25/26 College Basketball

Post #1461 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:35 am

I really hope Juju's injury isn't as bad as it looked.

Post #1462 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:51 am

It's an ACL. **** hell.

Post #1463 » by **humanrefutation** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 9:43 am

It looked like an ACL the way her knee buckled. ****.

mattg · Post #1464 » by **mattg** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 1:11 pm

Rough one as it takes her out of this season and a huge chunk of next season as well with the recovery. Especially since I feel like once women tear their ACLs they keep re injuring themselves over and over again and end up with chronic knee issues because of it.

jschligs · Post #1465 » by **jschligs** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:16 pm

9/16 sweet sixteen teams have 5 starters represented by 5 different teams last year.

My vote is:

- 1st transfer no waiting period. 1 year after that. Exceptions like coaches leaving/grad school of course.
- NIL money is capped, and vests over time. 25% after the first year, 50% after year 2, 100% after year 3.

MikeIsGood · Post #1466 » by **MikeIsGood** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:24 pm

jschligs wrote:9/16 sweet sixteen teams have 5 starters represented by 5 different teams last year.

Holy ****.

BUCKnation · Post #1467 » by **BUCKnation** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:51 pm

jschligs wrote:9/16 sweet sixteen teams have 5 starters represented by 5 different teams last year.

My vote is:

- 1st transfer no waiting period. 1 year after that. Exceptions like coaches leaving/grad school of course.
- NIL money is capped, and vests over time. 25% after the first year, 50% after year 2, 100% after year 3.

The first part is where I thought the NCAA would dip their toes in to the whole NIL world rather than the wild west we have now. I think it's super reasonable.

Post #1468 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:56 pm

I think the NCAA would love either of those options. The problem is the courts essentially told them in no uncertain terms that they had no authority to restrict movement or restrict earnings.

Kerb Hohl · Post #1469 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:58 pm

I honestly don't mind it as much as I thought I would. It creates a fun offseason that is similar to NBA where player movement is a season in itself. There are still guys like McGee or Klesmit who transfer and get to be a "program guy" at a place that missed them the first time around.

It does kind of destroy the mid-majors, so there's that.

I feel like a broken record - I've been saying this since the "why don't we set these salary cap rules" theories have been on here for 2-3 years now: why in god's name would the players agree to any of these rules? For every crappy story about one guy getting burned by a bad NIL deal, 20 guys get a bigger payday. It's great for them. It's great for most big-name programs. It's going to be hard to stop this until they get a super cushy super league someday.

DingleJerry · Post #1470 » by **DingleJerry** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:03 pm

Yea I don't like it as far as 'following' the team. I basically don't even pay attention to the recruiting stuff now since the chances of them even playing for UW is so low now. And then the transfer stuff is a mess so don't pay attention. That said, it seems the results on the court are pretty solid. I think the quality is as good as its been, more parity where almost every team you play is fairly solid. Didn't think I'd ever say it, but watching CBB is better than the NBA right now since all the NBA does is chuck 3s.

MikeIsGood · Post #1471 » by **MikeIsGood** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:16 pm

DingleJerry wrote:Yea I don't like it as far as 'following' the team. I basically don't even pay attention to the recruiting stuff now since the chances of them even playing for UW is so low now. And then the transfer stuff is a mess so don't pay attention. That said, it seems the results on the court are pretty solid. I think the quality is as good as its been, more parity where almost every team you play is fairly solid. Didn't think I'd ever say it, but watching CBB is better than the NBA right now since all the NBA does is chuck 3s.

I have neither the will, nor time frankly, to follow either recruiting pathway anymore. It makes me feel like a filthy casual but it's such a **** mess and it feels like it changes on an hourly basis. When I went to the WMU game (football) last fall, I was sitting in the stands realizing I didn't know like half of the players.

I get Kerb's point that is creates a fun offseason - a game in itself to follow...but I just don't want to. I know many do, so I guess it's a personal problem. I just don't need every sport online year-round with an busy offseason to follow.

Post #1472 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:25 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:
DingleJerry wrote:Yea I don't like it as far as 'following' the team. I basically don't even pay attention to the recruiting stuff now since the chances of them even playing for UW is so low now. And then the transfer stuff is a mess so don't pay attention. That said, it seems the results on the court are pretty solid. I think the quality is as good as its been, more parity where almost every team you play is fairly solid. Didn't think I'd ever say it, but watching CBB is better than the NBA right now since all the NBA does is chuck 3s.

