Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards

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Select one of each option (4 total questions)

Q1) Keep Front Office
24
18%
Q1) Change Front Office (who?)
10
7%
Q2) Keep Head Coach
20
15%
Q2) Change Head Coach (who?)
10
7%
Q3) Performed better than Expected
1
1%
Q3) Performed as Expected
31
23%
Q3) Performed worse than Expected
4
3%
Q4) Improving team
21
15%
Q4) Treadmill team
8
6%
Q4) Declining team
7
5%
 
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Re: Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards 

Post#21 » by Clav » Tue Mar 25, 2025 1:57 am

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25-26 Capspace - ~84M, depends on Middleton's opt-in or out by a fair margin.


I guess you used https://www.spotrac.com/nba/washington-wizards/cap/_/year/2025/sort/cap_total or similar source.
They do have the following cap space for Wizards:
Cap Space
$-84,240,538 / 24th

But it's a negative one, like including all the capholds etc.

In reality, with $32M for Poole, $21M for Smart, $6M for Bey, $14M for Kispert and $32M for Rookie scale contracts, they are at $105M.
Cap hold for their FRP will be ~$10M leaving them about $40M in cap space at most.
And it's assuming all free agents are denounced and nothing is owned to Richuan Homes (just because I can't find the guaranteed part of the salary, if there is any).
Bottom line, they aren't a threat for a max salary spot this summer, but if they spend wisely this offseason, next summer (2026) they will have PLENTY of cap space and hopefully a bunch of more experienced rookie salary players to build around.




Hey, thanks for that. I was maybe forgot the negative there.... It's always the negatives I miss. Updated the post to reflect that. :D
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Re: Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards 

Post#22 » by BruttoNostra » Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:27 am

Clav wrote:
BruttoNostra wrote:
Clav wrote:
25-26 Capspace - ~84M, depends on Middleton's opt-in or out by a fair margin.


I guess you used https://www.spotrac.com/nba/washington-wizards/cap/_/year/2025/sort/cap_total or similar source.
They do have the following cap space for Wizards:
Cap Space
$-84,240,538 / 24th

But it's a negative one, like including all the capholds etc.

In reality, with $32M for Poole, $21M for Smart, $6M for Bey, $14M for Kispert and $32M for Rookie scale contracts, they are at $105M.
Cap hold for their FRP will be ~$10M leaving them about $40M in cap space at most.
And it's assuming all free agents are denounced and nothing is owned to Richuan Homes (just because I can't find the guaranteed part of the salary, if there is any).
Bottom line, they aren't a threat for a max salary spot this summer, but if they spend wisely this offseason, next summer (2026) they will have PLENTY of cap space and hopefully a bunch of more experienced rookie salary players to build around.




Hey, thanks for that. I was maybe forgot the negative there.... It's always the negatives I miss. Updated the post to reflect that. :D

Don't get me wrong - it's a great team summary here and I enjoy those threads year after after, team after team. But such a version of cap space is pointless - it's like the worst possible cap space if your GM was bitten by Nico Harrison or that Suns owner. I mean, of course Wizards will denounce some or all of their pending free agents - they won't start the free agency with $34M cap hold for Brogdon, $23M for Ian Mahinmi (!?!?!), $7M for Kendrick Nunn and some minimum cap holds for Ty Lawson, Tomas Satoransky and Shabazz Napier :lol: Actually, seing that list I question the validity of Spotrac data at all. I mean, how Ian Mahinmi is not denounced yet? No way.

Anyway, Clav, thanks again for the thread/s, it's always a great read!
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Re: Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards 

Post#23 » by meekrab » Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:43 am

BruttoNostra wrote:I mean, how Ian Mahinmi is not denounced yet? No way.

Anyway, Clav, thanks again for the thread/s, it's always a great read!

The word is "renounced" and it's because the Wizards haven't been below the salary cap since before they drafted John Wall. :lol: Free agent cap holds stay on your books until you explicitly relinquish the right to sign the player.
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Re: Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards 

Post#24 » by Clav » Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:13 am

BruttoNostra wrote:
Clav wrote:
BruttoNostra wrote:
I guess you used https://www.spotrac.com/nba/washington-wizards/cap/_/year/2025/sort/cap_total or similar source.
They do have the following cap space for Wizards:

But it's a negative one, like including all the capholds etc.

