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Jrue Holiday
Perhaps the most obvious of the bunch, Jrue Holiday could very well be looking at his last playoff run in Boston this year.
Set to make $32.4 million next season (and with two more years on his contract after that at an increasing rate), trading Holiday would do wonders for Boston’s luxury tax problems, should they find the right deal.
Kristaps Porzingis
If the Celtics want to keep the best defensive backcourt in the NBA in tact, then they could instead look to trade Kristaps Porzingis.
The Latvian big man will make $30.7 million next season, so trading his contract would achieve virtually the same goals as trading Holiday’s would.
Trading Tatum or Brown doesn't make much sense, as they are the pillars of the organization, and White's age and skill set make him the ideal fit alongside those two guys. That leaves Holiday or Porzingis as the odd man out.
Gant wrote:me: If Brad Stevens makes a trade, it'll be with an eye towards keeping the Celtics competitive for future titles. Depending on trading partners, it's possible a deal for Brown might appear which could accomplish this. Holiday, Porzingis, and Brown seem most likely. Tatum definitely no. White very little chance. There are no other options to get under the apron.
The Corey's wrote:31to6 wrote:The Corey's wrote:Pretty crazy to see people talking about blowing up a team that should be primed for a 3 or 4 title run.
There is zero scenario the Celtics get away with shedding contracts without winning championships.
Pretty wild to see posts where I don't get what the poster is trying to say.
Chatgpt could probably translate it for you.
I'll slow it down for you. If they don't win championships, ownership will not get away with gutting the team.
No one says **** if you're winning. But if you're not winning, ownership is not gonna hear the end of how they took a championship roster and tore it apart over money.
Everyone got fat off one championship it seems and is all too happy to shed a contract when in reality everyone and their mother should accept nothing less than total commitment from our billionaire owner.
phincsfan wrote:There will be teams who are well below the 1st apron that can take on salary. About half the teams can absorb 30+mil to stay under the 2nd apron. But for some teams who have spots to fill, adding a large salary and then having to fill a roster may be a problem.
ConstableGeneva wrote:phincsfan wrote:There will be teams who are well below the 1st apron that can take on salary. About half the teams can absorb 30+mil to stay under the 2nd apron. But for some teams who have spots to fill, adding a large salary and then having to fill a roster may be a problem.
Cs will also be competing with other teams that are likely to offload/trade their big-salaried guys. KD the biggest name being floated out there. There’s only so much collective space available among the 30 teams to absorb unwanted salary (in multiple-team trades) and not all teams with cap space are willing to use said space as dumping ground. Warriors did a decent job getting rid of their biggish salaries to “reset” for Curry’s last hurrah.
Anyway, Brad’s the man. I trust him to do the right thing.
31to6 wrote:The Corey's wrote:31to6 wrote:
Pretty wild to see posts where I don't get what the poster is trying to say.
Chatgpt could probably translate it for you.
I'll slow it down for you. If they don't win championships, ownership will not get away with gutting the team.
No one says **** if you're winning. But if you're not winning, ownership is not gonna hear the end of how they took a championship roster and tore it apart over money.
Everyone got fat off one championship it seems and is all too happy to shed a contract when in reality everyone and their mother should accept nothing less than total commitment from our billionaire owner.
Chisholm, through Wyc, is already laying the groundwork for cutting payroll for 'basketball penalties.'
You're rooting for fan pressure to keep him from doing that, but it's likely what's happening, regardless of how many titles have been or might be won, and he'll 'get away with it', unless you and others are picking up pitchforks and torches. Happens all the time.
I would guess that most team's fans don't like their owners, especially for this reason -- but how many owners in any sport have ever sold due to fan displeasure -- almost none?
cloverleaf wrote:bucknersrevenge wrote:165bows wrote:Right to actually get under they need to reduce 20-30M total.
A few important points on Brown that have been mentioned:
1. Not talent, but Brown is maybe the easiest to replace in terms of "role"
2. Trading Brown is likely the only option that gets you some level of talent in return and not just a straight dump.
3. As such, trading Brown may also be the only deal in which Brad wouldn't have to attach draft capital just to get a team to take it. If roster construction flexibility is as big a concern as they say it is, this point probably shouldn't be overlooked.
EDIT: For example, JB for Zion and Kelly O works. Just sayin.
That'd be a terrible return for Brown.
jmr07019 wrote:bucknersrevenge wrote:165bows wrote:Right to actually get under they need to reduce 20-30M total.
A few important points on Brown that have been mentioned:
1. Not talent, but Brown is maybe the easiest to replace in terms of "role"
2. Trading Brown is likely the only option that gets you some level of talent in return and not just a straight dump.
3. As such, trading Brown may also be the only deal in which Brad wouldn't have to attach draft capital just to get a team to take it. If roster construction flexibility is as big a concern as they say it is, this point probably shouldn't be overlooked.
EDIT: For example, JB for Zion and Kelly O works. Just sayin.
White or Holiday are the easiest to replace. Pritchard is on the roster already on an extremely team friendly contract.
Trading White would bring something back. Porzingis probably gets you some sort of asset in return as well. 30 mil isn’t bad for a 2 way center when other guys are making 50.
bucknersrevenge wrote:KP has missed as many games as he's played in 2 seasons if not more. We could move him if a team was trying to get off a longer deal. His strength beyond what he does in our offense and defense is that he has only one year left on his deal. Honestly, if we're looking to cut salary, moving him makes the LEAST amount of sense after this season. We want to move longer deals not shorter ones. That's Hauser. That's Jrue, and that's unfortunately JB.
phincsfan wrote:
When the Symphony Tech Group was mentioned as a finalist I figured it would be Romesh Wadhwani, he was the real money guy out of that group. 5bil net worth.
The Corey's wrote:
I don't enjoy the way pags is tearing down walls on the way out just because he didn't get his way.
Wether all this is true or not it's obvious that this is coming from pags camp.
phincsfan wrote:
When the Symphony Tech Group was mentioned as a finalist I figured it would be Romesh Wadhwani, he was the real money guy out of that group. 5bil net worth.
165bows wrote:phincsfan wrote:
When the Symphony Tech Group was mentioned as a finalist I figured it would be Romesh Wadhwani, he was the real money guy out of that group. 5bil net worth.
Chisholm’s much better option, local guy, prob not that much less $ and I’m pretty skeptical of Wadhwani, dudes on the board of the Kennedy center so we’d be stuck w drag shows at half time.
I didn’t see that