Miami vs Warriors 3/25 @ 7:30 PM

[marson]

Wiggins with the Heat
21.0ppg 48fg% 36% 3pt 4 rpg 3apg

Butler with Warriors
17.6ppg 44fg% 23% 3pt 6 rbg 5.5apg

Wiggins with the Heat: 3-10

Jimmy with the Warriors: 16-3

He has a superstar teammate and GOAT shooter. Wiggs has none.

[vagelis]

Wiggins with the Heat
21.0ppg 48fg% 36% 3pt 4 rpg 3apg

Butler with Warriors
17.6ppg 44fg% 23% 3pt 6 rbg 5.5apg

Wiggins with the Heat: 3-10

Jimmy with the Warriors: 16-3

He has a superstar teammate and GOAT shooter. Wiggs has none.

Curry scores around 30ppg after the trade (without having the exactly current stat).
Curry clearly wants to support this trade. He was averaging around 23ppg before the trade.

So, yes Curry is one of the main reasons that Warriors won so many games. He is full mode right now.

Warriors will bring Curry to play tomorrow against Miami while he was not with the team.
They want to show everyone that giving 60m/yr to Butler was the correct decision.
They dont want to lose.


One more reason for Heat losing streak and Warriors winning streak is that Butler was inserted in a system while Wiggins changed Heat system.
Wiggins was added to a team mid season and this was a change for Miami while Butler replaced a player (Wiggins).

[VaDe255]

Didn't expect Wiggins stans to actually exist, but they apparently do.

Wiggins might not even be worth his contract, but I'm glad he is playing better now, still not convinced anyone would pay him 30m at this point.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Wiggins with the Heat
21.0ppg 48fg% 36% 3pt 4 rpg 3apg

Butler with Warriors
17.6ppg 44fg% 23% 3pt 6 rbg 5.5apg

Wiggins with the Heat: 3-10

Jimmy with the Warriors: 16-3

He has a superstar teammate and GOAT shooter. Wiggs has none.

Doesn’t matter, the point stands. Jimmy clears Wiggins and it’s not even close, 2 games doesn’t change that when you have a career worth of data to show you Wiggins has been an inefficient chucker his entire career. I mean we have guys gassing up a season he had a 53TS% because he chucked his way to 23.6 PPG and now we’re pretending he’s some sort of dominant scorer lol

[Vertical Limit]

Didn't expect Wiggins stans to actually exist, but they apparently do.

Wiggins might not even be worth his contract, but I'm glad he is playing better now, still not convinced anyone would pay him 30m at this point.

Im all for him scoring 40 points per game the rest of the season so that we can trade him for multiple firsts.. chances are he will scale back down.. wiggins is not part of the plans.. hes a luxury player you want to have when you have a championship roster.. we dont even have a first or second option on our team yet..

[Bishop45]

New OP Energy, it's gon be good (O rly bad)

[SerialChiller]

New OP Energy, it's gon be good (O rly bad)

Big vag energy FTW!

[Moneyball_Spo]

Wiggins with the Heat: 3-10

Jimmy with the Warriors: 16-3

He has a superstar teammate and GOAT shooter. Wiggs has none.

Doesn’t matter, the point stands. Jimmy clears Wiggins and it’s not even close, 2 games doesn’t change that when you have a career worth of data to show you Wiggins has been an inefficient chucker his entire career. I mean we have guys gassing up a season he had a 53TS% because he chucked his way to 23.6 PPG and now we’re pretending he’s some sort of dominant scorer lol

3, you crack me up, harlem. He believes in Wiggins, like you believe in Bam.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

He has a superstar teammate and GOAT shooter. Wiggs has none.

Doesn’t matter, the point stands. Jimmy clears Wiggins and it’s not even close, 2 games doesn’t change that when you have a career worth of data to show you Wiggins has been an inefficient chucker his entire career. I mean we have guys gassing up a season he had a 53TS% because he chucked his way to 23.6 PPG and now we’re pretending he’s some sort of dominant scorer lol

3, you crack me up, harlem. He believes in Wiggins, like you believe in Bam.

Edrice clears everyone on the roster, we are NOT the same!! Simmer down Harlem!!!! Glad you’re back by the way, loved yelling back and forth with you and thought you were hilarious

[Tim_Hardawayy]

I have embraced the tank, but a part of me wouldn't mind us going on a run, sneaking into the playoffs through the play-in, and getting an upset while the Warriors get knocked out in round 1, just to see the ridiculous overreactions by everyone who prematurely anointed Jimmy and buried this franchise.

I'm so behind on how the rules work, can we even get the 7 seed through the play-in or is 8 our ceiling? And does that reset our draft position to 16 overriding our record?

[Tim_Hardawayy]

As for Wiggs, I've never watched him closely but even just in the few weeks he's been with the Heat you can see he's exactly as advertised, he looks like a guy who could have been a borderline superstar if he was locked in and obsessed, but is content to instead be a super role player who occasionally just goes off because he can't hide all that talent. Kinda mediocre court vision though, which matters more in today's NBA where passing because of the 3 ball is a bit more important.

He's a rare case of a guy who is being paid in that middle salary range between max and MLE, who appears to be worth every penny and not just underpaid because of circumstance. I could actually see him part of the team long term just because we love two way guys which he is, and because his lack of ego is an understated plus in a league full of them.