In reality, with $32M for Poole, $21M for Smart, $6M for Bey, $14M for Kispert and $32M for Rookie scale contracts, they are at $105M.
Cap hold for their FRP will be ~$10M leaving them about $40M in cap space at most.
And it's assuming all free agents are denounced and nothing is owned to Richuan Homes (just because I can't find the guaranteed part of the salary, if there is any).
Bottom line, they aren't a threat for a max salary spot this summer, but if they spend wisely this offseason, next summer (2026) they will have PLENTY of cap space and hopefully a bunch of more experienced rookie salary players to build around.




Hey, thanks for that. I was maybe forgot the negative there.... It's always the negatives I miss. Updated the post to reflect that. :D

Don't get me wrong - it's a great team summary here and I enjoy those threads year after after, team after team. But such a version of cap space is pointless - it's like the worst possible cap space if your GM was bitten by Nico Harrison or that Suns owner. I mean, of course Wizards will denounce some or all of their pending free agents - they won't start the free agency with $34M cap hold for Brogdon, $23M for Ian Mahinmi (!?!?!), $7M for Kendrick Nunn and some minimum cap holds for Ty Lawson, Tomas Satoransky and Shabazz Napier :lol: Actually, seing that list I question the validity of Spotrac data at all. I mean, how Ian Mahinmi is not denounced yet? No way.

Anyway, Clav, thanks again for the thread/s, it's always a great read!



I'm no expert myself, definitely focus more on the on-court play than the cap workings, but I really liked the previous end of season threads. The poster Electric Mayhem who did it before sometimes doesnt have the time and I'm holding a banner up to keep it going... because we tend to overlook some teams throughout the year. Just trying my best to put what is on there to get some reflection on each team so I really appreciate corrections.

In terms of the renouncing of other players -- its really funny to see other teams non-renounced list, and players with retained draft rights. Some of the guys are long retired or long in the tooth. Those cap holds are probably not exactly calculated each season, right ? It's some sort of nominal hold over from past contracts ?

Ian Mahinmi was a good player for a hot minute, there's gotta be an explanation here how he's still retained on the hold, but I don't have it lol. cheers my friend
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Re: Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards 

Post#25 » by Chanel Bomber » Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:39 am

Their logo is an atrocity.

Bring back the old Wizard and maybe the curse will be lifted.
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Re: Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards 

Post#26 » by BruttoNostra » Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:14 am

meekrab wrote:
BruttoNostra wrote:I mean, how Ian Mahinmi is not denounced yet? No way.

Anyway, Clav, thanks again for the thread/s, it's always a great read!

The word is "renounced" and it's because the Wizards haven't been below the salary cap since before they drafted John Wall. :lol: Free agent cap holds stay on your books until you explicitly relinquish the right to sign the player.

Thanks. I wouldn't lie, it's not an autocorrect, just forgot the word and didn't check it online :banghead: But I got an excuse - it's my 4th language.

And yea, I know how the cap holds work, just totally surprised they still have one for a player retired 4 or 5 years ago at $23M. And I'm totally shocked they didn't make any free cap space maneuver "since before they drafted John Wall". Wait, not even once? I totally get it for a contender like Denver (and even they have only a bunch of min wage cap holds, including a 45yo Richard Jefferson :lol: ).

It's hilarious for Wizards, especially considering their record ever since. I mean, I can understand not renouncing, say, Brogdon, so you might want to resign him using whatever Bird Rights even without having any cap space. But Ian Mahinmi? He's def not playing again in the league.
So is it for the sake of having another HUGE contract filler in a case of emergency? I mean, they have his Bird Rights, so they might be able to sign him for over the vet minimum even when they are over the cap - up to the max salary.
Theoretically, they can sign him for a 1y max and trade for, say, Podcast P - Philly get salary relief (after 1 year), Was get themselves a bad long contract, but a 25% chance for a healthy contributor.

