*Update* Josh Giddey post All-Star break: 23.1 ppg, 10.9 rpg, 8.4 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.9 bpg on 65.5% TS

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Re: *Update* Josh Giddey post All-Star break: 23.1 ppg, 10.9 rpg, 8.4 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.9 bpg on 65.5% TS 

Post#181 » by wco81 » Mon Mar 24, 2025 1:31 am

So how much should the Bulls pay Giddey, considering that they will have to pay White no later than 2026?
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Post#182 » by Dez » Mon Mar 24, 2025 1:42 am

wco81 wrote:So how much should the Bulls pay Giddey, considering that they will have to pay White no later than 2026?


The Bulls can only offer White a max of 18M per on his next contract.
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Post#183 » by Revived » Mon Mar 24, 2025 2:25 am

The Caruso for Giddey trade is the only one I can think of in the last year where both teams came out on top and got exactly what they wanted from it.

Both teams are “winners” in the trade, there are no losers.
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Post#184 » by FrodoBaggins » Mon Mar 24, 2025 4:16 am

I think Giddey can be a 18-20 ppg, 7-10 rpg, 7-10 apg, 60% TS/105 TS+ guy next season. Based on his recent play w/ increased usage since late January/post-Lavine/post-All-Star break. Assuming he plays the same lead on-ball role in 2025-26.

Last 23 games:
- 33.0 mpg
- 18.6 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 7.3 apg, 1.4 spg, 0.8 bpg, 2.7 topg
- 46.1% 3PT (4.4 attempts), 53.8% 2PT (8.5 attempts), 81.9% FT (4.1 attempts; 31.8% FTr/48.2% 2pt-FTr), 63.2% TS (110 TS+)

Last 11 games (post-AS break):
- 34.5 mpg
- 22.3 ppg, 10.5 rpg, 9.1 apg, 1.7 spg, 0.8 bpg, 2.7 topg
- 52.2% 3PT (4.2 attempts), 53.4% 2PT (10.5 attempts), 84.5% FT (5.3 attempts; 33.5% FTr/50.5% 2pt-FTr), 65.3% TS (113 TS+)

Last 23 games Giddey remains just about 60% TS+ even if you adjust his burgeoning three-point shot to his seasonal average of 37.8%. His foul drawing has more than doubled in Chicago and has steadily improved as the season has progressed.

2022-24 OKC: 13.2% FTr/18.3% 2pt-FTr
2025 CHI: 25.1% FTr/39.4% 2pt-FTr
Last 23 games: 31.8% FTr/48.2% 2pt-FTr
Last 11 games: 33.5% FTr/50.5% 2pt-FTr
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Post#185 » by Patches Perry » Mon Mar 24, 2025 4:50 am

I hope he plays himself into a nice contract.
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Post#186 » by FrodoBaggins » Mon Mar 24, 2025 5:07 am

Josh has become way better as a driver and it's primarily due to improved foul drawing. He's gotten bigger and stronger and is attacking with physicality.

Drives (full season):
- 9.9 drives per game in 29.6 mpg
- 4.6 points, 3.7 FGA, 1.1 FTA (29.7% FTr)
- 49.8% 2PT, 54.97% TS
- 4.9 passes off drives per game, 49.0% pass percentage, 1.3 assists per game, 13.4 assist percentage, 0.6 turnovers per game, 5.6 turnover percentage
- 0.96 ppp without points from assists; estimated 1.65 ppp with points from assists added

Drives (last 23 games):
- 12.1 drives per game in 32.5 mpg
- 6.6 points, 4.7 FGA, 1.9 FTA (40.4% FTr)
- 52.3% 2PT, 59.6% TS
- 5.7 passes off drives per game, 47.0% pass percentage, 1.4 assists per game, 11.5 assist percentage, 0.6 turnovers per game, 4.7 turnover percentage
- 1.08 ppp without points from assists; estimated 1.66 ppp with points from assists added

Drives (last 11 games):
- 15.1 drives per game in 33.9 mpg
- 9.0 points, 6.1 FGA, 2.5 FTA (41.0% FTr)
- 53.7% 2PT, 62.5% TS
- 6.5 passes off drives per game, 42.8% pass percentage, 1.6 assists per game, 10.8 assist percentage, 0.8 turnovers per game, 5.4 turnover percentage
- 1.13 ppp without points from assists; estimated 1.63 ppp with points from assists added

Compared to Giddey in OKC 2022-23:
- 12.4 drives per game in 31.1 mpg
- 6.8 points, 6.3 FGA, 0.7 FTA (11.1% FTr)
- 48.3% 2PT, 51.45% TS
- 4.8 passes off drives per game, 38.8% pass percentage, 1.2 assists per game, 9.9 assist percentage, 0.6 turnovers per game, 5.0 turnover percentage
- 0.93 ppp without points from assists; estimated 1.37 ppp with points from assists added

I didn't bother with 2023-24 because his role was markedly different. He only had 7.1 drives per game in 25.1 mpg. 3.9 points, 3.4 FGA, 0.5 FTA (14.7% FTr), 49.3% 2PT, 53.87% TS.

