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Re: Coby White has leveled up again? 

Post#81 » by dougthonus » Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:41 pm

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In a rational world, there sure as heck is a good chance we don't keep Coby. Another team could offer Coby 4/212M after next season, and he's unrestricted so can do whatever he wants. We will only keep Coby if we are the high bidder, and we should make a rational choice on whether to be the high bidder or not.

If someone else looks at Coby and says, yes, this guy is a 53M per year player, then I sure hope that we'd lose Coby, and that's the risk with having an unrestricted free agent that you probably can't extend even if you offer them the max extension.

Sure, but stepping back just a couple months, I would have told anyone to his face that he's a moron for even thinking such a thing was possible. Good problem to have!


If Coby averages 25 ppg next season AND we win(say around 50 games) then yeah I’ll entertain it.


It's hard for me to envision us as a 50 win team, but I agree, if we show we can get to that level of top 4 seed, and Coby's a big part of it then the impact starts warranting real discussion.
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Re: Coby White has leveled up again? 

Post#82 » by sco » Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:48 pm

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sco wrote:Sure, but stepping back just a couple months, I would have told anyone to his face that he's a moron for even thinking such a thing was possible. Good problem to have!


If Coby averages 25 ppg next season AND we win(say around 50 games) then yeah I’ll entertain it.


It's hard for me to envision us as a 50 win team, but I agree, if we show we can get to that level of top 4 seed, and Coby's a big part of it then the impact starts warranting real discussion.

I don't have trouble seeing us as a 50 win team next season, while it does require a little imagination. IMO, it would require the off season to go right. Step 1, get rid of Vuc. Step 2, get the 2023 version of Pat back (just 3 & D). Step 3, resign Giddey and Jones. Step 4, add one more good player via draft or trade. Step 5, here's the real imagination part...stay healthy.
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Re: Coby White has leveled up again? 

Post#83 » by Dez » Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:26 pm

I'm going to laugh at the people that turn on him and immediately crash out at the FO for giving him a ridiculous contract within a month of the season he starts it.
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Re: Coby White has leveled up again? 

Post#84 » by dougthonus » Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:28 pm

Dez wrote:I'm going to laugh at the people that turn on him and immediately crash out at the FO for giving him a ridiculous contract within a month of the season he starts it.


Probably 70% of contracts of non legit max players that are above MLE end up in this boat.
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Post#85 » by NecessaryEvil » Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:31 pm

Congrats to Mr White. Currently one of the best hoopers in the NBA.
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Re: Coby White has leveled up again? 

Post#86 » by WindyCityBorn » Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:33 pm

Dez wrote:I'm going to laugh at the people that turn on him and immediately crash out at the FO for giving him a ridiculous contract within a month of the season he starts it.


We can’t give offer him a contract that he would accept until Summer 2026. We’ll have another full season of data to work with.
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Post#87 » by NecessaryEvil » Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:39 pm

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Re: Coby White has leveled up again? 

Post#88 » by Dez » Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:41 pm

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Dez wrote:I'm going to laugh at the people that turn on him and immediately crash out at the FO for giving him a ridiculous contract within a month of the season he starts it.


Probably 70% of contracts of non legit max players that are above MLE end up in this boat.


So AKME should do the right thing and cash in this off-season.
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Re: Coby White has leveled up again? 

Post#89 » by dougthonus » Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:50 pm

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Dez wrote:I'm going to laugh at the people that turn on him and immediately crash out at the FO for giving him a ridiculous contract within a month of the season he starts it.


Probably 70% of contracts of non legit max players that are above MLE end up in this boat.


So AKME should do the right thing and cash in this off-season.


I agree. I had noted last off-season that this problem was going to exist with both Coby and Ayo and that I'd probably look to trade both prior to extension.
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Post#90 » by drosestruts » Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:54 pm

Why have good players when you could have picks??
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Post#91 » by FriedRise » Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:01 pm

drosestruts wrote:Why have good players when you could have picks??


So you can turn those picks into good players, and then turn those good players into picks again! I don't get why this is so hard to understand!!
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Re: Coby White has leveled up again? 

Post#92 » by Peelboy » Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:03 pm

As an Illini fan (long-suffering), it pains me to say this but I think the Bulls need to trade Ayo. He's valuable, has another cheap year, young, continues to improve and outside of this recent injury, has been durable (77, 76, 80 games first 3 years). But with Giddey and Coby he's disposable. Plus, assuming he's relatively cheap, I kind of like Tre Jones as a 3d guard, and he's only 25.

If there's any way to deal Vuc and Ayo and maybe a 2 to move into late first, I'd jump on it. Then you grab a replacement C (Maluach? Queen?) and then I'd go for another wing (I think Will Riley has a good future if he can get an NBA body but admittedly am biased).

A team with Giddey, Coby, Matas, Maluach, Riley has some decent young talent, but will still struggle. Then you have Collins, Huerter, Lonzo who would be vets on either good deals (Zo if he can stay healthy), or expirings who are playing pretty well since coming over. A good GM would showcase all for deadline deals and add more picks in 2026. So AK will probably extend them or let them walk for nothing.

But I think retaining Coby unless you can get a high pick for him or a mid pick and a younger player with upside is the play. Coby and Giddey I think are a solid backcourt combo and with Matas can run folks out of the building.
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Re: Coby White has leveled up again? 

Post#93 » by 2weekswithpay » Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:05 pm

drosestruts wrote:Why have good players when you could have picks??


Because our players aren't that good relative to the rest of the league. No one on this team is a top 50 player and only two players would crack the top 100.
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Post#94 » by Repeat 3-peat » Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:12 pm

Don't pay good players superstar level money. Especially with the new CBA.

Thankfully, Coby has another season to prove his worth, or could be a trade piece this Summer.
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Post#95 » by drosestruts » Mon Mar 24, 2025 11:10 pm

Repeat 3-peat wrote:Don't pay good players superstar level money. Especially with the new CBA.

Thankfully, Coby has another season to prove his worth, or could be a trade piece this Summer.


or even next summer. Sign and trades are more popular than ever.
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Post#96 » by drosestruts » Mon Mar 24, 2025 11:11 pm

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drosestruts wrote:Why have good players when you could have picks??


Because our players aren't that good relative to the rest of the league. No one on this team is a top 50 player and only two players would crack the top 100.


What else did that crystal ball show you? Anything on what stocks to invest in or lottery numbers to play?
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Post#97 » by NecessaryEvil » Mon Mar 24, 2025 11:30 pm

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I was literally gonna say something like this before they podded about it. Coby could afford to be streaky before. He had the guys capable of 20 plus nightly next to him. These kids NEED him to be the guy he is now. It is different.
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Re: Coby White has leveled up again? 

Post#98 » by 2weekswithpay » Tue Mar 25, 2025 12:47 am

drosestruts wrote:
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drosestruts wrote:Why have good players when you could have picks??


Because our players aren't that good relative to the rest of the league. No one on this team is a top 50 player and only two players would crack the top 100.


What else did that crystal ball show you? Anything on what stocks to invest in or lottery numbers to play?


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Post#99 » by ScrantonBulls » Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:10 am

drosestruts wrote:Why have good players when you could have picks??

Having guys like Coby and Ayo taking up significant cap space is a recipe for disaster. They should build around Matas and Giddey and try to find young, complimentary pieces. By all means trade Coby and Ayo for picks.
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Re: Coby White has leveled up again? 

Post#100 » by RastaBull » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:34 am

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Looks like he wants to make it three in a row?!?!

Coby legit has chance of averaging 30ppg in March!
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