[eddieheatfan]

i'm wouldnt be too excited about last night win. the heat beat a team that has worse record than themselves. will this team go in a run that remains to be seen. i just trust this team to do that yet. not this season anyway

[3ammy3uck3ts]

i'm wouldnt be too excited about last night win. the heat beat a team that has worse record than themselves. will this team go in a run that remains to be seen. i just trust this team to do that yet. not this season anyway

Nah we’re clearly winning the championship now

[Tim_Hardawayy]

i'm wouldnt be too excited about last night win. the heat beat a team that has worse record than themselves. will this team go in a run that remains to be seen. i just trust this team to do that yet. not this season anyway

I have mixed feelings, it was a mediocre win considering the competition, but I think a lot of the issues of the recent losing streak were mental. They were up in most of those games in the second half and even fourth quarters and just folded, and gave up several big leads. Its not like they were playing like a bottom dweller aside from closing games out. That screams "in your head" to me.

Not at all saying this team is that much better than its record, but I don't think they're lose 10 in a row bad either. Still a superstar away from competing though, Bam isn't an offensive hub and Tyler's not talented enough to be "the man".

[Voltron914]

Wiggins with the Heat
21.0ppg 48fg% 36% 3pt 4 rpg 3apg

Butler with Warriors
17.6ppg 44fg% 23% 3pt 6 rbg 5.5apg

Wiggins with the Heat: 3-10

Jimmy with the Warriors: 16-3

He has a superstar teammate and GOAT shooter. Wiggs has none.

this is what i hate most about the Jimmy trade aftermath. Butler wanted max money and superstar perks to be Scottie Pippen when we needed him to be Jordan Kobe Wade etc. That #1 option who was available and put the team on his back. I never seen this fan base except a player blatantly coasting until all star break like this was another Big 3 situation. we had mutual success where every player contributed but the bright lights and his crew turned Jimmy into a diva. what happens if he never reaches the finals again?is that Curry and draymond's fault or their new expensive role player?

[MartyConlonJr]

If the Heat make 10th seed play-in and get a draw of
- Chicago (1st play in)
- Atlanta or Orlando (2nd play in)
- Cleveland (1st round)
- Indiana (2nd round)

These are all teams we competed with.
- Bulls came back from 17 down to beat us by 5 (tied with 1:45 left), and we lost another game where we were down 3 with 2:01 to go.
- Hawks, we won one game by 22, lost a game we were down 1 with 3:28 left.
- Orlando we won a game by 1 and won a double OT.
- Cleveland we won one (though Jimmy played), but also lost one while seriously undermanned where we led by 1 with 2:55 left.
- Pacers we won, then lost back to back. We had a loss with Jimmy too, and another win without.

This roster has proven it can get close with these teams.

I think we are better to tank, probably won't miss play in. Could throw the play in for a good lotto chance, but if we go for it, and get hot or mesh, could surprise. Like others have said, it seems mental for us.

We've definitely had playoffs and regular seasons that seem like night and day in the past, and not just playoff Jimmy, but whole squads going hot or cold

[SerialChiller]

i'm wouldnt be too excited about last night win. the heat beat a team that has worse record than themselves. will this team go in a run that remains to be seen. i just trust this team to do that yet. not this season anyway

There's no run in this team. When things get tight in the playoffs we just won't be able to score enough. And we can't take care of the basketball or even get into sets under pressure. You have to be able to close games, and we struggled even with Jimmy. Now our closer is gone and we need to shoot lights out to have a chance and I can't see us managing to keep that up for a whole series. Maybe to steal a game but I don't see it happening beyond that. Even just for 2 games in a row against weak opponents to make it out of the play-in. And we'd need everyone to be healthy and stay that way which is unlikely as well. We've already seen how they collapse in the second half and fourth quarter of regular season games even over and over again. When other coaches make adjustments at halftime, Spo has no answers. This team is completely cooked...

[Wiltside]

TBH I think us being chit this season could be a blessing in disguise. Bank a top 8 pick, reconfigure the rotation and make some hard decisions, and I'll back us to bounce back next year with a rejuvenated group.

[vagelis]

If the Heat make 10th seed play-in and get a draw of
- Chicago (1st play in)
- Atlanta or Orlando (2nd play in)
- Cleveland (1st round)
- Indiana (2nd round)

These are all teams we competed with.
- Bulls came back from 17 down to beat us by 5 (tied with 1:45 left), and we lost another game where we were down 3 with 2:01 to go.
- Hawks, we won one game by 22, lost a game we were down 1 with 3:28 left.
- Orlando we won a game by 1 and won a double OT.
- Cleveland we won one (though Jimmy played), but also lost one while seriously undermanned where we led by 1 with 2:55 left.
- Pacers we won, then lost back to back. We had a loss with Jimmy too, and another win without.

This roster has proven it can get close with these teams.

I think we are better to tank, probably won't miss play in. Could throw the play in for a good lotto chance, but if we go for it, and get hot or mesh, could surprise. Like others have said, it seems mental for us.

We've definitely had playoffs and regular seasons that seem like night and day in the past, and not just playoff Jimmy, but whole squads going hot or cold

I am with you, Heat competed almost every game they lost.
If they find chemistry and Jovic comes back we could see very different results.

[Shewasfly]

Genuinely don't care if we win this game or not, and not understanding why so many do. The only thing I don't want is to be blown out and for our "big 3" to play well and mesh together. But I want that in every other game too. So yeah, it's literally like any other game to me.