Progression of drive FTr:

2021-22: 13.0% drive-FTr
2022-23: 11.1% drive-FTr
2023-24: 14.7% drive-FTr
2024-25 (full season): 29.7% drive-FTr
2024-25 (last 23 games): 40.4% drive-FTr
2024-24 (last 11 games): 41.0% drive-FTr
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Post#187 » by Astaluego » Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:09 am

The Bulls, in general, are criticized a lot for being honest and not deliberately sinking, so I'm very happy for them that their bets are going well. I hope they have luck in the next Draft and find a center who complements them well (Maluach?). The young core of Giddey/White/Buzelis (who will end up being the best player in his class, in my opinion) is very promising.
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Re: *Update* Josh Giddey post All-Star break: 23.1 ppg, 10.9 rpg, 8.4 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.9 bpg on 65.5% TS 

Post#188 » by magee » Mon Mar 24, 2025 11:07 am

Astaluego wrote:The Bulls, in general, are criticized a lot for being honest and not deliberately sinking, so I'm very happy for them that their bets are going well. I hope they have luck in the next Draft and find a center who complements them well (Maluach?). The young core of Giddey/White/Buzelis (who will end up being the best player in his class, in my opinion) is very promising.


Some of their bets. Patrick Williams has been a colossal flop. I'm sorry but you should not be paying a guy $20+ milli to come off the bench.
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Re: *Update* Josh Giddey post All-Star break: 23.1 ppg, 10.9 rpg, 8.4 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.9 bpg on 65.5% TS 

Post#189 » by Ice Man » Mon Mar 24, 2025 11:58 am

magee wrote:Some of their bets. Patrick Williams has been a colossal flop.


Bad draft picks happen. The real mistake by the Bulls was not in selecting Pat -- sometimes you go for "potential" and lose -- but instead in falling prey to the sunk-cost fallacy and signing him to a 2nd contract. It was quite clear by Year 4, if not before, that Pat wasn't going to be it.
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Post#190 » by jordanwilliams6 » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:25 am

Giddey again.

26 points
9 assists
8 rebounds

8-11 FG
2-3 3PG
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Post#191 » by HotRocks34 » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:27 am

Chicago looking like the Lakers getting Luka right now.

Super happy for Giddey.
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Post#192 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:27 am

J Giddey is the real deal. Such an excellent passer, awesome to watch
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Post#193 » by meekrab » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:28 am

Dez wrote:
wco81 wrote:So how much should the Bulls pay Giddey, considering that they will have to pay White no later than 2026?


The Bulls can only offer White a max of 18M per on his next contract.

That only applies to an early extension before free agency next summer.
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Post#194 » by SpurNani » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:31 am

The two Aussies, Dyson Daniels and Josh Giddey are going to get paid.
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Post#195 » by Ssj16 » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:33 am

I just keep on thinking how crazy OKC's scouting department has been over the past 15 years. They barely miss and I don't think any team comes close.

They get so much talent that they can give it away in Harden and Giddey.
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Post#196 » by FrodoBaggins » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:36 am

Jimmy Butler-like foul drawing tonight. 10 FTA from 11 FGA/8 2pt-FGA. 90.9% FTr/125.0% 2pt-FTr.
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Post#197 » by Prince187 » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:55 am

wco81 wrote:So how much should the Bulls pay Giddey, considering that they will have to pay White no later than 2026?


When you look at what other guys have been getting recently for their rookie extensions he’s gonna get pretty close to a max contract
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Post#198 » by Chi town » Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:20 am

The Giddler just out here taking over games on the nightly now.
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Post#199 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:36 am

Dez wrote:
wco81 wrote:So how much should the Bulls pay Giddey, considering that they will have to pay White no later than 2026?


The Bulls can only offer White a max of 18M per on his next contract.


No they can offer him more in the Summer of 2026 as unrestricted free agent. They just can’t give him an extension he would accept.
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Post#200 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:37 am

Patches Perry wrote:I hope he plays himself into a nice contract.


He already has. Probably a minimum of $25 million per.

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