Coby White has leveled up again?

[WindyCityBorn]

If he keeps getting to the line 8 times a night this can become the norm.

FWIW only 2 players in the NBA currently get to the line 8+ times a game. Giannis and SGA.

Coby doing it now and the refs are giving him superstar calls. I think both can get 6 a game over the course of season.

[WindyCityBorn]

What’s a top pick? If it’s not top 3 it’s not even worth discussing.

Nobody is trading a top 5 pick in this draft for Coby White. I also wouldn't do it from the Bulls side unless it was top 3.

I would easily trade Coby for VJ who almost everyone thinks goes #4.

No thanks. I’m not trading a 25 year that’s balling out of his mind in a sustainable way for a 19 year old that’s nowhere near a can’t miss prospect. Would only trade him for top 3 and even that’s a gamble outside of Flagg.

[Jcool0]

If he keeps getting to the line 8 times a night this can become the norm.

FWIW only 2 players in the NBA currently get to the line 8+ times a game. Giannis and SGA.

Coby doing it now and the refs are giving him superstar calls. I think both can get 6 a game over the course of season.

Slightly bigger group but still only 11 players get 6+ FTA per game (I included Durant who gets 5.9)

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YES

[WindyCityBorn]

FWIW only 2 players in the NBA currently get to the line 8+ times a game. Giannis and SGA.

Coby doing it now and the refs are giving him superstar calls. I think both can get 6 a game over the course of season.

Slightly bigger group but still only 11 players get 6+ FTA per game (I included Durant who gets 5.9)

I think doable as long as refs don’t start swallowing their whistles. Coby in particular is really forcing the issue. And he’s not flopping he’s just overpowering weaker guards. Same for Giddey, but it’s more his size than strength.

[Jcool0]

Coby doing it now and the refs are giving him superstar calls. I think both can get 6 a game over the course of season.

Slightly bigger group but still only 11 players get 6+ FTA per game (I included Durant who gets 5.9)

I think doable as long as refs don’t start swallowing their whistles. Coby in particular is really forcing the issue. And he’s not flopping he’s just overpowering weaker guards. Same for Giddey, but it’s more his size than strength.

For the rest of the year i am sure its doable. Cant see it for a full season.

[WindyCityBorn]

Slightly bigger group but still only 11 players get 6+ FTA per game (I included Durant who gets 5.9)

I think doable as long as refs don’t start swallowing their whistles. Coby in particular is really forcing the issue. And he’s not flopping he’s just overpowering weaker guards. Same for Giddey, but it’s more his size than strength.

For the rest of the year i am sure its doable. Cant see it for a full season.

Why not? Just based on statistics of whose doing now?

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Slightly bigger group but still only 11 players get 6+ FTA per game (I included Durant who gets 5.9)

I think doable as long as refs don’t start swallowing their whistles. Coby in particular is really forcing the issue. And he’s not flopping he’s just overpowering weaker guards. Same for Giddey, but it’s more his size than strength.

For the rest of the year i am sure its doable. Cant see it for a full season.

The change that Coby himself said he made recently is recognizing that it was easier for him to draw fouls and how to do it. He should just have read my posts. I said that he lacked the quickness and length to score inside and that his best chance was to improve his footwork a la Brunson. He's gone more Harden, but that works too. The reality is that focusing his role has made the game much simpler for him...when you get the ball, before you think about passing, see if there is a way for you to score. He's added a bevvy of really nifty moves in the paint to get defenders off balance before shooting...I don't know where those came from, but kudos to him.

[WindyCityBorn]

I think doable as long as refs don’t start swallowing their whistles. Coby in particular is really forcing the issue. And he’s not flopping he’s just overpowering weaker guards. Same for Giddey, but it’s more his size than strength.

For the rest of the year i am sure its doable. Cant see it for a full season.

The change that Coby himself said he made recently is recognizing that it was easier for him to draw fouls and how to do it. He should just have read my posts. I said that he lacked the quickness and length to score inside and that his best chance was to improve his footwork a la Brunson. He's gone more Harden, but that works too. The reality is that focusing his role has made the game much simpler for him...when you get the ball, before you think about passing, see if there is a way for you to score. He's added a bevvy of really nifty moves in the paint to get defenders off balance before shooting...I don't know where those came from, but kudos to him.

