars. But time will tell.

Props to the Clips, they could be legit if healthy

[Optms]

How does SGA driving a cybertruck factor into the MVP race? Feel like it takes away from his aura

Eww, SGA is a Trumper? I’m changing my vote to Jokic.

Both your options are far rightists. Nice.

[lethalizer]

Ugly game from SGA, facing the kind of coverage that he will face during this year PO's. His final stats were helped by his foult baiting, although he missed some buckets I expect him to make normally.

In summary, I would expect from him to reduce his production or/and efficiency in the postseason, opposed to the exception to the rule stars. But time will tell.

Props to the Clips, they could be legit if healthy

Clippers are a great defensive team, and they are healthy.

Shai was missing his second and third options during this game.

He was facing all kinds of coverages against the Mavs last season during the playoffs and he averaged 32.2 points per game on elite efficiency.

It's like some people don't really pay attention to the games themselves, it's wild.

[Andri]

Ugly game from SGA, facing the kind of coverage that he will face during this year PO's. His final stats were helped by his foult baiting, although he missed some buckets I expect him to make normally.

In summary, I would expect from him to reduce his production or/and efficiency in the postseason, opposed to the exception to the rule stars. But time will tell.

Props to the Clips, they could be legit if healthy

Clippers are a great defensive team, and they are healthy.

Shai was missing his second and third options during this game.

He was facing all kinds of coverages against the Mavs last season during the playoffs and he averaged 32.2 points per game on elite efficiency.

It's like some people don't really pay attention to the games themselves, it's wild.

I am completely aware of the context, as many teams don’t have their full roster available, nor they will have during the title run.

Also, I specifically said this year PO’s, as opposed to last year because I do believe because his consolidation as top3 player, he will face even more challenging coverages and plans, more in the line like Luka or Jokic in the past.

Again, time will time, don’t feel triggered

[-Luke-]

If we are at a point of the season where we speculate (or discuss) about the political views of the MVP candidates, it's probably time to start the playoffs.

[lethalizer]

I am completely aware of the context, as many teams don’t have their full roster available, nor they will have during the title run.

Also, I specifically said this year PO’s, as opposed to last year because I do believe because his consolidation as top3 player, he will face even more challenging coverages and plans, more in the line like Luka or Jokic in the past.

Again, time will time, don’t feel triggered

I don't feel like you're aware of the context, if you were, you would have noted as such during your evaluation of the game.

The 2nd paragraph is a legitimate one here, but again, saying this after a game without his top 2 options is wild.

Assuming Kawhi is the best player of the Clippers when healthy, I wouldn't make a statement about his postseason performance expectation if Harden and Zubac were both out during this game.

Many teams don't have their full roster available come postseason, but if a top 3 player misses his second and third option, there would be no title run for said player. That is unprecedented in NBA history, as far as I know, but I'd love to hear some contrary examples here.