Nevermind, seems like I just answered myself:)

I still asked ChatGPT:
In the case of the Washington Wizards and Ian Mahinmi, despite Mahinmi's contract expiring after the 2019-2020 season and his subsequent retirement in 2021, reports indicate that the Wizards still have a cap hold for him in the 2024-2025 season, amounting to $23,175,077. ​

The continued presence of Mahinmi's cap hold could be due to several administrative or strategic reasons:​

Administrative Oversight: It's possible that the cap hold remains due to clerical errors or delays in updating the team's financial records.​

Strategic Flexibility: Teams sometimes retain cap holds to maintain certain rights or for potential strategic moves, although in Mahinmi's case, this seems less likely given his retirement.​

It's important to note that while the cap hold appears in financial summaries, it doesn't necessarily mean the team is actively reserving that cap space for Mahinmi. Teams often have multiple cap holds listed, especially for players with whom they had significant contracts. ​

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If the Washington Wizards still have Bird Rights on Ian Mahinmi, they theoretically have the ability to re-sign him for up to the maximum salary, regardless of their current salary cap situation. The Bird Rights allow teams to exceed the salary cap to retain their own free agents.

✅ How Bird Rights Work:
Full Bird Rights (after 3+ years with the team) allow a team to offer:
Up to the maximum salary based on Mahinmi's experience.
Annual raises of 8% of the first-year salary.
Contract length of up to 5 years.
✅ In Mahinmi's Case:
Last Contract: 4 years, $64 million (signed in 2016).
Cap Hold (if unrenounced): Approximately $23.2 million — based on 150% of his last salary.
Maximum Salary Potential:
If Mahinmi were to unretire and play again, the Wizards could, in theory, offer him a contract up to the max salary allowed for a veteran with his experience (likely over $40 million per year, depending on the salary cap).
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Re: Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards 

Post#27 » by BruttoNostra » Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:26 am

Clav wrote:
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Clav wrote:


Hey, thanks for that. I was maybe forgot the negative there.... It's always the negatives I miss. Updated the post to reflect that. :D

Don't get me wrong - it's a great team summary here and I enjoy those threads year after after, team after team. But such a version of cap space is pointless - it's like the worst possible cap space if your GM was bitten by Nico Harrison or that Suns owner. I mean, of course Wizards will denounce some or all of their pending free agents - they won't start the free agency with $34M cap hold for Brogdon, $23M for Ian Mahinmi (!?!?!), $7M for Kendrick Nunn and some minimum cap holds for Ty Lawson, Tomas Satoransky and Shabazz Napier :lol: Actually, seing that list I question the validity of Spotrac data at all. I mean, how Ian Mahinmi is not denounced yet? No way.

Anyway, Clav, thanks again for the thread/s, it's always a great read!



I'm no expert myself, definitely focus more on the on-court play than the cap workings, but I really liked the previous end of season threads. The poster Electric Mayhem who did it before sometimes doesnt have the time and I'm holding a banner up to keep it going... because we tend to overlook some teams throughout the year. Just trying my best to put what is on there to get some reflection on each team so I really appreciate corrections.

In terms of the renouncing of other players -- its really funny to see other teams non-renounced list, and players with retained draft rights. Some of the guys are long retired or long in the tooth. Those cap holds are probably not exactly calculated each season, right ? It's some sort of nominal hold over from past contracts ?

Ian Mahinmi was a good player for a hot minute, there's gotta be an explanation here how he's still retained on the hold, but I don't have it lol. cheers my friend


I just went over all teams cap hold.
Fun fact - the only other non-active player with a bigger cap hold than Ian Mahinmi is Evan Turner with a cap hold of $28M for Minny. Same Bird Rights as well.
I guess I learned a bit more about the cap hold today. Apparently, once you're over the cap (or don't plan to use your cap space for free agents), there is simply no incentive for you to renounce your own free agents, especially those with Bird Rights. Now I want to see some crazy trade with whatever 40+yo retiree being a salary filler.
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Re: Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards 

Post#28 » by yellowknifer » Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:46 am

Jadoogar wrote:They have finally gone down the rebuild path but i still don't see an A level prospect on the team. They need to hit this draft pick out of the park and maybe they'll be able to turn it around. Right now, all they have are supporting players, and not even great supporting players.