Coby has a sick handle now. He has put in a LOT of work on that and it’s paying off. He is making defenders look silly. Oh yeah I see a lot of DeRozan’s craftiness in his game. I think that is where he got it from.

[NecessaryEvil]

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[kodo]

I think doable as long as refs don’t start swallowing their whistles. Coby in particular is really forcing the issue. And he’s not flopping he’s just overpowering weaker guards. Same for Giddey, but it’s more his size than strength.

For the rest of the year i am sure its doable. Cant see it for a full season.

The change that Coby himself said he made recently is recognizing that it was easier for him to draw fouls and how to do it. He should just have read my posts. I said that he lacked the quickness and length to score inside and that his best chance was to improve his footwork a la Brunson. He's gone more Harden, but that works too. The reality is that focusing his role has made the game much simpler for him...when you get the ball, before you think about passing, see if there is a way for you to score. He's added a bevvy of really nifty moves in the paint to get defenders off balance before shooting...I don't know where those came from, but kudos to him.

Also our style has changed post ASG. Coby was getting into the paint all season, but he'd pass out. The one thing I agree with Stacey was that was insane that Coby & Giddey were getting right to the basket and passing up layups and close range shots to pass out to Julian Phillips to brick a 3. Because "shot profile." These days when Coby gets by his main into the paint, he can keep the ball & score the layup and it doesn't matter if Phillips is open or not.

We still fire a ton of 3s, we're 6th in attempts post ASG. But we were 2nd pre-ASG and looked like we wanted to be #1, but we forced up some lower quality 3s instead of taking layups or drawing fouls. Giving up some 3s we went from 30th in FTs to 22nd, that's more than worth it.

[Am2626]

Nobody is trading a top 5 pick in this draft for Coby White. I also wouldn't do it from the Bulls side unless it was top 3.

I would easily trade Coby for VJ who almost everyone thinks goes #4.

No thanks. I’m not trading a 25 year that’s balling out of his mind in a sustainable way for a 19 year old that’s nowhere near a can’t miss prospect. Would only trade him for top 3 and even that’s a gamble outside of Flagg.

If you wouldn’t trade Coby White to get a chance to draft Ace Bailey, VJ Edgecombe, or Dylan Harper you are significantly overvaluing Coby White. Also being confident that Coby White won’t regress is also a gamble.

[FriedRise]

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The behind the back dribble move he did in traffic (0:48 mark) is impressive as hell. He got his defender easily and exploded to the rim.

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The behind the back dribble move he did in traffic (0:48 mark) is impressive as hell. He got his defender easily and exploded to the rim.

That up and under move was impressive too.

[NecessaryEvil]

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Holy f***

Kid is literally unstoppable.

[kodo]

This question is a long way off, but if in 2026 Coby gets a max contract offer from another team are you good with beating it with a hometown max?
Coby will be eligible for the 7 year+ max, not the 6 year max. 30% of the cap, 8% annual raises.

Year 1: $51M
Year 2: $55M
Year 3: $59M
Year 4: $64M
Year 5: $69M

[WindyCityBorn]

I would easily trade Coby for VJ who almost everyone thinks goes #4.

No thanks. I’m not trading a 25 year that’s balling out of his mind in a sustainable way for a 19 year old that’s nowhere near a can’t miss prospect. Would only trade him for top 3 and even that’s a gamble outside of Flagg.

If you wouldn’t trade Coby White to get a chance to draft Ace Bailey, VJ Edgecombe, or Dylan Harper you are significantly overvaluing Coby White. Also being confident that Coby White won’t regress is also a gamble.

Those are just names. They aren’t special like Flagg. I value known quantity over gambling on probable busts.

[NecessaryEvil]

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If you watched Coby tapes from his first few years and compare them to NOW

HOLY HECK, what a difference

I give him so much credit for making the necessary changes to his game

Just astonishing

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The handle, footwork, and more importantly the ability to get the line. I think this current Coby may be the norm...