Portland off-season plan: moves all in/Kings and Suns rebuild

[LightTheBeam]

This trade means Sac will need to go through a 15-20 win season to get a top pick to find a first option. My view is skip that, trade Sabonis for asset that’s a first option.

Who is trading a real 1st option for sabonis lol. Your view is not realistic unfortunately

I agree he probably won’t return a current prime one option. But he can return a prospect or pick that can be the vessel of hope moving forward.

If he trade Sabonis and doesn’t get that type of asset what’s the point? It means the only way Sac will ever get a first option is through the draft sign those guys don’t come in FA and there no player left on the team that can be the center point of a trade for one either.

It would doom the Kings to having to tank hard, and hope. We’ve been there before.

Disagree. This team has never truly tanked. We have sucked, but we never embraced it. It was always trying to take short cuts with Rudy Gay, Rondo, Buddy Hield, Barnes, Sabonis, etc..

A true tank is in order. In the real world we are missing a 1st option + a 2nd option.

Now you get to the real problem. Nobody is taking LaVine, and you aren't winning with him. Which means at minimum a 2 year tank is in order. Good chance you never give ATL a pick if you do this right.

Trade Demar, JV, Sabonis day 1 of the off-season. We should based on current projections pick 12th. You resign Keon to a solid contract to start. Next year you truly truly embrace the tank. Assume you traded Sabonis in this deal for Clingan and 2 1sts. Maybe you get expirings + 2 2nds for Demar. JV you hope to get the 2 2nds back. Draft best forward available.

Clingan/Ayton/Isaac Jones
#12
Keegan
LaVine/Monk
Carter/Keon

That team has a really good chance to secure a top 4 pick which you draft another forward. And then hopefully trade Monk coming off a 22/8 type season for max value. And then maybe that year at the deadline you move LaVine + some of these extra picks you got. 2 years from now you are -

Clingan
Young Star PF
Keegan
Keon/Carter
Young Star PG

+ you've hopefully hit on a 2nd or 2 + 2026 Portland 1st + that #12 pick from this year into a role player, and you have a team full of young players with Keegan, Keon, Carter being the vets. And a real future ahead. Along with all our own picks + 27 spurs + 28 Portland + 31 Minnesota. This is how real teams are built.

[SNPA]

Who is trading a real 1st option for sabonis lol. Your view is not realistic unfortunately

I agree he probably won’t return a current prime one option. But he can return a prospect or pick that can be the vessel of hope moving forward.

If he trade Sabonis and doesn’t get that type of asset what’s the point? It means the only way Sac will ever get a first option is through the draft sign those guys don’t come in FA and there no player left on the team that can be the center point of a trade for one either.

It would doom the Kings to having to tank hard, and hope. We’ve been there before.

Disagree. This team has never truly tanked. We have sucked, but we never embraced it. It was always trying to take short cuts with Rudy Gay, Rondo, Buddy Hield, Barnes, Sabonis, etc..

A true tank is in order. In the real world we are missing a 1st option + a 2nd option.

Now you get to the real problem. Nobody is taking LaVine, and you aren't winning with him. Which means at minimum a 2 year tank is in order. Good chance you never give ATL a pick if you do this right.

Trade Demar, JV, Sabonis day 1 of the off-season. We should based on current projections pick 12th. You resign Keon to a solid contract to start. Next year you truly truly embrace the tank. Assume you traded Sabonis in this deal for Clingan and 2 1sts. Maybe you get expirings + 2 2nds for Demar. JV you hope to get the 2 2nds back. Draft best forward available.

Clingan/Ayton/Isaac Jones
#12
Keegan
LaVine/Monk
Carter/Keon

That team has a really good chance to secure a top 4 pick which you draft another forward. And then hopefully trade Monk coming off a 22/8 type season for max value. And then maybe that year at the deadline you move LaVine + some of these extra picks you got. 2 years from now you are -

Clingan
Young Star PF
Keegan
Keon/Carter
Young Star PG

+ you've hopefully hit on a 2nd or 2 + 2026 Portland 1st + that #12 pick from this year into a role player, and you have a team full of young players with Keegan, Keon, Carter being the vets. And a real future ahead. Along with all our own picks + 27 spurs + 28 Portland + 31 Minnesota. This is how real teams are built.

Vivek won’t tank. But if he did moving Monk early makes more sense. If they are going to tank let LaVine lead and trade Sabonis/Monk to kick it off.

[Case2012]

No reason for PDX to do something so dumb as to trade away all their picks after being stuck without them for the last 4 years for 36 year old KD. They need to trade their vets and build organically through the draft, that's all they need to do and they're doing it... kind of. Just get what you can for the vets or let them walk ef it. It's still mind blowing that Crolshey continued down this 2 timelines utter nonsense, but he did. Take BPA, and hope with more consistent playing time one or 2 of them organically develop into stars. OR trade some asset to CHI for our pick back, which i thought they would have done with the NY pick they got for Hart, but again Crolshey has an iq of 89 tops.

[Myth]

. OR trade some asset to CHI for our pick back, which i thought they would have done with the NY pick they got for Hart, but again Crolshey has an iq of 89 tops.

I’ve questioned if getting pick flexibility back is part of the goal of this current playoff push. It gives us the ability to trade future picks, and makes it so we can swap with the Bucks in 2028 if we are better than them. Blazers obviously aren’t a free agent destination, so conventual wisdom is the draft, but a trade is the other alternative. The only reason to keep the vets we have is to get a missing piece (or 2) that makes us legit, and we would need the picks to make such a splash. I wouldn’t have gone this path myself, but it is a plan of sorts, which is what prompted this thread essentially. Hopefully Cronin has such a move up his sleeve in the next year or 2, because otherwise I’m not a big believer of the path we are currently on.