Disagree. Sarr could be that. The raw talent is there for sure. He’s flashing now as the season goes on as well. No sure thing, but I would be optimistic if I were a Wizards fan. Big guys with athleticism and length who can also shoot that young are always going to be considered A prospects until proven otherwise. I would say he’s trending up, not down.
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Re: Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards 

Post#29 » by FarBeyondDriven » Tue Mar 25, 2025 9:00 am

Keep, Keep, Expected, Rising

Outstanding job by new Wizards braintrust to ignore draft "experts" and the casuals that regurgitate their takes who were saying the 2024 draft class was one of the weakest in history by taking three first rounders and later trading for a 4th. Now that is zigging while everyone else is zagging. I think Flagg or Bailey would complete the rebuild then they should just focus on letting all the kids develop together. Wizards fans have got to ecstatic that they finally embraced the tank and had the best draft in their history with a chance to add a top 3 talent on top of it
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Re: Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards 

Post#30 » by jasonxxx102 » Tue Mar 25, 2025 12:41 pm

FarBeyondDriven wrote:Keep, Keep, Expected, Rising

Outstanding job by new Wizards braintrust to ignore draft "experts" and the casuals that regurgitate their takes who were saying the 2024 draft class was one of the weakest in history by taking three first rounders and later trading for a 4th. Now that is zigging while everyone else is zagging. I think Flagg or Bailey would complete the rebuild then they should just focus on letting all the kids develop together. Wizards fans have got to ecstatic that they finally embraced the tank and had the best draft in their history with a chance to add a top 3 talent on top of it


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Re: Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards 

Post#31 » by doogie_hauser » Tue Mar 25, 2025 1:25 pm

The Wizards future is a lot brighter than what it was 24/18/12 months ago, they have drafted and developed young talent and got a lot of cap space and draft capital in the process.
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Re: Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards 

Post#32 » by nate33 » Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:27 pm

yellowknifer wrote:
Jadoogar wrote:They have finally gone down the rebuild path but i still don't see an A level prospect on the team. They need to hit this draft pick out of the park and maybe they'll be able to turn it around. Right now, all they have are supporting players, and not even great supporting players.


Disagree. Sarr could be that. The raw talent is there for sure. He’s flashing now as the season goes on as well. No sure thing, but I would be optimistic if I were a Wizards fan. Big guys with athleticism and length who can also shoot that young are always going to be considered A prospects until proven otherwise. I would say he’s trending up, not down.

The best thing about Sarr is that he never seems to get down on himself. He just keeps shooting with confidence even when the shots aren't falling. He may not be all that physically tough, but he is mentally tough and that's something.

His biggest problems are that he has very bad shooting touch around the rim, and he doesn't seem to love contact, which makes him a poor rebounder. I must say, his willingness to generate contact on offense is definitely improving, which gives me hope on the rebounding front. He obviously has to get much stronger in his base, but that's always the case for a young 7-footer. Ultimately, I still see his upside as something similar to Mobley or JJJ, but probably not quite as good as either. Serge Ibaka might be a pretty comparable guy, though Sarr has better 3-point range.

I'm not sure if Serge Ibaka with 3-point range is an "A level prospect" or something slightly below, but it's a guy who can probably start on a championship contender. That's something.
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Re: Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards 

Post#33 » by sp6r=underrated » Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:22 pm

jasonxxx102 wrote:The Wizards were the team I watched the most this year behind the Cavs. They were bad obviously but just so much fun.


I'm not a Poole fan but if you are tanking a player like Poole is essential. At least he is fun to watch despite being terrible.
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Re: Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards 

Post#34 » by jasonxxx102 » Tue Mar 25, 2025 5:23 pm

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jasonxxx102 wrote:The Wizards were the team I watched the most this year behind the Cavs. They were bad obviously but just so much fun.


I'm not a Poole fan but if you are tanking a player like Poole is essential. At least he is fun to watch despite being terrible.


Oh yea Poole sucks but it was fun to watch
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Re: Post Mortem #3 - Washington Wizards 

Post#35 » by doogie_hauser » Wed Mar 26, 2025 12:33 am

Trading for Middleton and Smart and giving Kuzma away at the trade deadline was another big win for the Wizards front office.

They have brought professionalism, hard work and leadership to this very young Wizards team and they have been a lot more competitive/won more games since those deals.

I definitely can see DC rising/improving before the likes of other strugglers Charlotte and Utah etc

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