I have neither the will, nor time frankly, to follow either recruiting pathway anymore. It makes me feel like a filthy casual but it's such a **** mess and it feels like it changes on an hourly basis. When I went to the WMU game (football) last fall, I was sitting in the stands realizing I didn't know like half of the players.

I get Kerb's point that is creates a fun offseason - a game in itself to follow...but I just don't want to. I know many do, so I guess it's a personal problem. I just don't need every sport online year-round with an busy offseason to follow.

Yea, the offseason is mostly where I check out now. I have no idea who the Badgers are going to be able to retain from their own team, much less attract from other teams. I'll pop my head in when someone "commits" (lol).

BUCKnation · Post #1473 » by **BUCKnation** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:14 pm

I feel like even if you do pay attention, it's mostly a waste of time. Like on paper, we technically traded Storr for Tonje, which would have seemed like an extreme loss, but ended up being a massive win.

I don't follow super closely, but it seemed like a ton of the highly ranked transfers ended up being duds or just ok, while some of the middling guys found new schools where they thrived. Even Chucky, who left most of us whelmed during his tenure at UW, finally found some alpha-ness at Louisville and was great.

MikeIsGood · Post #1474 » by **MikeIsGood** » Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:33 pm

BUCKnation wrote:I feel like even if you do pay attention, it's mostly a waste of time. Like on paper, we technically traded Storr for Tonje, which would have seemed like an extreme loss, but ended up being a massive win.

I don't follow super closely, but it seemed like a ton of the highly ranked transfers ended up being duds or just ok, while some of the middling guys found new schools where they thrived. Even Chucky, who left most of us whelmed during his tenure at UW, finally found some alpha-ness at Louisville and was great.

There's a lot less buy-in from kids in this model. I'm not even sure that's just my opinion, either - feels relatively objective. Not saying I blame them with the money on the line, but: 18-22 years old, transfer on a dime for a dollar, less team and teammate continuity and relationship accountability. With all of that, and knowing you're maybe making 1M+ no matter what happens, there's less reason to figure out how to make something work, right?

Kansas is like case-in-point, textbook definition of this. They spent an absolute fortune, have a great coach/facilities/etc, put they hit some problems with who they brought in not meshing, hitting expectations, or whatever. Instead of everyone figuring it out, they all just checked out instead. Certainly there's some coaching failure in there, but it's also on the players and their mindsets. It's not about pride so much when you're Hunter Dickinson making nearly $2M for the season anyway. It may even make some of them care less about their prospects for the NBA. Isn't there that Richard Jefferson quote that like 60% of the guys in the league don't actually like basketball? If you don't like basketball and can get paid a pretty penny in college anyways, would you just dip out?

Long winded, but I think it leads to more of the variability you're talking about. You're right - who could have seen Storr for Tonje working so well? But Storr jumped at the cash (again - don't blame him) and then kind of fell behind and was part of the team as it fell apart. Meanwhile, it sent us on the hunt for a new wing, and we took a chance on an injured guy who may not have been looking at Wisconsin if not for our NIL offer. That scenario will play out both ways at times, of course, but I think the Storr thing is kind of amplified in this new age.

ReginaldDwight · Post #1475 » by **ReginaldDwight** » Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:15 am

Mid Major ball is getting crushed by this model. Its not even just the guys leaving its the guys obviously not caring about the team once the first agent gets it in their head they should be a high major player. Look up Stillwell from Milwaukee stats by month this past season. Its pretty clear when he got it in his head its too good for Milwaukee.

Post #1476 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:36 am

Pitino Jr to Xavier

Post #1477 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu Mar 27, 2025 6:20 pm

McCaffrey to Penn

MikeIsGood · Post #1478 » by **MikeIsGood** » Fri Mar 28, 2025 12:20 am

BYU can get bent.

CJTURT · Post #1479 » by **CJTURT** » Fri Mar 28, 2025 12:42 am

Frick byu . 2-15 from deep . So our luck smh

worthlessBucks · Post #1480 » by **worthlessBucks** » Fri Mar 28, 2025 12:44 am

Literally my only game plan if I coached against Alabama would have been to guard Sears tight. They go as he goes. Mindless to leave him wide open for 3s early, allowing him to get this hot. You can’t come back when you give up so many open 3 looks. The law of averages will catch up next game.